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Very interesting post! I am really very carried away! It seems to me that in order to write a post so that people are really interested in reading, you need to be a talented person, well, or use the services of this service   [End]
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Pardon me for digging up such an old thread, but I just joined Curezone and this topic tweaked my interest.”Goiter is caused by lack of iodine, not too much”. Sure, but you do occasionally come across messages and testimonials on the internet with words to the effect ”Help! I’ve been taking iodine for twelve months and now I think I’ve got a goiter!” Having myself taken iodine for years and had no problem with it at all (apart from early days detox blow back), I’ve often wondered what’s going on with that.I mean maybe they have been eating goitrogenic broccoli and cauliflower sandwiches al ...
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Is trapper a doctor or biochemistry, or just completed high school? I don’t trust that trapper?   [End]
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Thank you Trapper! I had a look at some of my notes and old posts and saw that some other users have reported that the Iodine journey is a marathon and it might take years to get saturated, so I will stick to it :) And I will check Facebook! Thanks, I had forgotten that Facebook can actually be useful for something!   [End]
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i agree with you, i just dont have any further answer for you. johns hopkins says goiter can come from under or over production of thyroid hormone. maybe do some cutting back and playing with dosage. the rest of what i said is golden for anyone wanting to improve health. seed oils (linoleic acid/omega 6/ PUFAs) are the number one health threat to americans. they make people fat and sick. i think there are some good iodine groups on facebook but im banned for life so take a look there. be well.   [End]
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Thank you Trapper! Very interesting what you write about the veg caps!... bottom line, the more we try to improve things and come up with fancy new solutions the further away we get from nature and when we eat any of those new inventions our body doesn’t recognise them! The FDA and CDC and WHO are a joke!...(don’t get me started haha) Going back to my goiter, I understand that it is the lack of Iodine that causes it but in my case I didn’t have it to start with, I only got it when started the iodine. So I am thinking ok, it is because the thyroid got excited to get iodine and expande ...
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goiter is caused by a lack of iodine, not too much iodine. try foods high in Cs and Bs like fresh citrus and nutritional yeast. yes, changes in diet can take time so its good so only make changes you can adopt and maintain and KNOW it is good for you. here is another idea. i have found that vegcaps are really bad for people. they are easily absorbed but not digestable by the body. this ”semi-synthetic plastic” bio-accumulates and creates a coating in the stomach that can actually block absorption of the very thing people take the vegcaps for. they can also cause diarrhea and the ...
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Thank you Trapper, really appreciate your input. I am sorry I didn´t include more details, if I described everything I have tried my message would probably be unbearably long to read for some! :) I take selenomethionine (always has) 200mcg from Pure encapsulations or Thorne, I have tried to increase it, took 600mcg at most for a few weeks with not much impact on the goiter - do you think I should try 800mcg (or even go up to 1200mcg) while being on 100mg Iodine (Lugol´s)? I research my supplements a lot, only buy the ones without magnesium stearate and silicon dioxide or other unn ...
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no mention of selenium type and dosage. the labs are unnecessary in my opinion, compared to how you feel. if the numbers were really off you would feel it, too. right? selenomethionine will not tax your liver like regular selenium and will protect the thyroid from hydrogen peroxide formed in the uptake of iodine. 200mcg daily is fine but with increased iodine comes an increased need for selenium. up to 800mcg per day of this form can be tolerated over long periods. 1,200 a day for short term to correct a problem or boost body burden. maybe stop the goitrogenic plants like bro ...
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Dear Curezone Members, I am very baffled and I hope you might be able to shed some light into my mysterious situation :) I have been on the Iodine protocol for 2 years now, I started low but within a few months I had built up to 100mg with co-supplements, experimented with taking KI as well around 300-500mg. Felt well, no major detox symptoms, apart from some ear ringing that went away after a few months. I have had no prior thyroid disease, the reason I started taking iodine was because of a cyst on my left ovary and mild FBD. Through the course of the therapy I’ve developed a sl ...
