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Debates and Arguments
There is one main rule on support
forums on CureZone:
Debates and Arguments are not allowed,
cause they tend to disrupt supportive atmosphere, and tend to destroy forum.
We have debates forums where civilized debaters are welcomed!
Do not argue with CureZone Moderators!
Do not argue with CureZone Rules!
ADVERTISEMENTS,
PROMOTIONS, SOLICITATIONS,
PROPOSITIONS
Don't Do it !!!
Go to CureZone Directory
and promote your site/product there.
It is a free open directory!
Do not try to promote any web site or any product on
CureZone forums, unless you are going to post your message into the
Market
Forum
It doesn't matter if you are affiliated or not with a
site/product.
Posting a message that is a promotion of a commercial site or a commercial product is NOT ALLOWED on
CureZone forums.
When are you allowed to mention a brand
name/site name?
You are encouraged and you are allowed to talk
about any commercial product on CureZone Forums if you are just a customer.
Avoid promoting any commercial product in every single message you post!
If you are in any way related to the business which is producing, marketing or
selling the product, you should avoid mentioning the product in your messages!
If you are in any way related to the business which
is producing, marketing or selling the product, you are not allowed to mention
the product in your personal story!
Mentioning or promoting health products that you are profiting from poses a serious
conflict-of-interest!
You are encouraged to post URL or to link to any
web site. You are free
to share and you are
encouraged to share what worked for you, like the brand name of a
product, URL or address where to get it. You are 100% free
to link to any web shop that sells that product, ...BUT
ONLY if you are just a regular customer!!! Even then, you should not
repeat your story too many times, that will get you banned! Posting your
story once should be enough!?
What about mentioning and linking to non-commercial web
sites?
You are allowed to mention and to link to any
non-commercial web site, as long as you do it just occasionally.
If all of your messages sound as if your only
purpose of coming to CureZone is to promote your site, then you should avoid
posting, cause promotion is not the reason why CureZone forums exist.
Question
moderators will ask is:
Is your message to be understood
as a message posted with only purpose of promoting a web site, or does your
message have content of value, content that can stand on it's own feet, even if
you remove the URL?
If a message
have content of value, content that can stand on it's own feet, even if you
remove the URL, then the message should not be considered a promotion.
Another question that moderators must ask
is:
Is this a single message, or was this person
adding a same URL to all of his/her messages?
If a person is adding a same URL to all of
his/her messages, then even if messages are able to stand on it's own feet, the
messages may be considered a promotion, and moderators may decide to delete all
messages and to block a person.
I have a homepage. Can I add URL of my
Homepage as a signature to all of my messages?
No, that is against our rules.
But, you can add URL of your Homepage to your public
profile, and that way you can promote your website.
Forums, Mailing Lists and Discussion Groups
Do not advertise Forums, Mailing Lists or Discussion
Groups on CureZone forums!
Do not advertise CureZone Forums on other forums on the
web!
It is considered unethical to promote other discussion forums on curezone
forums, or to promote CureZone forums on other forums on the web, unless there
is an official link exchange agreement between forums/websites.
Promotions and Infomercials
If a message is a promotion or advertisement,
even masked advertisement, do not post it,
unless you are going to post inside
the
Market
Forum (forum specially designed
for sale and promotion of health related business)
Do not post a message with the only purpose
of promoting any commercial product.
Do not link to commercial web sites from
your messages!
ESPECIALLY DON'T DO IT
if you are directly profiting from products sold on that web site!
(Exception to this rule are links to books, cds, videos,
charts and other media commonly used as tools in health education. Example:
Links to Amazon.com and similar web sites.)
Do not post infomercials.
Do not promote commercial products based on studies,
but feel free to report your personal experience.
If you are not selling a product, you are free to report
your personal experience, or experience of your family members. In that
case, you are also free to link to a page where the product can be purchased.
MLM?
Do not post a promotonal message about products sold
through MLM networks/piramides!
That includes, but is not limiting to: Manatech,
Tahitian Noni International, Herbalife, Mangosten, Coral Calcium, Kinotakara,
Fit-Line, Natures Sunshine, Awareness, Body Wise, Nu Skin, Rexall, Quixtar,
Amway, Avon, Tupperware, New Vision International, Melaleuca, Mary Kay,
NuSkin Enterprises, Shaklee, Longevity Network, Nikken, Cognigen Networks,
Changes International, Dale Networks Pvt, Pre-Paid Legal, Primerica, IMX, ACN,
International, Maxxis, Wellness International Network, Freelife International,
Market America, Noevir, Watkins, Body Wise International, USANA, Symmetry,
Pampered Chef, Petra Fashions, Longaberger, Nutrition For Life, Health Thru
Nutrition, BeautiControl, Creative Memories, Reliv International, World
Financial Group, Golden Neo-Life Diamite, New Image International, Cell Tech, My
Money Machine, Discovery Toys, Partylite Gifts, Southern Heritage, Miracle
Associates, Conklin Company Inc, Envion, Array International ...
