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Please, I need some serious help. Quantum11 8 y 3,855 † C †
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Please, I need some serious help.
I sent this message to ICU. I am in need of some serious help. This is serious or I wouldn't be here again looking for help. I appreciate all the last responses I received last time I posted here. I thought I had this under control but you'll see by my message to ICU, well, things have gotten really horrible for me. I am now permantely disabled because these parasites are destroying my entire body. I didn't list all the things going on with me. I didn't even post the pictures I have of what these things have done to my lip, my gums, the places on my legs but if anyone would like me to I will, just so you can see how they are destroying my well being over all. I'm so depressed, even to the point of concerned depression. Hi ICU, I posted here a few months ago looking for help. I've done LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of research. I've done what's been suggested to me for my extremely serious battle with parasites. I thought I may have been to the point of calling a truce but I was wrong. I'm almost to the point of giving up and would if ...... I feel like I'm being eaten from the inside out. And now they are coming out. But with a vengeance and they are ruthless and I feel as if I'm consumed by them and it's almost eerie, but becoming one of them. They are taking over, I swear. Do I sound nuts? Everyone in my life thinks I am and even my own partner of 10 years who has not nor will he, take responsibility of opening my eyes to what parasites and candida are, had me research this, supported me up until a few weeks back... well he told me last night I belong in the looney bin. He's totally written me off in the parasite world and suggests I get all the blood tests to find out that maybe it's not parasites. I feel totally alone and isolated. I am so physically ill I feel like I'm dying. They are disfiguring my face now, taking over my nose, ears, gums, teeth, cheeks, throat, beginning to go into my eyes, I'm losing my hair, gaining fat, losing the elasticity of my skin. I have sealed over worm holes and scars on my right thigh, right calf, my butt and now I have a huge open hole in my chin. My throat is literally closing off and my entire inside of mouth is growing over with what I believe egg larvae. I have pulled little white stringy things out of sores in the outside of my nostrils. Then it would bleed, I'd push out white tiny round white things, then more blood would come, then white puss stuff, more eggs, greyish liguid, then there would be nothing, then the hole would clear up, a film grow over it, then it's like nothing was there! Same thing in my gums, cheek, lips, which I had a really bad swolen lower lips, open, with the worst burning pain until I started putting orajel on it to numb the pain. Then I noticed the white worming things scramble out, then the egg looking things, the white pus, then grey liquid, and blood, then nothing! What I've noticed with my chin worm hole is that this one doesn't want to go away, not with peroxide, ivermectin, albenzodole, NOTHING! And I push the eggy things out, but then around the hole it gets all hard and white with more of those egg things. Sorry this is so jumbled up and probably confusing. I'm feeling really dizzy, sick, my chin sore hurts, my ears are ringing, my eyes are cloudy, ears itch , nose itchs, have a lump in my throat. Honestly I want to die and never feel like this ever ever again. Tried to bring it up to my primary and he would have nothing to do with this, even when I brought big worm samples from my diarriah. I'm going to send this now. Please help me and ask more questions you need to know. I can be more specific. Would take forever to type out if I included more details to this. Sorry about my spelling. And my grammer. I don't care right now. Hope to hear from you soon. I have pics if you want.-
Pictures would help us know more information.
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Pictures would help us know more information.
Pictures would help us know more information.-
I will do my best to find them and post. Please b...
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I will do my best to find them and post. Please bare with me. I’m very unwell at this time. Took a lot to type this out and send. I am going to start on this now. Thank you for replying.
I will do my best to find them and post. Please bare with me. I'm very unwell at this time. Took a lot to type this out and send. I am going to start on this now. Thank you for replying. -
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Okay. I did the best I could with uploading pictures. Unfortunately I don’t know this site and how it works. But here is the link and you may have to look around for a couple of them? Do not k ....
Okay. I did the best I could with uploading pictures. Unfortunately I don't know this site and how it works. But here is the link and you may have to look around for a couple of them? Do not know where they may have gone.
//www.curezone.org/ig/f.asp?f=178&p=70
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Get a zapper. And do it for hours on end
Not the...
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Get a zapper. And do it for hours on end Not the 7/20/20 bull shit Also soak in a hot bath with antiparasite oils and herbs. Buy DMSO and antiparasite herbs mix them together and put on your ....
Get a zapper. And do it for hours on end
Not the 7/20/20 bull shit
Also soak in a hot bath with anti parasite oils and herbs. Buy DMSO and anti parasite herbs mix them together and put on your skin where you know the parasites are
Research DMSO FIRST
Also go to a naturopath dr if you can afford they can get you anti parasite meds-
Multi-frequency will work better. each frequency h...
parazapper
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Multi-frequency will work better. each frequency has its own characteristics and affects different things differently.
Multi-frequency will work better. each frequency has its own characteristics and affects different things differently.
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Multi-frequency will work better. each frequency h...
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What have you tried using to kill the parasites? H...
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What have you tried using to kill the parasites? How long did you do the protocol?
What have you tried using to kill the parasites? How long did you do the protocol?View all messages by #204209 on this forum, all forums. -
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This is a reply to # 2,315,389There is a you tube video with a guy that has worms in his face. The chinese doctors treated him with roaches some how to make them come out. I’m not sure what they are, but I would combine albend ....
There is a you tube video with a guy that has worms in his face. The chinese doctors treated him with roaches some how to make them come out. I'm not sure what they are, but I would combine albendazole twice a day for 25 days with 40 grams of fat ivermectin everyday 7 days on 3 days off. Also get a sulfur soap and wash your face with it. Do these meds for three or four treatment rounds. maybe with a 2 week break between. Support your detoxification with lemon water, milk thistle and amino acids. a Bentonite clay mask may also help draw some out.-
I saw the parasite pictures. You are getting so ma...
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This is a reply to # 2,315,443I saw the parasite pictures. You are getting so many parasites out, it’s hard to figure out what you may (or may not) be doing wrong. My guess is that if you keep getting parasites out at this ra ....
I saw the parasite pictures. You are getting so many parasites out, it's hard to figure out what you may (or may not) be doing wrong. My guess is that if you keep getting parasites out at this rate, you should start getting better soon.
You should be rotating the herbs/meds you are using so the parasites don't build up an immunity.
Some things you could do to detox are to take L-orthinine. It is an amino acid that helps detox the parasite waste & die off. coffee enemas also help you detox, and they will expel some parasites too.View all messages by #185729 on this forum, all forums. -
I looked at your picks.The bowel issuelooks like F...
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I looked at your picks.The bowel issuelooks like Flukes. The chin and mouth thing not sure but thinking it may be some kind of myasis.
I looked at your picks.The bowel issuelooks like Flukes. The chin and mouth thing not sure but thinking it may be some kind of myasis.
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Hulda Clark reputation damaging applxperience 11 y 6,589 † C †Hulda Clark reputation damaging
Is there anyone who cares how mentions of Hulda Clark are purposely damaging Hulda Clark image, meaning someone is investing dirty techniques and time to do it.
One example I came across with today:
The Wikipedia page for " Hulda Clark " in Norwegian, shows in its search results a piece of text which is NOT even in the body of the entry (priority is first 200 words of an article, not including the asides or footer) and includes the word "criminal" in it, along with the title of a book which IS NOT EVEN IN NORWEGIAN language!
There's no easier example of manipulated search results and reputation damage.
The cached page that shows in search results is here:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Nok90EBgwxsJ:no.wikipedi...
and this is the normal page:
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulda_Regehr_Clark
Time ago I came across with the Wikipedia page for "Lung Cancer" (or something that serious about smoking, sorry I don't remember exactly) showing "Marlboro" in the search results, and even with its sub-pages and everything!
They told me it was in the "Lede" which nobody has access to, so there's still ways for Wikipedia to be biased (obviously for money)
Burzynski exposed one of them in the last movie, getting paid thousands by labs to write with fake names… I hope someone do the same, and reminding people that the Mars Rovers Curiosity uses a syncrometer to find life inside the rocks in Mars! (they even played the Happy Birthday live with the frequency generator!-
First of all, I would not trust wikipedia any furt...
parazapper
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First of all, I would not trust wikipedia any further than I could throw it. It is a true Orwellian product ( 1984 ) in the the contents are highly manipulated by ’paid’ mob rule. There are numero ....
First of all, I would not trust wikipedia any further than I could throw it. It is a true Orwellian product ( 1984 ) in the the contents are highly manipulated by 'paid' mob rule. There are numerous students, especially law and medical students, who are substantially rewarded for suppressing the truth that 'Big Pharma' does not want to get out.
The rule is that anyone can submit a change to most any topic, but there is an active group of individuals who flag specific topics so that they can review any change. If a change is made that they do not want, then the change will be reversed in minutes, if not in seconds.
If a person goes back and puts their change in again, a different 'watcher' will undo it this time. If you go back and change it a third time, you can be blocked from making further edits to any of the wiki.