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How much iodine are you taking and how often? Is the goiter ’diffuse’, meaning the swelling is on both sides of the thyroid, or is it just in one area? Have you ever had a goiter or other thyroid related symptoms in the past? What prompted you to start taking iodine in the first place?   [End]
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I have been taking iodine for about 2ish years now. When I started I did not have any noticable thyroid issues. However a few months back I had a miscarriage and since then I have developed very noticable swelling in my thyroid and I am exhausted all the time. The swelling is so much that others notice the swelling and comment on it. I am doing salt flushes, herbs to support heavy metal detox and liver detox as well as taking vitamin c, selenium, magnesium, b vitamins. What am I missing or doing wrong?   [End]
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Yes it’s odd you stopped doing something that made you feel good and cleared up so many health problems. Have you tried painting iodine over the goiter? Start slow. Simple: bentonite clay paste over the goiter area every day for an hour? or maybe sleep with it on. Dispense of the dried clay carefully or with gloves as you might be pulling out some very toxic materials. Increase or start on fresh pineapple/kiwi/papaya juice in conjunction with iodine protocol. Work up to 1 liter or so per day if tolerated. You can add sugar to it if tolerated. Almost guaranteed cure: ozone c ...
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Hi all! I am a 36 year old female with a very stubborn goiter. I’ve essentially had it my entire life. My lab work has for most of my life been normal and I don’t have any thyroid symptoms (I did in the past). My goiter is just on the right side of my thyroid gland. The size can fluctuate somewhat dramatically-seems to be the most swollen during ovulation and menstration-so half the month ha! I have tried everything under the sun including iodine to shrink it with no success. I followed the iodine protocol for almost two years. I felt amazing, lost 15lbs with no effort, seasonal allergies ...
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As far as health supplements, are redox signalling molecules (ASEA) the same thing as or similar to PEA / PEAPure (palmitoylethanolamide)? It seems both/either can be really good for various health issues.   [End]
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my knowledge is limited. At the same time can report have seen all sorts of weird detox in many ppl’s reports over a decade. There are general guidelines about the weirdness and what to expect but each case is different. That is because everyone who breathes, has their own personal Toxin Profile. Your Toxin Profile and mine, and the next person’s, are not identical. It is like a fingerprint for each person, unique. The dental amalgams you may or may not have. The foods you ate the past 10 years and the toxins those foods may or may not have had. The vaccinations you may or ...
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Thanks... Im just wondering if this is normal when starting out cuz i was reading the thread“greatest answer to hashimotos” and dr brownstein was quoted for saying thyroiditis synptoms would be normal and if this would be related.   [End]
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I doubt it. Always there is more to the picture than what ppl on internet describe which is why it almost impossible is for non-MD’s to make medical diagnoses. Example is you said vitamin B, but there are several B vitamins. Another example is chelitis, I would used to get that if I stopped kissing German girls in the northern latitudes. I thought stopping kissing her was the cause of my chelitis, but it turned out I had un-knowingly become addicted to the Roquefort cheese she was feeding me, and had quit it same time we parted. So I thought stopping kissing her caused autoimmune c ...
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Hi curezone community! I have been a long time lurker here and have done most of my iodine related research here. Im quite worried however because I think I may have developed an autoimmune dieseas from stopping iodine a month or two after i started it. I think i continued supplementing selenium on and off during the abstinence period which was triggered because i felt like my kidneys were aching really badly one day after upping my dose i really thought my kidneys were failing. Soon after stopping i felt my heart beat would go crazy and my throat would throbb really badly i tried taki ...
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I was suffering from Sleep Apnea and about to go with the CPAP when i stumbled on a blog unrelated to iodine where someone mentioned they cured their SA with Lugol’s 2%. I bought two bottles and its been sweet dreams since the first day. According to my wife, I have had only two episodes since i started 7 mo ago. I do an avg of 4 drops per week. I’m 46. Also it may be inappropriate but ”morning wood” is back again, my sex drive is back to early 20’s levels. Was also having angina pain and headaches every day due to the SA. Angina and headaches are GONE. Its the real deal. Jus ...