Breach of this rule may result in you being banned from
CureZone!
Promoting health products that you are profiting from poses a serious
conflict-of-interest
even if you are a qualified health care practitioner,
and even if products are worthwhile.
Before becoming involved in multilevel marketing, you should
consider how much value you place upon your good name. A short-term financial
gain may not be worth what it cost in long-term loss of social status.
Multilevel marketing (also called network marketing) is a
form of direct sales in which independent distributors sell products, usually in
their customers' home or by telephone. In theory, distributors can make money
not only from their own sales but also from those of the people they recruit.
In case of MLM products, all customers are also salesmen.
That doesn't mean that products are wortheless,
it only means that there is a significant conflict of interest.
What is wrong with MLM?
Hundreds of thousands of people are selling health products as
"independent distributors." Product lines typically include vitamin supplements,
weight loss formulas, fiber-containing snack bars, and/or herbal remedies.
- Products sold in this fashion must be overpriced to finance the greedy
profits promised to distributors (person selling products, and all salesmen on
the higher level of "piramid" or "network" are suppose to earn from each
sale).
- Selling health products one recommends poses a serious
conflict-of-interest even when sellers are qualified and products worthwhile.
- Salespeople are encouraged to make oral health claims while companies seek
deniability for themselves via fine print disclaimers.
MLMs are driven largely by greed. The idea of working hard for a
while, building up a substantial down-line sales system, and watching the money
roll in, is appealing, but is "too good to be true." Literature of the NuSkin
company claimed that distributors could make $5,000 to $10,000 per month, but
98% of all distributors earned an average of $38 a month. Even the
well-established Amway company has not been able to deliver on the sweet dream
for most of its people. The company has 14,000 employees, and over 3 million
distributors internationally, and global sales of $7 billion, yet, the average
monthly gross income of Amway representatives is less than $90.
Forum
"Commando"
Do not behave like a forum "Commando"!
A Forum "Commando" is a person who trolls forums by deleting his
own messages and leaving meaningless threads.
A Forum "Commando" is just like any other user.
He/she participates in discussions, asks legitimate questions, posts legitimate
answers. You can not recognize a forum "Commando" by reading
his/her messages.
It is what a forum "Commando" does later that makes
him/her a problem.
A forum "Commando" returns to his old messages, and
removes everything, not leaving even a message subject.
"Commando" jumps into a threaded forum, locates his/her own
messages and
then he/she erases any trace and any sign of his
presence, leaving forum threads deserted, meaningless, skeletons that are of no
value to future visitors.
What is left after a "Commando" visits a forum are threads with holes, so that
replies that are still there are more or less meaningless.
A "Commando" abuses good forum visitors by asking questions, receiving
meaningful replies from them, but after removing his own messages and
questions, ... those replies are not anymore meaningful ... and those people
spending their time to discuss or answer questions have now been abused ... as
their messages are more or less useless...
Examples of threads deserted by a forum "Commando"
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1170034#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1174472#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1191938#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1192303#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=194725#i
We have
The Privacy
Manager that can be used to remove a username from all message inside a
single forum.
The Privacy
Manager can also be used for hiding all messages from curezone search .. so
that nobody can find your messages when searching CureZone.
Those options are enough to protect privacy .. and there is no reason for
"Commando" style termination of all messages inside a single forum.
Removing a username is usually enough to disassociate any message
from your name.
Any violation of any of our policies may result in termination
of your access to CureZone, deactivation or deletion of your account and all
related information and files in your account, and preclusion of any further
access to such files or CureZone, without prior notice.
All
messages posted on CureZone.com are indexed by the major search engines like:
Google, Yahoo,
MSN,
AltaVista,
AskJeves, Aol,
Netscape, Excite,
Alexa,
Northern Light ... and by hundreds of other
search engines. Anyone with internet access,
including people you know, your friends, neighbors, relatives and people you work with can easily
find your message (in a fraction of a second) and read it! If you wish to
remain anonymous, please do not disclose any personal information (name, email,
phone, address, city) inside your message!