This way, they control what is being said on any topic.
If anyone wants to know the truth about Hulda Clark , they should visit http://hulda-clark-quack.com/
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The rule is that anyone can submit a chan...
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[quote] The rule is that anyone can submit a change to most any topic, but there is an active group of individuals who flag specific topics so that they can review any change. If a change is made ....
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The rule is that anyone can submit a change to most any topic, but there is an active group of individuals who flag specific topics so that they can review any change. If a change is made that they do not want, then the change will be reversed in minutes, if not in seconds.
If a person goes back and puts their change in again, a different 'watcher' will undo it this time. If you go back and change it a third time, you can be blocked from making further edits to any of the wiki.
This way, they control what is being said on any topic.
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I won't defend wikipedia because i understand what you denounce.
However, look at what you claim in your forum posts or in your articles and it is easy to understand why what is allowed to be stated as fact must be backed up by some proofs.
Even if the mechanism of how a parasite is killed when using an electrisation device is not known, at least an objective experiment could be made to demonstrate the die off produced and eliminated by the different ways of elimination. Has it ever be done ? No !-
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parazapper
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- it is easy to understand why what is allowed to be stated as fact must be backed up by some proofs. Yes, agreed, but when proof exists, it is still overwritten. Even when they are plainly ....
>- it is easy to understand why what is allowed to be stated as fact must be backed up by some proofs.
Yes, agreed, but when proof exists, it is still overwritten.
Even when they are plainly in error, it is over written
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rife
"Consider this statement: An analysis by Electronics Australia found that a typical 'Rife device' consisted of a nine-volt battery, wiring, a switch, a timer and two short lengths of copper tubing, which delivered an "almost undetectable" current unlikely to penetrate the skin."
Sorry, not a Rife machine, that is a Hulda Clark Zapper. A gross misrepresentation of the truth.
Also, many of their claims are from Stephen Barrett, A highly prejudicial and unreliable source who has lost lawsuits over false claims.
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I think it HAS been done, but never by a recognized institution, because those have sponsors, they are loyal to the medicine school, and there’s always a way to sabotage it. FDA did it with Burzy ....
I think it HAS been done, but never by a recognized institution, because those have sponsors, they are loyal to the medicine school, and there's always a way to sabotage it.
FDA did it with Burzynski's protocol, purposely ignoring dosage recommendations, foretelling is probably just a matter of alterating the ether (orgone?) around so they can't "perceive" anything, astrology providing relocated people or doubtious birth times, etc.
The directions from Burzynski were very easy to follow, and they still broke it.
If you read all the precautions and (obvious for a pathologist) recommendations by Hulda Clark for every protocol, there are SO MANY ways to make a treatment to fail, that I guess it's too easy to think those researches will never be proved.
Everything that requires bio-calibration, or per-patient adjustments, will never work with conventional doctors, because they require a to think, which goes against the 10-minute listening / 1 minute prescribing sponsored meds methodology of current medical doctrine.
I guess that's why there are so many asians :) and so smart.-
An important reason is because the device to track...
applxperience
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An important reason is because the device to track the presence of the pathogens, by resonance, is NOT officially liked and it will always be bitched (while used in military and space programs) ot ....
An important reason is because the device to track the presence of the pathogens, by resonance, is NOT officially liked and it will always be bitched (while used in military and space programs) otherwise it will mean Hulda Clark was right, and people could be CURED, yes, internet scanners, CURED easily, instead of pain managing meds (and of course, it will mean that the Conspiracy was true). -
- The directions from Burzynski
I would like t...
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- The directions from Burzynski I would like to say a work about Burzynski. I met Stan for only a short time while my wife was at his clinic. He is a wonderful caring person who exudes both ....
>- The directions from Burzynski
I would like to say a work about Burzynski.
I met Stan for only a short time while my wife was at his clinic. He is a wonderful caring person who exudes both hope and compassion. The people who work in his clinic were amazing and even the patients there were inspiring. WHile she did not have the type of brain tumors that was normally treated at Burzynski, she did have multiple inoperable brain tumors, they accepted her and did all that they could.
While I know that the treatment likely did help some, it was not enough for my wife who had massively extensive cancer that was inoperable. After having been to a couple of traditional hospitals where she did not accept chemo or radiation, and surgery was not an option, she was told that she has between 2 and 4 weeks at the outside. With the nutritional and supplemental care that she received, she lived almost 4 months and actually started to improve. It was a joy to her to walk down the hospital halls 3 months after her dire prognosis, and to see the doctor's and nurses jaws drop in awe that she was still a survivor, still walking, still talking. A few days later, her traditional doctor changed her pain medication. On the front of her folder in big red letters, "No Acetaminophen". The doctor prescribed "hydrocodone with acetaminophen". She quickly went into liver and kidney failure before it was realized what had happened. She passed in peace in bed at home. I believe that she had cancer ( NSCLC ) for close to 10 to 12 years before she was diagnosed. She would not go to a doctor because they always push chemo which she was strongly against.
Of all the people that she met along her journey, I will say that the Burzynski Clinic held the highest standard and the most uplifting environment and the warmest friendliest associates.
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This is a reply to # 2,123,236Sorry, I accidentally cut? undid? a piece of text. I meant that the same way James Randi smartly sabotages the claimers, for example remote viewres by breaking the ether around them, astrlogers wi ....
Sorry, I accidentally cut? undid? a piece of text. I meant that the same way James Randi smartly sabotages the claimers, for example remote viewres by breaking the ether around them, astrlogers with stuff that only expert ancient astrologers knew would make it fail, etc. (My mom was an astrloger, and I grew up on a home seeing the people breaking in tears because she would tell them exactly the day of the year when something would happen, and it did)
Anyway, proving something which has not been fully understood is really hard, even more when others KNOW how it work and their whole work is to make sure others fail.
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the Mars Rovers Curiosity uses a syncrometer to...
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” the Mars Rovers Curiosity uses a syncrometer to find life inside the rocks in Mars! ” I am *very* interested in this! I went to the Curiosity web sites and could not find anything about th ....
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the Mars Rovers Curiosity uses a syncrometer to find life inside the rocks in Mars!
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I am *very* interested in this! I went to the Curiosity web sites and could not find anything about this. Can you give us a website that describes it, or tell us which of the Rover instruments has a synchrometer inside?
Thanks.
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They just call it something like the ”bio lab” or so. You just have to google ”happy birthday mars rover curiosity” and ”sing” or ”tones” and you’ll find it. I don’t think ANYONE would describe ho ....
They just call it something like the "bio lab" or so. You just have to google "happy birthday mars rover curiosity" and "sing" or "tones" and you'll find it. I don't think ANYONE would describe how that is possible for that and NOT for diagnosing their citizens.
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See this:
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Woman starves to death in spiritual quest to live on sunlight alone
Woman starves to death in spiritual quest to live on sunlight alone
By Daily Mail Reporter
PUBLISHED: 02:39 GMT, 26 April 2012 | UPDATED: 03:18 GMT, 26 April 2012
A woman starved to death after embarking on a spiritual journey which involved giving up food and water and attempting to exist on nothing but sunlight.
The Swiss woman, who was in her fifties, apparently got the idea after watching the documentary film 'In the Beginning, There Was Light' which features an Indian guru who claims to not have eaten anything in 70 years.
The Zurich newspaper Tages-Anzeiger reported Wednesday that the unnamed woman decided to follow the radical fast in 2010
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135324/Woman-starves-death-spiritual...
The paper claimed there have been similar cases of self-starvation in Germany, Britain and Australia.
The prosecutors' office in the Swiss canton of Aargau confirmed Wednesday that the woman died in January 2011 in the town of Wolfhalden in eastern Switzerland.
In 1999, Australian-born Verity Linn, 49, was found dead after attempting a 21-day fast
Spokeswoman Jennifer Rissi says prosecutors haven't opened a criminal investigation over the woman's death.
Followers of the cult Breatharianism believe that the energy they save on digesting food and drink can be transformed into physical, emotional and spiritual energy.
In 1999, Australian-born Verity Linn, 49, was found dead in a remote part of the Scottish Highlands after attempting a 21-day fast.
Excerpts from her diary showed she was refusing to eat or drink in the belief it would 'spiritually cleanse' her body and 'recharge her both physically and mentally'.
In a separate incident a woman died in an Australian hospital after attempting a 21-day fast.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135324/Woman-starves-death-spiritual...
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This is a reply to # 1,933,846People on curezone need to be very careful about what advice they are giving
People on curezone need to be very careful about what advice they are giving.
The advice of some people, may do more harm than good.
A person can come on curezone and ask a few questions. You know very little about their health, or what they already understand.
Some people are recommending severe treatments.
Then people may say they had a bad reaction to the treatment, and the advice is often, do more of this severe treatment.
Be very careful. The other person may not be as healthy as you, and may not understand what you understand.