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HI Cicada, may I know how long did it take for the goiter to disappear? According to the Endocrinologist, I have multinodular goiter which is spongy, just hoping Iosol iodine can shrink my goiter like it did yours. Thanks.   [End]
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Gina is correct, Every cell in the human body has an iodine receptor that is being filled by toxins of Bromide, Fluoride & chlorine. We live in a sea of these toxins and your thyroid is adversely affected. http://tinyurl.com/iodine-and-halogen-robbers You need iodine for optimal health. https://sites.google.com/site/iodinereferenes/home Also if someone in this thread is suffering MS, I have some very promising reseach. See "Multiple Sclerosis" and "Autoimmune Disease" here: http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Reading   [End]
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can anyone tell me if doing the iodine protocol instead of taking atp co factors one can just tak the niacin (500 mg) 2 times a day with the vitamin B2 3 times a day or must it be atp cofactors as it contains something else or is processed in a different or better way as money is an issue and I can get the regular b vitamins needed cheaper than the atp cofactor bottles.   [End]
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waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh.......   [End]
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you are right i edit it   [End]
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but sometimes I cant help myself:)!   [End]
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thanks!   [End]
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agree.   [End]
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no, let us leave them be , in time they will learn, but it is not our task, our task is each other :)   [End]
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Of course I need more V; always!   [End]
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why he is here; http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2142783#i but clearly he doesnt want help or cure, rather slash out at the ones that seek it, or the ones that actually could at least improve the situation. For anyone reading this, stay out of this thread, or any other thread this number post at; unless you want to be the next target. Here is the list for those who are in doubt; wonderful life? http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2164017#i   [End]
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You’re here, because you came to fulfill the law and love us all, and you come to give us nothing but your love, of course !! Romans 13:8 :)) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+13%3A8&version=NKJV http://www.owenomananything.com/   [End]
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If curezone were just 1 forum about 1 topic I could see the point of your question. But the simple fact is that curezone covers a broad range of more than just medical issues. There are numerous forums that dont even deal directly with anythng health related. The political forum and trappers forum just to name a few. Asking me why I’m here because I’m not looking for a cure is like asking someone why they went to disneyland if they didnt ride on mickey mouses ferris wheel or why they went to vegas if the didnt play blackjack.   [End]
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Why are YOU here?   [End]
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Then why are you here?   [End]
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I have a wonderful life Gina, with many more joys than you give me credit for. You know absolutely nothing about me or how I live. To assume that you do because of a few internet rants or some online bickering isnt a very good way to develope any kind of meaningful dialogue. My worst character trait is probably my not-so-good conscience, most likely from the ’disease’. I probably care less about certain things and have a way of letting bs roll off of me. This causes me to sometimes say some pretty nasty things. But typically I have to be provoked first. Not everyone needs your help ...
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I usually come to these forums with a light heart, but right now when I know who you are, know your disease; whats up for you; it is not so anymore. My link above: I made this thread for you, but also because I like a challenge, the worst cases; whom there are not much hope for. Although I still have that hope, fighting spirit, just as you know it. And my special interest as my father had a similar disease. If your only joy in life is to make fun of V and G, or my spelling, or debate at these forums, then go ahead.   [End]
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karma? lol, no. karma is what happens to you and gina on forums like fight club. People disrespecting you and making fun of you because of your V-a-Gina forum. And gina, who cant seem to spell and has a difficult time even forming a proper sentence unless she copies and pastes it from the internet. She smiles and laughs online but I can tell you it really bothers her(you?) when someone makes fun of her(you?). How can anyone pretending to be so everything to everyone not feel bad when being made fun of? They cant, so they try to cover it up with smileys and lol’s. She even tried to ...