When choosing your CureZone username,
do not use the same username/password that you are using for your email address.
Do not try to create FAKE discussions!
Some people try generating fake discussions, by posting
questions and answers from 2 or 3 different usernames, or by simply using
anonymous number #54565 when posting one message, and real username when posting
another message.
Do not try to do that! You can not cheat curezone moderators
with such cheap tricks.
People have been banned from CureZone for less!
Why do some posts get deleted?
If you post a message in breach of any one of the previously mentioned
rules, your message will be removed!
We have different rules for different forums. Rules that apply for
support forums are far more strict then the rules that apply to debate
forums. You can easily troll a support forum because of our stricter
guidelines, as we are focused on support-based posts only. No
debating.
Support Forums
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If it is a troll, it gets deleted:
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If it promotes the Quackwatch agenda (quackwatch troll), it gets deleted.
Dr. Barrett of Quackwatch criticize "quacks" for picking and choosing the
research or publications they will use to support their claims. The exact
same description of Quackwatch could be applied. Dr. Barrett has picked
the information he will believe and slammed any he doesn't believe. This
selectivity is not "scientific" at all.
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If it is trying to spin conflicting information, if it is questioning in an
insincere manner, if it is divisive and argumentative, flaming discussion, it
gets deleted. Nobody likes people coming to the forums and wasting people's
valuable time with insincere questions and need-to-be-right attitudes.
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If it slanderously or libelously attacks unfounded ("Dr Schulze kills people!"), it gets deleted.
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If it's a vicious personal attack ("You ignorant bottom dwelling pond scum"), it gets deleted.
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If it's obvious marketing spam ("Go here! Best Ever!"), it gets deleted,
unless it is posted in Market
Forum.
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If it's hidden marketing spam, like an incomplete message,
asking you to email the person to get the rest of the info. Example:
"I cured my Acne 100%. Email me for more info:
john@acne100cure.com"
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If it's a personals ad (like the guy looking for actresses for his next X-rated movie) it gets deleted.
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If it is dangerously stupid that could cause a newbie to seriously be injured or killed, it's a damned good candidate for
deletion. (These would include things like "brushing my teeth with Clorox really makes them white!")
In the meantime, we'd post a counter with medical reasons why it is not good IMMEDIATELY!
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If it's an invitation to move to another forum somewhere on the web ("Go
here! There is much better forum here with a lot of cool people!"), it gets
deleted unless it is posted in Best Websites
Forum
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If it slanderously or libelously attacks CureZone ("CureZone is the worst
web site ... the worst people I ever met") ... it gets deleted unless it is
posted in our Guest Book
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If it's a multiple post, the oldest or the unreplied gets deleted.
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Debate Forums
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If it's a vicious personal attack ("You ignorant bottom dwelling pond scum"), it gets deleted.
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If you are contsntly spaming forums by posting 5 -10 new
topics that only contain copy-paste texts taken from other sites, those
messages may get deleted.
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If it's obvious marketing spam ("Go here! Best Ever!"), it gets deleted,
unless it is posted in Market
Forum.
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If it is hidden marketing spam, like an incomplete message,
asking you to email the person to get the rest of the info. Example:
"I cured my Acne 100%. Email me for more info:
john@acne100cure.com"
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If it's a personals ad (like the guy looking for actresses for his next X-rated movie) it gets deleted.
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If it slanderously or libelously attacks CureZone ("CureZone is the worst
web site ... the worst people I ever met") ... it gets deleted unless it is
posted in our Guest Book
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If it's a multiple post, the oldest or the unreplied gets deleted.
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Is it allowed to mention brand names of products that I am
using?
Is it allowed to link to a commercial web sites?
Report
a violation of Posting Guidelines and Rules
here.
Most CureZone forums are intended for support!
Avoid sending unsupportive
messages!
Why do some members get blocked?
By default, all curezone members have the equal posting privilege, but ...
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If you are "trolling" or abusing support forums, you get blocked.
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If you are abusing debate forums, you get blocked.
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If
you repeatedly ignore rules listed on this page, you get blocked.
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If you are sending unsupportive messages to a support forum, you get blocked.
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If you are inflaming discussion on a support forum, you get blocked.
What is an Internet Troll/ Forum Troll?
- An "Internet troll" or "Forum
Troll" is a person who posts outrageous message to bait people to answer.
Forum Troll delights in sowing discord
on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric,
someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion.
Flaming discussions usually end with name calling and a flame war.