As for fasting: A safe way to fast is to have a healthy breakfast, and fast the rest of the day. I think it would be wise to recommend inexperienced people not to fast more than 2 days without medical supervision.
Fasting is not the only area where severe treatments, or ineffective treatments, are recommended or being used.
To those reading curezone: There are some sensible people giving good advice on curezone. However, there is also some bad advice on curezone. When you have a public forum, where anyone can give advice, you get all types. Use your own intelligence to find out all you can before believing everything. Inexperienced people should start out with the more gentle methods first.
Another thing to be aware of: There are some who just repeat what they find somewhere else on the internet. They treat this as if it is proof. In some cases, the information they are repeating is bad information. Don't believe everything.
You can often get valuable information from people who have successfully overcome a medical condition.-
”Some people are recommending severe treatments.”
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”Some people are recommending severe treatments.” You mean like ”stop eating for the next 70 years”?
"Some people are recommending severe treatments."
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This is a reply to # 1,934,216Like stop eating for more than 21 days. It may be alright for healthy people with a good understanding of what they are doing. It can kill others. More than one person has complained about harm ....
Like stop eating for more than 21 days. It may be alright for healthy people with a good understanding of what they are doing. It can kill others.
More than one person has complained about harmful effects of the Liver Flush promoted on curezone. There is a safe gentle method using herbs, which is rarely discussed on curezone.
A little while ago I remember reading about a person who had enemas on a regular basis until he stopped having natural bowel movements. Some people use enemas as part of an aggressive detoxification process. But if healthy people have enemas on a long-term basis, it may do more harm than good.
There has been a lot of advice to have Amalgam fillings removed, but the harmful effects of x-rays were rarely mentioned. So people have been having x-rays before having their Amalgam fillings removed.
There seems to be a lot of advice for using inorganic supplements, but not enough advice for using organic things, such as foods and herbs. Organic things are much more beneficial in promoting a genuine improvement in health.
There are some people following the advice on curezone, who are just as sick at the end of treatment, as they were at the beginning.
There is some good advice on curezone, but when you have a forum where anyone can give advice, you get all types of people, and all types of advice.-
that’s why successful testimonials come kinda hand...
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that’s why successful testimonials come kinda handy, don’t you think?
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How do you know you can believe them?
Paranioa...
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How do you know you can believe them? Paranioa Speaking
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This is very sad. The woman was under a spiritual delusion that she became so wrapped up in she could not see clearly. I hope somebody who may be on the same deadly path sees this post and takes heed before it is too late.
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It is really very sad.May god give peace to her soul.
It is really very sad.May god give peace to her soul.
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Be VERY careful when using iodine for candida!!! #89471 10 y 9,806 † C †
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Be VERY careful when using iodine for candida!!!
>In place of turpentine, you can substitute other known products that have an anti-fungal effect, but also have even stronger antibacterial effects – MMS , Bacillus subtilis, hydrogen peroxide, iodine, etc. Each of these will impact the entire ecosystem and create imbalances that may be lifelong. Many of these have wider antimicrobial effects than antibiotics.<
>Antibiotics will wipe out all of the bacteria in the body within a period of 5 to 7 days. Some of the species will never return leading to permanent population shifts that can remain for a lifetime unless corrected. These population shifts can form the foundation for diseases and conditions that follow. Systemic fungal candida is created by the imbalances caused by antibiotics. Without the bacteria present, and the massive shifts within this ecosystem, fungal candida will flourish and subsequently play a role in determining which bacteria re-establish themselves and to what degree that is possible.<
>Choose an approach that doesn’t “kill” [Grizz mentions MELT??]candida. Anything that does will also kill the yeast form and create additional imbalances. Some researchers are now looking at candida’s ability to alkalize the body. Killing candida could lead to increased acidity in the tissues.<
There is no mention of any co supplements in the article. In my opinion, it is doubtful that anything can stop the effects of such a powerful antifungal such as iodine.
http://candidaplan.com/blog/1539/cure-candida/View all messages by #89471 on this forum, all forums.-
a little truth makes a whole lie.
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a little truth makes a whole lie. ” MMS, Bacillus subtilis, hydrogen peroxide, iodine, etc. Each of these will impact the entire ecosystem and create imbalances that may be lifelong. ” that ....
a little truth makes a whole lie.
" Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , Bacillus subtilis, hydrogen peroxide, iodine, etc. Each of these will impact the entire ecosystem and create imbalances that may be lifelong. "
that is garbage. the writer has no clue as to what they are saying.-
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that is garbage. the writer has no clue as to what they are saying. that is garbage. the writer has no clue as to what they are saying. maybe it is, maybe it isnt. One expert on Curezone says ....
>that is garbage. the writer has no clue as to what they are saying.<
maybe it is, maybe it isnt.
One expert on Curezone says it is, and you say it isnt.
Until it gets worked out, I think its a valid concern.View all messages by #89471 on this forum, all forums.-
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Trapper is correct and you are making a big mistake by quoting bad information. Also you are doing your best to badmouth a nutrient vital to human health. Are you on the payroll of Big Pharma ....
Trapper is correct and you are making a big mistake by quoting bad information.
Also you are doing your best to badmouth a nutrient vital to human health. Are you on the payroll of Big Pharma to do this?
Grizz-
interesting accusation.
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interesting accusation.
"Also you are doing your best to badmouth a nutrient vital to human health. Are you on the payroll of Big Pharma to do this?"
Thats funny. I havent badmouthed anything. As a matter of fact, I've said repeatedly how important Iodine is and that I myself use it.
The information that I used came from Dr Jeffs blog. Dr Jeff is someone that you refer to in your documents. Are you saying that SOME of his information is right, and SOME of it isnt?
Who determines that? You?
Its mind boggling that you guys are getting upset that I am posting a potential warning for others.
You know better than to try to refer to me as a pharma shill. All one has to do is look back thru my posts to see that I am anything but that.
You blast everyone else for accusing you of being on trappers payroll, why is it ok for YOU to accuse me of being on anyone elses?
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”I havent badmouthed anything”
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”I havent badmouthed anything” appearances mean nothing. what are you producing here? confusion and contention. great job!
"I havent badmouthed anything"
appearances mean nothing. what are you producing here? confusion and contention.
great job!
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This is a reply to # 2,202,830Re: Be VERY careful when using iodine for candida!!!
grizz this information came from dr.jeff, someone you've praised as one of the only people that talk sense about candida? so what is it, is he wrong now or are you?-
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This is a reply to # 2,202,973Dr. Jeff has an effective Candida program that I support. However, if you want an expert opinion on iodine you need to read Doctors Abraham, Brownstein, Cousens, Flechas, Derry, Davis, & Ten ....
Dr. Jeff has an effective Candida program that I support. However, if you want an expert opinion on Iodine you need to read Doctors Abraham, Brownstein, Cousens, Flechas, Derry, Davis, & Tenpenny. These trained doctors would not agree with what Dr McCombs says about iodine.
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This is a reply to # 2,203,032Dear Grizz, why don’t You talk to Dr. Eric Bakker instead of putting vain hope on Dr. McCombs? I feel the Dr. Bakker is a very good person, he is definitely a very highly qualified doctor who used ....
Dear Grizz, why don't You talk to Dr. Eric Bakker instead of putting vain hope on Dr. McCombs? I feel the Dr. Bakker is a very good person, he is definitely a very highly qualified doctor who used to use Iodine against Candida with success and he is also on Curezone. The reason he doesn't use Iodine for Candidiasis anymore is that he found its use somewhat bothersome compared to other treatment methods he had later discovered and the reason for this, I suppose, is that his knowledge of Iodine is somewhat limited. But he seems to me a open-minded, humble person with whom it's definitely worth getting in contact with.
God bless You, Grizz, for what You've done and are constantly doing for peoples' health and life!!!
Laszlo,
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Laszo, Thank you for the heads up. I agree that he is excellent, and I have referenced his website here in Candida References.
Laszo,
Thank you for the heads up. I agree that he is excellent, and I have referenced his website here in Candida References.
http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Candida
Where is he on the curezone? I looked him up on the curezone index, and he is not listed. Do you have a link to him on the curezone? I will look him up,
Grizz- Here is he, bro: http://curezone.us/forums/s.asp?... Theonius 10 y 8,084
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And here’s his take on iodine:
http://curezone.us...
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Need some clarification/Does MMS destroy good bact... UserX 15 y 22,337 † C †
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Need some clarification/Does MMS destroy good bacteria?