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They only just need to learn, the karma that’s attached to negative will towards V&G can’t be good   [End]
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so, whats up you; how is your health issue proceeding, did you actually try the iodine? http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2142550#i   [End]
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well, theres that. and lots of laughs of course........   [End]
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”Quite frankly, curezone offers nothing else to me other than debate.” Well good, at least you derive some benefit from curezone, so its not all bad. Have fun, enjoy your useless ”debates ”   [End]
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Next thing you know, we’ll see Gina, or one of your many other aliases post a reply here as well. Quite frankly, curezone offers nothing else to me other than debate. And it isnt a debate unless someone answers back. So NOW who is the hypocrit(e)?   [End]
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LOLLLLLL, you appear to be a ”professional” debater, possibly a master debater: http://curezone.org/forums/s.asp?f=762&c=0&ob=d&m=%23133264 If that is what you want to do with your time, lolllllll   [End]
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Who is this V you all like to blather about ? I merely pointed out why you’re a pathetic piece of shhit, and interestingly, you couldn’t help but grasp the opportunity my posting permitted to further demonstrate that you’re additionally a hypocrit, using a ”number” to post, and accuse others of using a number, as if that’s somehow ”bad”, lol.   [End]
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Why use your alias number v? Dont want anyone to see you defending your virtual lover? You and G DO have one thing in common. [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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Picking on a female ? Picking on a female who’s first language isn’t English, for a spelling error in English ? What a pathetic piece of shhit you are   [End]
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thats all I could think of......   [End]
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Nothing of the above is true You are selfish and you think are not connected with the universe thats why you eat the beef and the oysters V is selfish also he talked shit about barefoot suggesting that he is a redneck but barefoot is FAR FAR FAR FAR above V”knowledge from day first on curezone FACT Trapper is a good guy BUT he is preaching love though he is hating on jews iodine made him like this he was good at the begining before iodine when just following Mh and his natural living induced ideas Wombat i dont know her but he talked shit about mh ”s iodine so she is also sel ...
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lolololol! Yes I forgot in my gossip tale that you always make me laugh, loud:)))   [End]
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Iodine gossip forum; or iodine debate;?   [End]
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My guess is, that one of the rocks in your head worked its way down, a sort of reverse-kundalini effect. Whatever you do, DON’T swallow it !! I suggest you invert yourself and bounce, chanting Ooohhhhhmmmmmm repeatedly at 432 Hz; with any luck you can get the rock to move back in to your skull   [End]
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Well, since this is the iodine debate forum, I`d like to stay on topic. Not that it is anything wrong with orange juice, we both love it; same with sunshine.. But iodine; At the iodine forums this is the topic. Thats why people come to this forums; I believe. While the ones that want to know about herbs, go to the herbal forums, etc. Not to hear your gossip about V and G. The best forum for that is actually the fight club; as it seems to be focused on this lately, about what we do or not. If you really need to know more, why not ask the webmaster for a forum; what V and G really do- ...
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and guys, these people have their own forum giving medical advices. the world at its worst. sun+fruits iodine   [End]
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Other than the V&G forum, I noticed that there is still no ’G’ added to any of the forums that you claim to be a part of. Do you suppose it is because the others feel as though you dont know what you are talking about? V obviously just doesnt care. Oh wait. You ARE V.. or a V wannabe.. or.. something..   [End]
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well, yes.. or it could be that the rock feeling is a goiter appearing due to iodine deficiency. http://thyroid.answers.com/goiter/important-things-to-know-about-nodular-goiter One year after you painted iodine on your skin.. it is like complaining about an ex that left you a year ago; and now you put every problem on her:)   [End]
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even after one year still expelling the stuff never ever ever ever ever touch this thing on you skin and i wasnt even ingesting i was just painiting! poisons do that i havent heard of anyone being sick of orange juice which is the real cure to most disease orange juice fasting or oranges mono meals the silly scientist and wanna be cyber doctor will say that it was the body trying to grab the iodine due to the hunger and fear that it wont get enough in the future so it traps it in the throat for the future makes you think if iodine increases iq or we are exposed to too ...
