dear friends,reading through all the post,no-one who is positive in this FORUM is trying to shove anything down anyone's throat.It's simply to allow people to express their thoughts about the "god" they believe in,without having religion stuffed down their throats for "good" measure.Even then we still have people hidden under some "umbrella" trying to score points with the views of others on this FORUM.Debate is ok ,ridicule,i have found on all FORUMS is used by people who think that "only" their way is right.It's ok if they wish to make some valid point,( they have our blessing)but they can they make their point then move on, please preferbly back to their own FORUM,bye,tom.