Hi everyone. Can someone tell me for a fact if the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement destroys good bacteria in the gut? I just ordered Jim Humble's book and have not read anything but the first part of it that you can download off the website yet. I've been taking about 15 drops of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement a day for over 2 weeks now. 10 drops in the evening and 5 in the morning with a lime juice activator--1drop Miracle-Mineral-Supplement to 5 lime juice as directed for regular usage. Been doing this to help get rid of a digestive tract yeast infection. Also cleaned out my body by using the colon and Liver Flushing protocols. So the yeast is the last and nastiest thing to exit my body since I've been doing these programs for 19 months. I've been taking the probiotics for 9 months, and am still continuing them until the yeast is gone. Also can someone tell me if I should be taking the MMS away from food and for how long before or after a meal to wait. Thanks lots.View all messages by UserX on this forum, all forums.-
Hello Pioneer,
Jim Humble claims that chlorine ...
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Hello Pioneer, Jim Humble claims that chlorine dioxide doesn’t destroy all bacteria. However, he has never been able to prove this, and all of my testing, and the testing done in industry, ind ....
Hello Pioneer,
Jim Humble claims that chlorine dioxide doesn't destroy all bacteria. However, he has never been able to prove this, and all of my testing, and the testing done in industry, indicates that it kills all bacteria. The key is that you need a certain concentration of chlorine dioxide in contact with the bacteria for a certain amount of time.
It is true that different strains of bacteria are killed off by different concentrations of chlorine dioxide, but that hardly makes it "selective."
Tom-
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This is a reply to # 1,411,112Yeah, I see your point about having to be in contact with the bad bacteria at a certain concentration for a certain length of time. I’ve been trying to get the anerobic yeast in my body with it. ....
Yeah, I see your point about having to be in contact with the bad bacteria at a certain concentration for a certain length of time. I've been trying to get the anerobic yeast in my body with it. This stuff went thru my whole system. It is some better now and I keep flusing the dead yeast out of my liver. Been doing 15 gtts of the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement a day. I worked up to this dosage over about a week. Now that I look back, I see I've been doing the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for about 3 weeks. I'm seeing a reduction in symptoms and also the rash. This got quite a hold on me a few years ago and went systemic. Am not familiar with dosages as I just ordered the book by Jim Humble. Is this one month on and one month off? Sorry to be so ignorant about what I'm doing right now. Appreciate the help. Keep in mind that I have been doing the Liver Flushes for 18 months, now, and also have cleaned out my colon and been doing the probiotics for going on 9 months now, some with the iflora FOS in them to re-seed the colon and help the good bacteria seat itself. I'm also doing the Schulze Detox tea to drive this out and then flush the liver of it. Thanks again.View all messages by UserX on this forum, all forums.-
Hello Pioneer,
I have a little different approa...
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Hello Pioneer, I have a little different approach to all of this, so since you asked I will point you in a slightly different direction. I happen to think that the MMS protocol is flawed. P ....
Hello Pioneer,
I have a little different approach to all of this, so since you asked I will point you in a slightly different direction.
I happen to think that the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement protocol is flawed. People experience adverse effects while following it, and Jim Humble has not been able to provide any test results to substantiate it. A few people have notice various improvements, but most people don't follow the current protocol.
It seems that a little chlorine dioxide goes a long way, and a lot more just quickly passes through. With this in mind, and looking at the industrial use of chlorine dioxide, I have been suggesting that lower doses may be more effective than following the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement protocol.
First of all, do you have any way to test to see improvement in your condition?
Since you are trying to target a specific area for a specific condition, you may want to consider adding 1 drop of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement to 1 liter of water. Sip on this throughout the day, and when you finish the liter, mix up another one and sip on it the same way.
The Science behind this is that you are targeting the intestine area. Drinking the unactivated solution will present it to your stomach where the stomach acid will activate it. This brings it much closer to the target area then drinking an activated solution.
I also know that chlorine dioxide reacts with minerals in your body, so I don't believe it is a good idea to go for extended periods taking it. Anti oxidants, some minerals, and probiotics inactivate chlorine dioxide, so it is best not to take them during the time you take your chlorine dioxide solution. Some people take their vitamins, minerals, anti oxidants, and probiotics during the week, then trade off and take the chlorine dioxide solution during the week end. This seems to be a decent cycle, but more testing is needed to optimize it.
You will have to work out what works best for you, but I don't think the high doses used in the MMS protocol are necessary.
Tom-
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This is a reply to # 1,411,512Do I have a way to test to see if I am seeing improvement in the condition or not. Actually, the only one I need is what the muchous membranes look and feel like with the intense itching and skin ....
Do I have a way to test to see if I am seeing improvement in the condition or not. Actually, the only one I need is what the muchous membranes look and feel like with the intense itching and skin peeling. The mouth and external part at the end of my digestive system. This has improved since I have started taking the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . I've taken it twice a day--my big dosage of 10 gtts at night pre bedtime. Otherwise, if I miss the dose, the itching and skin peeling gets worse. I have been taking biotin to stop the proliferation of the yeast and the precurser to vitamin B5--pantethine--to stop the acetaldehyde effects in my body from the end point product of the yeast die-off. It really doesn't make any perceptible difference now in how I feel whether or not I take the pantethine. Both are against my better judgment because they are synthetic vitamins, but I am not taking them as vitamins, per se. Comfort-wise, I am not sure I can go a whole week off the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and take the other stuff during the week-end. The symptoms worsen in just a day without the mms. It's possible that this is also chemicals still coming out of my body from the cleansing programs. Very uncomfortable. AND very difficult to live with.
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This is a reply to # 1,411,512I am new to this but your suggestion to allow the acids in the stomach to activate the MMS instead of pre-activation with Citric Acid raised a question. On the MMSforlife website he states, upon ....
I am new to this but your suggestion to allow the acids in the stomach to activate the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement instead of pre-activation with citric acid raised a question.
On the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement forlife website he states, upon activation a small amount of chlorous acid (HClO2) is first produced. I understand that this is a strong acid and releasing it prior to consumption is the reason for the 3 min. wait before ingesting the Clorine dioxide. Am I off track?-
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This is a reply to # 2,235,164Hello Lou, We know a lot more now than we did 6 years ago when this thread started. We know that chlorine dioxide works great on topical applications but it appears that the chlorite ion is ....
Hello Lou,
We know a lot more now than we did 6 years ago when this thread started.
We know that chlorine dioxide works great on topical applications but it appears that the chlorite ion is more effective inside the body. This raises the question of how to get chlorite in the body most effectively.
The drugs NP001 and WF10 are designed for inter venous use and that seems to be a very effective way to get chlorite into the body. Oral use of sodium chlorite can work, but the solution needs to be properly activated prior to ingestion. When you add an acid to sodium chlorite you form chlorous acid. The strength of the chlorous acid is related to its pH.
If you generate chlorine dioxide during the activation, you are wasting chlorite. This means that you need to take far more chemicals than are needed when using proper activation.
Testing has revealed that once you determine your mg chlorite per kg body weight target you can add the correct amount of sodium chlorite to water, adjust the pH to 5.5, and let it activate at room temperature for 24 - 48 hours. This weak chlorous acid solution has very little reaction to stomach acid so the chlorite passes through and is available to the body for use.
Tom
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I have been conducting tests with sodium chlorite\...
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I have been conducting tests with sodium chlorite\citric acid combination, and observing the effects on microbes. This is the MMS chemical. The results are very promising. It tends to kill the lar ....
I have been conducting tests with sodium chlorite\ citric acid combination, and observing the effects on microbes. This is the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement chemical. The results are very promising. It tends to kill the larger forms like single-celled microbes quickly, and has a slower effect on smaller microbes. Many microbes immediately start making biofilms, but they degrade with time.
It seems like the chemical has a time-release quality to it.
I would not use the concentrations being recommended by the "Humble method". Silverfox at the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement forum has better knowledge of protocols. Shroom-
What kind of microbes are you testing it on?
Perh...
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What kind of microbes are you testing it on? Perhaps you could try and confirm whether MMS kills all bacteria or just the baddies as Jim Humble claims. I think we all assume he’s wrong about tha ....
What kind of microbes are you testing it on?
Perhaps you could try and confirm whether Miracle-Mineral-Supplement kills all bacteria or just the baddies as Jim Humble claims.
I think we all assume he's wrong about that now though-
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In the body it isn’t going to be concentrated. Just trace amounts. Apples and oranges.
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Enough! seb3 10 y 6,630 † C †Enough!
People who are suffering from a serious systemic infection will have searched not only this board, but also the candida Diet Forum and just about every other message board and scientific article connected with candida. They will have read through every success story and spent hours scrolling through the archives. Therefore, jumping in on every single conversation, hammering away day-after-day about Iodine is getting really old. To post about a cure every day, seven days a week, is overkill, smacks of advertising, is misleading and kills other serious discussion—we get the message: Grizz thinks Iodine is great! Got it! Newbies who are sick can scroll through and find it, so ENOUGH ALREADY!!!-
seb3,
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Are you cured yet?
You first logged into this forum about 2 years ago.
