Interesting Statement, why so hostile? It would be much easier to end this debate with simple bottom line proof. Why does everyone spend so much time yelling from both sides? Why dosen't some one with an offical John E. E.W.M. that has worked for them, get together with some one that feels they have been ripped off and that there machine has not worked and prove your case in front of the whole world. Cursing and spouting angry stories doesn't prove anything or solve this problem. Any takers? anyone want to walk the walk? It's easy either it works or it doesn't.