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Re: The Effects of John E. Machine on Water

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I have been following this thread off and on again for severl years but have never completely formed an opinion one way or the other. Your post makes sense to me. Maybe I am just trying to reconcile the Science that detracts from the claims and all the people who post successful experiences.

It is interesting to me that you found all that research about what happens with the water in the LWM. Actually I am amazed. It seems like it must have taken a long time and some serious research to discover that much information. I have two questions:

1) What drove you to research/discover so much and post if for us?

2) What type of reaction did you have with your well that caused you to have to pump it dry before you could drink it again?

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