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This is a reply to # 2,201,970Please don’t change the topic--next thing you’ll be talking about iodine yet again. If you wish to respond to this thread then kindly inform us why you find it necessary to hijack every conversati ....
Please don't change the topic--next thing you'll be talking about Iodine yet again. If you wish to respond to this thread then kindly inform us why you find it necessary to hijack every conversation with the same advice every single day. Maybe Iodine is indeed the answer, but you have made yourself clear. No need to go on and on and on--it's in the archives and anyone interested will find it there. If you wish to refresh people's memories post again in a couple of months--but repeating yourself every day as you do is not only unnecessary, but also a nuisance.-
Seb,
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This is a reply to # 2,201,971Seb, We all know what the HUGE problem is with Candida. I asked if you are cured or not because people have been spinning their wheels for YEARS without a cure. They have been Treating the p ....
Seb,
We all know what the HUGE problem is with Candida.
I asked if you are cured or not because people have been spinning their wheels for YEARS without a cure. They have been Treating the problem over and over again, but the candida keeps coming back... Why is this? because everyone is treating the symptoms but NOT curing the underlying problem.
I am dedicating my life to actually curing Candida long term, not just treating symptoms.
I am 100% on topic at all times. I am here to help everyone with Candida. The topic is curing Candida long term.
This means boosting our immune system. It is our immune system that cures Candida long term, NOT drugs that are being peddled by a few hucksters around here.
Now please tell us what your symptoms you are suffering so we can help you.
WE means everyone here at this forum, including myself.
Also study the Candida References file and you will see that I include all known treatments for Candida. Do you have any suggestion to improve this file?
http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Candida
PS) I am here to stay until the leaders of this forum begin supporting the immune system for permanent cures,
Grizz
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Grizz dont listen to seb3, keep on keeping on!
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Grizz dont listen to seb3, keep on keeping on!
Grizz dont listen to seb3, keep on keeping on!-
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Interesting reply
Are you on this forum because you have a candida issue and looking for answers.
Or are you masquerading as someone with a candida issue so you can support your buddy Grizz?
You've only been here a week, seb3 has been around for years and has a concern that is causing him/her stress.
And your answer is to create animosity and make it worse.
Good job.
View all messages by #89471 on this forum, all forums.-
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This is a reply to # 2,201,980My only reason for the response is I like Grizzs passion. Im doing a very detailed log with pictures as I go along. I want to share my experience good and bad with everyone. I dont hold any inter ....
My only reason for the response is I like Grizzs passion. Im doing a very detailed log with pictures as I go along. I want to share my experience good and bad with everyone. I dont hold any interest either way. but the reality is I wouldn't have heard of the Iodine treatment if not for grizz being active. Unfourtunately for Grizz my protocol has many different solutions that people on this forum have used. So if it helps it will be impossible to tell exactly what helped it.
I'm really trying to normalize my life for me, my family and my career. Im the first one to be cynical on anything but the reality is grizz isn't hawking anything and doeskin have any personal interest in Iodine sales.
I would question most people on this forum who randomly slam iodine. Its not a drug, guess what Ive taken Iodine and I didn't die!! wow! Think about all the crap people are putting in their bodies every day, pharmaceuticals processed foods and people are acting like iodine is going to kill you. Its a supplement that needs to measured and monitored carefully. And like I said earlier, I grew up with my grandparents taking it for EVERYTHING. They had bottles scattered all over the house.
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This is a reply to # 2,201,997The leaders on this forum should be focusing on the best ways to cure the immune system, instead of just treating symptoms. The perfect example is Vitamin D3, which is not a vitamin at all. It ....
The leaders on this forum should be focusing on the best ways to cure the immune system, instead of just treating symptoms.
The perfect example is Vitamin D3, which is not a vitamin at all. It is actually a Hormone that substantially boosts the immune system by up to 500%
Here is the D3 deficiency symptom list:
http://www.solar-facts-and-advice.com/vitamin-d-and-diseases.html
What would you rather do? Treat each of those diseases with a drug or take Vitamin D3 and cure them all.
This is a shining example of D3 in action:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2200914
D3 was my 1st MAJOR success against DECADES of absolutely TERRIBLE chest colds every winter, a Candida Symptom.
Yes, D3 was my 1st victory over DECADES of suffering Candida!
"Cold-like symptoms - excessive mucus in the sinuses, nose, throat, bronchial tubes and lungs."
http://foodmatters.tv/articles-1/how-to-overcome-candida-naturally
Best to you,
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Hey, thats all well and good.
But seb3 didnt say ...
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This is a reply to # 2,201,997Hey, thats all well and good. But seb3 didnt say anything bad about iodine, as a matter of fact he said for all he knows it might help. Nobody is ’slamming’ iodine. He’s just tired of every thr ....
Hey, thats all well and good.
But seb3 didnt say anything bad about iodine, as a matter of fact he said for all he knows it might help.
Nobody is 'slamming' iodine.
He's just tired of every thread being hijacked by a post about iodine.
Grizz is what is known as a threadkill.
His posts actually have the opposite effect and discourage discussion beyond iodine.
And that's unfortunate, because many here obviously dont feel that Iodine is the solution.
Even YOU dont know if Iodine is the cure.
Even Grizz admitted that he wasnt even sure if candida is what caused his asthma.
So what is all of this discussion about?
Candida? or iodine?
Many people come to curezone to discuss topics with other people. Thats the whole idea behind most forums.
To discuss things.
And until Iodine is definitively recognized as a cure, then EVERYTHING should be out in the open.
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The Iodine battle.! dvjorge 10 y 9,632 † C †
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The Iodine battle.!
I want to write it for all the candida sufferers who looks for help in this board. For many years, this forum has been leader supporting those suffering candida related complex. The archives are full of excellent information about what candida sufferers need to do to overcome this syndrome. However, you have to be very selective picking the right information. Unfortunately, this has became a battleground about Iodine since this person, Grizz don't lose any chance to reply any new candida related post pushing Iodine. In my view, there is a hidden agenda with all this or this person needs medical assistance about his/her personal obsessive disorder.
He is pasting a link of his own place every time he posts something to re-direct people to another website that eventually will have a business orientation, at least this is my opinion. I can not think any other way, sorry.
Anyway, this isn't the most important, if not that the real focus of this board is totally lost and this forum isn't offering the resources candida sufferers need and are looking for when they join it.
By the time it cools of, it will happen soon or later, I advice those new suffering candidiasis to check the archives and to ignore the amount of non-sense that has invaded this forum lately. I suffered too much when I got sick with this syndrome and owe all the garbage I read in the Internet all the time I lost following wrong advice. This forum isn't about candidiasis anymore, at least for now.
Good luck to all.!
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This is a reply to # 2,202,143Jorge, You and I have exactly the same goals. To cure Candida. The root cause of Candida is a crippled immune system. The immune system is crippled in several ways. 1) The Good Flora in the ....
Jorge,
You and I have exactly the same goals. To cure Candida.
The root cause of Candida is a crippled immune system. The immune system is crippled in several ways.
1) The Good Flora in the gut is wiped out, which contains nearly 80% of the immune system.
2) our remaining immune system is in shambles because of severe Iodine & Vitmin D3 deficiency epidemics.
3) Poor diet contributes to immune problems.
4) So does lack of sleep & exercise.
We can work together to cure Candida.
I like this example:
Vitamin D3 Deficiency diseases:
http://www.solar-facts-and-advice.com/vitamin-d-and-diseases.html
Would you rather treat every symptom or would you rather correct the immune deficiency with Vitamin D3?
Same story with iodine.
You be the judge. Treat symptoms or treat the source.
Believe me when I say that I have nothing to sell, and no commercial interests. I am here to help people get cured permanently.
I suggest that you study the testimonials that I have collected.
http://tinyurl.com/iodine-testimonials
Also study the Candida References I have put together.
http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Candida
Do you have any suggestions for this document?
When we work together, we ALL win.
Best to all,
Grizz
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Grizz I understand your argument that boosting the immune system is very important when it comes to curing candida. I agree with this. But your insistence with iodine as the solution is a narr ....
Grizz
I understand your argument that boosting the immune system is very important when it comes to curing candida. I agree with this. But your insistence with Iodine as the solution is a narrow minded view. I'm sure Iodine can help with candida as per your testimonials, but when it comes to beating candida you must take a multi faceted a approach and target the candida colonies at there source in order to truly be cured. A lot of supplements can be almost useless if u don't get the candida under control in the intestine. This is due to the huge amount of toxins being released by the candida and the poor absorption issues that follow. Candida might cause low Iodine levels. But simply taking iodine just addresses this problem, not the root cause of the iodine defeciency, which is candida.
That is why I agree with Jorge. Antifungal retention enemas are very important to curing candida. It's the only way to target and remove the large colonies that live in your intestines. Nystatin works the best. While I feel this is the most important part of any anti candida protocol, it isn't the only thing you must do. Probiotics are Also very important. As are immune boosting supplements you suggest Grizz. Vit c .glutathione. l glutamine + Slippery elm ( to heal the intestinal lining). Etc.
