You are beig pretty disengenuos dude. You say you "are throwing it in your attic so as to not remember John E." and in the next response you mention that you can not give it up for a token amount because "you want it around to reming you how much you hate John E....yada yada yada.." Sounds to me like you are lacking credibility. I have had water from the machine once and let me tell you.. there is definitely something to it. My friend who is full of wisdom and a highly successful businessman bought 6 of them. Did you ever think that the reason your hot-tub is dirty is because you are just a toxic filthy pig and you are so toxic that you impregnated the water with scum? I can not back up the hot tub thing as I have not tried it. I am not saying the water machine is one way or another. All I am saying is that you are extremely one sided and have no crediblity. Look at your old posts and you will see the way others and I perceive you. If you called me and talked to me in the same way you post inconsistencies... I would just think here is a person of low character and hang up on you.