there is something written somewhere about casting the first stone.
i think this is the wrong place after all to discuss this for we'er only talking about 'real life'.
let's give you an example:
my son and his 'partner' fell into the trap and now have a child (the child top right hand corner).
they lived with her mother (who has a 'corporation house' and lives in that three bedroomed house alone,free). the inevitable happened, so my son rented a private apartment. my son being an apprentice electrician was losing $400 per month even with our help to live there. nearby where they lived were three SOLO mothers not paying a cent for their accommodation.
this month my son came back home to us. his 'partner' returned to her mother.
whilst all this was going on my sons relationship with his partner fell apart (stress).
i don't think i need not tell you what the the outcome of this mess will be.
i do not need people to tell him or me for that matter that 'if you make the bed then you must sleep on it', for that's a cop out mate.
i have already been down that road and your right in what you say,we try to make a 'go of it' (us men that is) but if the women doesn't 'like it' then it's 'hard cheese old boy', tomi.