I don't understand this argument that iodine is better then nystatin enemas In fighting vs candida. You have to do both. You shouldn't waste your time trying to discredit Jorge, as he trying to help people with very useful info. I want other people to know about nystatin enemas to so they can incorporate it with whatever else they are doing and get rid of candida once and for all. That is the entire point of this forum. Helping people who suffer from illness and have found no answers from their Dr's.-
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This is a reply to # 2,202,181Grizz—I have my doubts about you ”dedicating your life” to curing candida but my skepticism is not really important here so let’s just assume that it is true. You must, however, still see that you ....
Grizz—I have my doubts about you "dedicating your life" to curing candida but my skepticism is not really important here so let's just assume that it is true. You must, however, still see that your behavior runs contrary to what is considered polite and sensitive on any internet forum. Imagine a discussion where one participant interrupts the flow of ideas again and again with his own opinion; an opinion moreover, which never changes—a participant who repeats himself ad nauseam until other contributors with valuable opinions are silenced. You say that you "are here to stay until the leaders of this forum begin supporting the immune system for permanent cure." Surely you can see that this kind of statement is counterproductive. Basically you are saying that you intend to continue hijacking every post until everyone agrees with you—that is not democratic and totally opposes the spirit of mature, rational discussion. We all understand that the immune system is a key component in wellness but many of us are seeking therapies which complement the ones you harp on about. You also use the third person pronoun a great deal: "tell us what your symptoms you are suffering so we can help you." You go on to explain that "WE means everyone here at this forum." A great many people have made it clear that they find your posts intrusive and unnecessary, so please don't presume to speak for everyone at the forum—you are NOT our spokesman. Grizz—your input is valuable, but please use a little discretion, sensitivity and consideration.-
Very well said, Seb3.
Not only that, he also use...
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This is a reply to # 2,202,191Very well said, Seb3. Not only that, he also uses my personal posts and my name constantly. He mentions ”my protocol” when I have never claimed any protocol. He has questioned if I have double n ....
Very well said, Seb3.
Not only that, he also uses my personal posts and my name constantly. He mentions "my protocol" when I have never claimed any protocol. He has questioned if I have double nickname or use more than one account to claim cures or whatever. This is intolerable and offensive. In fact, he has done enough to become this forum in one of those people don't want to visit. Since this Iodine nightmare, it is rare to see new members posting about candidiasis.
This isn't the first time he does it. In the past, he also did it for a while until he left.
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This is a reply to # 2,202,191There is one thing you guys should understand. I continue participating in this board because it has became an habit for me to review it every day. I have been doing it almost every day since 2008 ....
There is one thing you guys should understand. I continue participating in this board because it has became an habit for me to review it every day. I have been doing it almost every day since 2008. I have acquired knowledge because I have read thousands of stories about candida. Think about that, from 2008 until today almost every single day dedicating at least 1 hour to the forums. Anybody who does it get knowledge and experience. I am pretty sure any of you could have been more documented than me in my position. I have also bought and read all the candida books I have found. No to tell about more than 300 medical studies I have archived during these years. So, it isn't me who are more intelligent than anybody here. I even have the inconvenient that English isn't my language. I learned some of it late in my life. I have some knowledge because my dedicated time to this topic but it doesn't mean I know all or I own a cure of anything. I do it to help people and because it is part of my routine.
Jorge-
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Jorge, You are doing an amazing job at this forum. And I have said this before as well. I have read many of your research reports, and I have also quoted your most important messages in Candida ....
Jorge,
You are doing an amazing job at this forum. And I have said this before as well. I have read many of your research reports, and I have also quoted your most important messages in Candida References so they don't get lost in the message pile.
See Candida References where I have documented your nystatin/enema cure:
http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Candida
We all agree that more than one protocol is required to wipe out Candida. And as you can see in Candida References I have them all documented. Is there any important topics missing? I am taking suggestions.
So once again, we need not fight against each other. We can work as a team.
Grizz -
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This is a reply to # 2,202,199do you have an ’essential bullet point’ list about candida and how to deal with it. you have done well. i have spent all day since 2004 on curezone. at one time i had read all of barefoots fo ....
do you have an 'essential bullet point' list about candida and how to deal with it.
you have done well. i have spent all day since 2004 on curezone. at one time i had read all of barefoots forum. read most of the Colloidal Silver forum, helped build the oil pulling forum and the partnered in the Iodine forum.
ive read most of this and done most of it. i know what works and what doesnt, whats a scam and whats not, many of the hows and whys and tricks and tips and on and on. i dont agree with most people on here, including barefoot. i love the natural people and adore uniquity. but i am a practical person and use whats available and what works. and i try to keep it cheap for those of us just getting by. lots of DIY, which is why i use relatively harmless materials and means.
but you know, getting people to do something is totally up to them. the only people i have ever helped are those who did what i said. imagine that.
i dont have charts or studies or graphs about what i know. i just have the knowledge and give it for free. take it or leave it.
so, jorge, i understand. its a passion. its a mission. its a hobby. we do what we like to do and sooner or later we get good at it.
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Very well said.
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Seb, Very well said. And we can all work together on our common goal.. eradicate Candida. Grizz
Seb,
Very well said.
And we can all work together on our common goal.. eradicate Candida.
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Very well said again.
We all contribute our be...
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He can not discredit me in any way. I have left my... dvjorge 10 y 9,428-
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Sorry Jorge, I have NEVER promoted honey.
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This waterspout image was taken earlier this month near Tampa Bay, Florida. The Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Florida is arguably the most active area in the world for waterspouts, with hundreds forming each year.
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Ionic detoxification foot bath scam explained by a manufacturer
I recently saw my wife and several friends get duped about supposed benefits of an Ionic Detoxification Unit. Don't get suckered into buying or paying for a session in an ionic detoxifcation foot bath! Guess what, the water turns "toxic" colors whether your feet are in there or not, because it is just the corrosion of the electrodes that causes the water to change color. The manufacturer below says that "sales pitches" are used to make people think that different colors mean different toxins were ionically removed from the body through the soles of the feet; in reality it is just the results of passing an electic current between electrodes in a conductive solution of water. Their own studies (backed by other independent fraud investigation analyses) find only what you would expect to find in water where electrolysis took place, ie, no "toxins" released from the body were found.
Think about it, how likely are your feet to start "leaking toxins", if that happened then you'd find that happening in whirlpool spas etc. It doesn't happen.
Those of you who are selling these or selling sessions in them should at a minumum stop charging for the sessions since they are worthless and you do not want to ripoff your clients do you? Hopefully you can get a refund from whomever sold it to you since they misrepresented it. Those of you who sold them should encourage your customers to return them and then return the units to the manufacturers. Don't sell them based on anecdotal evidence alone, and don't be part of the scam! If you're selling them based on anecdotal evidence then try running the unit with no one in it to verify what the manufacturer says below, and stop using that sales pitch.
Here's what a manufacturer says about them:
There are several 'Detox' systems based around Foot Spas on the market today. Some manufacturers and retailers of such products make claims of purification and Detoxification that attract a lot of people. At beauty and health equipment exhibitions there are numerous stands that offer this kind of therapy and many visitors volunteer to give it a try.
But how effective is it really and how does it actually work? Is the fact that the water changes colour really proof that the Spa is detoxifying the body? Dr. Mary Staggs Ph.D. D.N. F.B.I.H., of the Mary Staggs clinic in Estepona, Southern Spain, is interviewed by R. B. Research.
Dr Staggs, we understand you were the first person to bring the concept of Ionic Foot Spa Detox systems into Europe?
Yes, back in 2001, I heard about Ionic Foot Spa's from both Dr Corey in Florida and Dr Morney in Denver Colorado. They had been working on the technique for some time before I was introduced to it. I found it fitted directly in with my research so I became involved in order to develop it further and decided to bring the concept to Europe.
What does the system consist off?
It's a Footbath into which we introduce an array. This is coupled to a power unit, which generates a low voltage electrical current - with both positive and negative polarities - which, due to the conductivity of saline water, work together to produce the desired effect.
Why did you become interested in 'Ionic Foot Spa Detox' systems?
Since it seemed this was a type of natural Detox process, I thought it would fit nicely alongside other therapies that I was using in the field of nutrition. The basic principle of the treatment was electrolysis and electro dialysis. But what caught my attention most early on was how the water, that the feet were submersed in, changed colour.
Some manufacturers claim that these colours correspond to specific body fluids, like cholesterol, uric acid, bile, blood, and even certain types of fats. What do you think of these claims?
Such claims are no more than a 'sales pitch'. From the early stages of development it was suggested that certain colours corresponded to certain types of organ drainage from the kidneys, liver, intestines and so on. But when we started our investigations, within the parameters of biochemistry, we found only Iron Sulphate in the water. We could not show the presence of Albumin or any other type of liquid, any kind of increment of sodium or potassium, urea, bilirubin transaminates, Sugar and so on.
