Re: !!BEWARE!! Crystal Clear Energized Water machine and John Ellis !! Beware of this machine!! (Energized Water Support Forum) 4/10/2007 843967

Re: !!BEWARE!! Crystal Clear Energized Water machine and John Ellis !! Beware of this machine!!

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That's all fine and well, but there also have not been scientific studies conducted using the water from this machine. It may be that we don't have the instruments yet to directly detect whatever effects this water is supposed to have; I agree that possibility shouldn't be completely discounted. But, it ought to be possible to indirectly observe the effects the water produces, for example through a double-blind test. For my part, I will remain skeptical of the heretofore outrageous claims that are made of this water until I see the results of such a study.

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