A classic CureZone troll is trying to make us believe that he
is a genuine skeptic with no hidden agenda. He is divisive and argumentative
with need-to-be-right attitude, "searching for the truth", flaming discussion,
and sometimes insulting people or provoking people to insult him. Troll is
usually an expert in reusing the same words of its opponents and in turning it
against them.
While sometimes, he may sound like a stupid,
uninformed, ignorant poster, do not be deceived! Most trolls are highly
intelligent people trying to hide behind a mask of stupidity and/or
ignorance! They usually have an agenda. Very few trolls come to CureZone
out of pure skepticism.
A CureZone
Troll is generally a person who is extremely skeptical of the main forum subject.
He is
generally interested to make other forum members look stupid. A troll will
sometimes use
insults to provoke other people to insult him. Then, he will complain to
moderators of being insulted and will request that his opponents get banned from
further discussion.It is generally very easy to troll
any one of
several hundreds of support forums on CureZone. As the majority of support forums on CureZone are about alternatives to commercialized medicine, all you have to do
to start a flaming thread questioning the main subject of discussion
and to provoke insults from hard core proponents. It has been done every
few weeks. It is strictly against our rules!
Initiating debates
on CureZone support forums is
strictly against the rules.
CureZone has plenty of
debate forums where those interested in questioning can have free rain.
Even debate forums on CureZone
can be trolled by name calling and by provoking name calling. Those trolls are
quickly banned from CureZone.
Sometimes, he is skeptical,
trying to scare people, trying to plant fear in their hearts. Many curezone
trolls are people trying to promote Quackwatch / ratbags agenda through fear
mongering.
For many trolls, lack of hard evidence about any therapy equals "DANGER". He
will try to scare people from even trying the therapy just because there is no
hard evidence that therapy is more effective then placebo.
More about Internet trolls here.
What to include in your posts?
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your personal experience:
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tips and success stories--what worked well for you that others
might benefit from
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tips and failure stories--what
didn't work well for you that others might benefit from
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suggestions based on your own
experience or something you read in a good book or
trusted/non-commercial/non-biased web site.
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Read: What makes a great health educator?
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news or information that you think will be useful to other
CureZone visitors
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questions or advice:
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how to improve your health, recipes, herbal remedies
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how to resolve acute health issues, how to prevent problems
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you are encouraged to post URL or to link to any non-commercial or
commercial web site,
except sites mentioned in the "what not to include" paragraph. You are free
to share and you are
encouraged to share what worked for you, like the brand name of the
product, URL or address where to get it. You are 100% free
to link to any web shop that sells that product, ...BUT
ONLY if
you are just a regular customer!!! Even if you are a regular customer,
you should not repeat your story too many times, do not push too far in
promoting any product! Let every person decide what and who to believe!
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Watch how you express your emotions and humor within your
mail. Due to the lack of vocal and non-verbal clues, we often need something
extra to read into a message what was intended - such as emoticons or
descriptive words. Also, remember that we have members from all over the
world, and that some may not have a firm grasp of the English language.
Sometimes it helps to use an 'emoticon' to express what you *feel* beyond
what the words *say*.
If something you post is supposed to be funny, you can end it with:
:-)
or with *S*
Rules of the Game
What not to include in your posts:
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Language and Flaming : Posting extremely foul or abusive
language aimed at a fellow forum member is forbidden. This includes
obscenities, verbal harassment or comments that would prove offensive based
on race, religion, sex, age, opinions or sexual orientation, lifestyle
orientation, diet orientation.
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profanity, obscenities, or spiteful remarks
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links to profanity, obscenities or
poor taste web sites.
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personal attacks, verbal harassment...
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questions or feedback intended for
CureZone Webmaster (There is a special forum called "Suggestions to
Webmaster" where you can direct your questions and suggestions)
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negative talk about CureZone
forums or CureZone web site. If you have any problem with CureZone web site,
please read our Disclaimer and post your concerns at "Guest Book",
or at "Suggestions to Webmaster" forum
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Promotion of other related forums on other web sites. It is
considered extremely inappropriate and even offensive to use any forum as a
way of promoting other similar forums. Do not promote curezone forums on other
similar forums on the web, and do not promote other forums on CureZone.
BREACH OF THESE GUIDELINES MAY RESULT IN REMOVAL OF YOUR MESSAGE,
OR YOUR MESSAGE MAY BE EDITED BY FORUM MODERATORS.
Exceptions
There are special forums (debate forums and
commercial forums) where some posting rules do not apply.
Few examples of those special forums are:
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