So why does the water change colour?
There are many factors that come into play. But basically we are talking about electrolysis.
Please explain.
In order to produce electrolysis, we need an ionised solution to close the electric circuit between two electrodes. These electrodes, when connected to a source of continuous currents are submerged in a carrier solution - one charge is positive (anode) and the other negative (cathode).
This action produces ionisation. The positive ions within the solution will move towards the cathode and negative ones towards the anode. The word electrolysis means to rupture, separate, by means of electricity, through galvanic current. The water that is used has its own impurities that, due to the electrolysis, are drawn towards or separated from other components. The consequent ionisation in the water results in the formation of solids that are deposited on the floor of the container and that float on the surface of the water. Bubbles also appear and at the same time the water changes colour. We must also remember that the arrays are metallic and release waste, which in turn results in an electrolytic reaction causing corrosion. Another influencing matter is what we introduce into the water, eg. our feet. These have their own properties such as acidity or alkalinity. The skin can also contain remnants of soap, creams, nail varnish, pollutants and dyes from shoes, including shoe polish, bacteria, fungi and fibres. There might also be a release of substances from the sebaceous glands and dead cells. All these factors combined will influence the colour change.
We must consider the internal condition of the body, which will influence and manifest itself in the water. Here we need to take into account sub dermis conditions, the capillary microcirculation and other internal influences that can be emitted through the largest human organ, the skin. Last of all, temperature will also affect the chemical reactions in the water.
If we take into account all these factors we can begin to understand why the water changes colour.
Is the change in colour of water the same for every treatment and for every individual?
No. Different treatments, individuals and water sources are likely to yield different colours but in all our investigations we detected no biological substances, furthermore the colours do not correspond to any pathological state or any organ deficit or any specific bodily excretion. The reasons for the change in water are as I've already mentioned, but also we could add improper rinsing of detergents used in the cleaning of the array and the bowl, which might produce bubbles.
So there are many reasons why the water might change colour, which means the whole process is impossible to calibrate which in turn means that clinical interpretation is misleading.
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- since it would probably impact your earning potential How would it do that? I do not and have never sold foot detox equipment. Or are you saying that I might be so convinced as to start manuf ....
So, where is the original site for this information?
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stridar
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I’ve noticed the site he keeps referencing is a medical propaganda site that is not trustworthy! This site also references Stephen Barrets Quackwatch a site supported by big medicine and the phar ....
I've noticed the site he keeps referencing is a medical propaganda site that is not trustworthy! This site also references Stephen Barrets Quackwatch a site supported by big medicine and the pharmaceutical industry! Stephen Barret is a known hired gun who has been defeated in many court rooms with his harrassment of alternative therapists! He is also being charged and hopefully does time on RICO charges in his false claims and Conspiracy to discredit known scientifically proven therapies!
This guy is a ringer not worth our time!
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I’ve noticed the site he keeps referencing is a me...
ParaZapper
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I’ve noticed the site he keeps referencing is a medical propaganda site that is not trustworthy! This site also references Stephen Barrets Quackwatch a site supported by big medicine and the phar ....
>- This guy is a ringer not worth our time!
Could just be misguided? Hmmmm, Naaaahhhh.
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I’ve noticed the site he keeps referencing is a medical propaganda site that is not trustworthy! This site also references Stephen Barrets Quackwatch a site supported by big medicine and the phar ....
Nah the other site he referenced is also a Quackwatch component! Just another Barret Parrot! The motive is clear the misinfo is murky but obvious! Another medtroll on the pond!
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Take a chill pill stridar! Not everyone quotes out of date info like you do, check into things and you’ll find that everything that you think you know is wrong. But you probably get that a lot so ...
Take a chill pill stridar! Not everyone quotes out of date info like you do, check into things and you'll find that everything that you think you know is wrong. But you probably get that a lot so you probably are immune to it.
OK, now on for a response to the question about the site, here is a link to the interview with Mary Staggs:
http://www.detox-online.com/copy-how.asp
I found it just now by doing a google search on: mary staggs ionic detoxification, earlier I had come across it while looking for info to explain to my wife that there really were no toxins in the ionic detoxification unit which her chiropractor used on her.
Stridar you may want to check it out too, she goes into how the colors in the water don't mean anything, plus the colors appear regardless of the presence of feet etc. Not that you really want to know or anything. Just be honest enough to stop selling sessions if you are doing that.
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Does she quoate Stephen Barret too? And talk aboput behind the times, any child knows Quackwatch is a propaganda misinfo organization! You are the one living in the dark ages! Have you ever tried t...
Does she quoate Stephen Barret too? And talk aboput behind the times, any child knows Quackwatch is a propaganda misinfo organization! You are the one living in the dark ages! Have you ever tried the foot bath yourself or are you just pushing this line of crap from these misinfo sites?
~Stridar~
"Take a chill" thats so stupid! Stick to the subject matter dont play armchair psychobabbler!
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No Mary Staggs is someone that you can’t refute, since she’s also a new age ”well respected” natural healer! You didn’t even look at it did you? If you refute her then you’re refuting your own ind...
No Mary Staggs is someone that you can't refute, since she's also a new age "well respected" natural healer! You didn't even look at it did you? If you refute her then you're refuting your own industry! LMAO-
B.S. There are plenty of psuedo sites out there to...
stridar
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B.S. There are plenty of psuedo sites out there to discredit legit alternatives! I also dont consider the new age tag carte blaunce credibilty for anything, much of the new age info is as bad as ....
B.S. There are plenty of psuedo sites out there to discredit legit alternatives!
I also dont consider the new age tag carte blaunce credibilty for anything, much of the new age info is as bad as the dogmatic world of the establishment !
Your case is still weak and like I said your credibilty was brought to zero with your referencing Barret! Babble on if you wish ! I dont think I really need to persue this anymore!
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MAYBE if you had all the information, you would know that Mary is (gasp) STILL SELLING the units? Maybe you should read her article in it’s entirety from her own site and THEN comment? http://www...
MAYBE if you had all the information, you would know that Mary is (gasp) STILL SELLING the units? Maybe you should read her article in it's entirety from her own site and THEN comment?
http://www.marystaggsdetox.com.au/information.php?info_id=6
It might be a little less embarassing that way.
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You Might be an Altie CureZone2005 16 y 4,652 † C †
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You Might be an Altie
Altie was coined to describe people who are so militantly pro-alternative medicine and so distrustful of conventional medicine that they will never admit when conventional medicine is effective and refuse ever to concede that any alternative medical practitioner might, just might, possibly be a quack.
They are a strident, anti-intellectual, anti-reason, and anti-science subset of alt-med users, who tend to make impossibly grandiose claims for their favorite remedy and usually also express a strong distrust and hatred of conventional medicine and science in general. They are also prone to distrust the government, believe in outlandish conspiracy theories and like to point to the lack of evidence as proof they are right.
YOU JUST MIGHT BE AN ALTIE IF…
- If you think vaccines cause autism, you are an altie
- If you believe that doctors, scientists, and the pharmaceutical companies conspire to suppress your favorite "alternative medicine" modality, you just might be an altie.
- If you like to claim that science is a religion, you might be an altie.
- If you accept vague and/or poorly documented anecdotes and testimonials as sufficient evidence that an "alternative" therapy "works," you just might be an altie.
- If you make claims for a product or therapy like, "strengthens the immune system," "restores balance," "detoxifies the liver," "cleanses the colon," or "cleanses the blood," you may be an altie.
- If you are impressed by such claims when made by others, you just might be an altie.
- If you do most of your "scientific" research on websites that exist to sell "alternative health" products, you might be an altie.
- If you carefully avoid any criticism of any "alternative medicine" practitioner, product, or theory, regardless of how mind-numbingly obviously unscientific, illogical, internally inconsistent, or fraudulent it may be, you might be an altie.
- If you accept or agree with every vilification of medicine and science as The Truth, regardless of the source or of how obviously irrational, without basis, or unjustified the vilification is, you might just be an altie.
- If you believe that Hulda Clark is being unjustly "persecuted" by "conventional medicine" and/or "the government" because she is a "threat," you are very likely an altie.
- If you believe that Tony Isaac’s toxic soup is the cure for cancer and that “big pharma” is suppressing his findings, you may be an altie.
- If you believe anything that has ever come out of Kevin Trudeau’s mouth, you might be an altie.
- If you drink strange mineral conconctions to “alkalize” yourself then you might me an altie.
- If you absolutely, positively cannot ever admit that a conventional therapy, any conventional medical therapy, can cure a disease, any disease, you may well be an altie.
- If you believe that vaccines "don't work" or that they cause chronic diseases, you just might be an altie.
- If you believe anything you read at Whale.to, Prisonplanet or Cure Zone, you just might be an altie.
- If your If you think misc.health.alternative should be a sunny little support group where true believers in alternative healthcare share testimonials and gleefully trash science and medicine without comment from skeptics (in other words, if you want it to be like Cure Zone), you may be an altie.
- If you think colloidal silver ingestion will do anything other than turn you blue, you may be an altie.
- If you can regularly post to the support message boards on Cure Zone without being banned, they you're definitely an altie.
- If you think it's OK for misc.health.alternative (or any other such newsgroup) to be awash in advertising for snake oil quackery and other spam, you may be an altie.
- If you believe that alternative medicine practitioners are far more caring for their patients and far more moral (and therefore, by implication, less corruptible by money) than conventional doctors, you just might be an altie.
- If you believe that companies selling alternative medicines have every right to charge high prices for their products (example: GlowLife charging hundreds of dollars for a 150 g tin of Ginseng powder, as I described earlier), but that pharmaceutical companies which spend hundreds of millions of dollars and several years to get each new drug developed, tested, and approved) don't, you are very likely an altie.
- If you dismiss every well-designed randomized clinical study that failed to show a benefit for an alternative medicine or therapy over placebo control as either not proving that the therapy is ineffective or as having been manipulated by nefarious forces (conventional medicine, the pharmaceutical companies, the government, etc.) to produce a negative result, you may well be an altie.
- If you believe that contrails are a part of a plot to by a shadowy international organization, you might be an altie.
- If you call your backyard herb garden "the pharmacy", you might be an altie.
- If you prefer quotes to scientific evidence, you might be an altie.
- If your health vocabulary regularly includes terms like "synergystic", "holistic", "energy", "mind-body", "quantum" or "chi" then you might be an altie.
- If you can go on for hours about how many people die from medical errors but get confused when someone mentions the victims of alternative medicine, you might be an altie.
- If you say your healer "is too busy people making people healthy" to conduct evidence-based trials but have never met a single person helped by them, you might be an altie.
- If you think eating raw food is a cure for everything, you might be an altie.
- If you believe people in the past regularly reached over 100 years of age, you might be an altie.
And finally
· If you follow this up with an anti medicine version of “You might be an altie”, then you are positively, irrefutably an ALTIE.
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This is a reply to # 1,139,262You might be a mainstream tool if
you made the above absurd post.
What are you doing on CureZone if you believe that
"If you can regularly post to the support message boards on Cure Zone without being banned, they you're definitely an altie"?
Actually, you might get banned for posting the same message in more than the permissable three forums (Ruh roh! Of course you can always go the fake martyr route and blame it on being banned for not being an altie).
Amazing that you came here four years ago and your first post was about anal body odor and bowel movements (http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=558902#i) and identified yourself as a Kevin Trudeau book fan and told everyone how grateful you were to be here (http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=240969#i), asking about Stevia dangers and fasting and such, made a total of less than 30 posts in four years, none of which really indicate any wealth of knowledge, and then suddenly emerge as an authority on alties and vaccinations?
Who would have thunk it? And what happened to all that love Betty?
"I just recently started my journey to a more natural and less-toxic lifestyle and it's been absolute HEAVEN. Curezone has been a tremendous resource and I owe a lot to you guys."
What made you decide to attack CureZone and members like myself? Clogged again? I do think you need to redress that bowel movement issue - your posts indicate that you are rather "full of it".
DQ (aka Tony Isaacs the altie)
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I AM AN ALTIE AND PROUD OF IT!
As if your post wasn't ignorant enough, where do you come off specifically pinpointing Tony Isaacs and insulting him and his oleander remedy?
For your information, his remedy is responsible for people being alive today that would otherwise have died at the hands of your precious conventional medicine.
He gives of himself to humanity on a daily basis and you come along with this cheap shot?
And except for the point about Hulda Clark, my reply is...........
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
And you are doing an excellent job of speaking out of your posterior.
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The post does give one an idea of how fearful mainstream butchery is of holistic healing.
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Was this posted before or after mainstream medicine killed Patrick Swayze ?
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/pancreatic-cancer/news/20090915/patrick-swayze-di...
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Rather an Altie than a Dumbski
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This is a reply to # 1,139,262Rather an Altie than a Dumbski
That's right people turn off your brains right now and accept everything you're told to be absolutely 100% true - or people will be calling you some really stupid name that will be really embarrassing and make you step back in line like super fast!
I mean how out there do you have to be to believe that people lie. Ok I mean that government lies, ok yeah maybe a politician or two, but science? Who would have magical thinking enough to believe that studies funded by companies that stand to make billions on the products being studied would actually in any way manipulate data for their financial gain? Stand up right now because I have an aluminum foil hat with your name on it!
Of course Altie is such a lame name that the poster obviously just threw it out there himself. Like how those sicko's that don't want their air, sea, land, and food supply poisoned by industry are snidely called "Treehuggers" by the media.
Now THAT was a good one. I mean who wants to be called a TREEHUGGER? Can't you just hear the plebes now? "So that's what you're calling me??? Ok forget what I said about please not poisoning all of planet earth. You didn't think I was serious did you? Actually I was just talking to the missus about how using Agent Orange to dust our crops was a hell of an idea. I mean the stuff was already paid for in the 70's right? I am NO Treehugger!!
Altie? I won't even say nice try - you can't just pick any stupid sounding term out of your posterior and expect people to seperate from their beliefs like oil and water upon hearing it. It's gotta be catchy. Try again and set your sights higher this time.
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I was only able to give one small gift to anyone this Christmas,
just knitting needles with some yarn... oh that and my myself...
for whatever it is worth.
Some recent calamities, both of my cars broken down with one that is dead,
tow trucks, motels... and a few overdrafts... from wishful thinking later...
I did get to spend Christmas week with my 5 year old child.
On some days, I wish I could just forget about Christmas
with all of its deceptions but how could I steal the magic of that day
from my 5 year old little one? I tried to tell her the story of Jesus;
she told me she already knows about that...
but she was not interested.
She was just anxiously waiting...and waiting... waiting for that day after this day
when finally...finally.... Christmas day would arrive... I sigh...
but what am I to say? So I shut my mouth and let her talk about reindeer and elves...
I have been stranded with my daughter for five days now with no vehicle...
no money... And I say stranded but there is no injury for the stranding...
But still I am a little flustered with her as she is just bouncing
and bouncing and bouncing off of the walls...
I am afraid she has my ADD/ADHD situation
in spite of her coming out of her mother's womb
as a calm child with a delightful disposition.
It being too cold to go outside for more than a few moments...
I have had to play the prince
with her prince doll, or a dog, then a cat...
which I do reluctantly do... but she demands that I play...
and I have no gift to give her but myself...
so I play... and I play... and I play...
Knocking over things, refusing to eat
anything but Christmas treats...
my baby is a mess but somehow...
some way oh through it all,
I have gotten to know her..
my little one.. in some wonderful ways.
These are some beautiful words she had to say;
"Daddy, I love you all the way to heaven" and then she said...
"I love you all the way back to 'erf;' "Your the best daddy I ever had."
And I laughed... She also asked me yesterday;
"Daddy, what does a soul look like?" she said.
She wanted me to know that she loved me and
I felt in my heart how important to her I was to her
in those precious few moments shared.
My bouncy, bubbly and wonderful child said she had a dream
the night before Christmas Eve;
I inquired as to what it was that she dreamed about
and she said to me that she dreamed
it was Christmas... Christmas every day of the year...
and in her dream each day..every day that it snowed...
I thought Oh No! No... not snow! but I didn't say a word...
but I wanted to tell her....explain that where we live,
it snows only once..once only every few years...
Then she danced and she sang and she wandered off out of sight...
to look for her dolls... I looked out the window
and then to my surprise... as if by some Christmas magic...
a snow flurry blew in and some snowflakes as snowflakes floated by.
She ran to the window...She and shouted with glee...
It's snowing...it's snowing... it's snowing you see!
and just for a moment, I couldn't help but let down my guard...
and then and even until now my frozen heart for Christmas
thawed.
I opened my gift from her on Christmas day and what did I see
but her drawing of herself playing with me...
and then I noticed at oncehow when she drew herself...
she would draw a great big heart
where a tiny heart should be. She is such an angel and
says such wonderful things to me...
But even now as I write you, I am being hailed once again
to play the prince... to dance with her maiden doll at the ball...
She bows and she curtsy's and says after you,
I just said wait a moment until I press send to send this message through...
I then reflected on all the of things going wrong in the world and thought;
I can't help but believe it might not matter what happens in this world
of broken cars and broken hearts this day; things are going to be alright.
I hope, if you practice Christmas... or even if not
that these days...
when it is too cold to spend too much time outside
are spent within... and shared with those...
those that you love.
From "The Grinch" I meant rudi... Merry Christmas to All... - First
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