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Thanks, Ginagirl. Reassuring to know someone else with a thyroid problem was helped by enzymes.   [End]
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”Could it have something to do with faulty permeability of cell membranes or transport of iodine or something else into/out of cells?” -definitely. I cant see anything working well if the digestion of fat doesnt work. Permeability of cell membranes,yes. - think sulfur; http://www.iamm.com/gi-index.htm ”lipase/phosphatidylcholine” I had great effect of taking enzymes in the beginning of iodine supplementation. My digestion really was no good. When it start working, as seem to be in your case; utilization of fatty acids will increase, hence everything work better. To have an im ...
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What connection could there be between the goiter and the bile problem or the goiter and the lipase/phosphatidylcholine, since one or both of the latter supplements has apparently impacted the goiter size by beginning to bring it down, something that the whole Iodoral regimen has not done despite bringing up the iodine level? Could it have something to do with faulty permeability of cell membranes or transport of iodine or something else into/out of cells?   [End]
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Thanks for your response. I take 50mg of Iodoral in the morning with ATP co-factors and selenium, multiple vitamin, calcium, etc. Have not tried magnesium for this though I have used it in the past for stress and for constipation. It was effective for both. I have not used magnesium chloride. What I am doing now seems to be working. Just cannot figure out the connection the goiter and evacuation both improved immediately when I started the lipase and phosphatidylcholine Any ideas?   [End]
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- phosphatidylcholine; if you can get hold of a non GMO lecithin, it would have similar effect. Even better; raw organic egg yolk. The goiter; taking how much iodine? all companion min / vitamins? You are not digesting fat properly, gallbladder issue. Have you tried acupuncture / chinese med? Are you taking enough magnesium? ”However, says Delbet, ”cases of the gall bladder being healed by the regular use of halogenated magnesium salts are numerous.” Delbet gives an interesting account of a doctor who used magnesium in connection with difficulties he had with the bile: ”Th ...
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I have had an enlarging thyroid the last several years and have been on Iodoral and having it monitored with urine tests. For a couple of years I have been having clay to white color stools intermittently. At first those were rare, then gradually more frequent but would go to normal for long periods of time. I did not pay much attention and did not associate it with the goiter. Last Summer the evacuation situation became more pronounced and my goiter got bigger. I went to an endocrinologist who told me I cannot digest fat and that I should: continue Iodoral, drink goat’s milk, take ox bile ...
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Unknowingly I put this theory to the test,,and it is dead on. I changed my diet to friuts, vegetables and protein,but to make up for lost calories of no bread or pasta,I drank milk.I started on sunday,a week later my throat started hurting,by tuesday it was painful to swallow,the left side of my neck had a knot. Not knowing what it was I went on the web to find out.I had heard of goiter but didn’t really know what it was.I went back on my old diet,cut out the milk,and after about 3 days the pain started easing.What I thought was a good diet,did not have much iodine.   [End]
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yes I saw it just now; thank you JT   [End]
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There was a "close parentesis" at the end of the link that was causing the mistake. http://www.physicsforgirls.com/   [End]
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Ok; the link didnt work in my post either..   [End]
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Funny you should mention this Trapper; last weeks I have been reading the relative theory et al because my eldest son has become interested in quantum physics and he needs me for discussion... (couldnt open the link; here it is; http://physicsforgirls.com/) I have said for some time; medical sience are stuck, many answers lies in quantum physics; though they deny that they have the answer to e.g homeopathy. Guess they are afraid to look stupid. Stupid that is; what are they really afraid of? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmd8kBKpuFQ http://bigthink.com/ideas/18093 htt ...
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Scary, isn’t she? And more real than any :)   [End]
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Yes I believe this is the essence why iodine & co works; it kickstart the endocrine system. Thats why it is important to do the companions as it supports not only the thyroid, but also the adrenals and the pineal-pituitary gland. Fluoride more than anything disrupt the latter. Maybe one of our problems is that we doesnt eat the whole animal, with glandulars and all; mostly muscle meat are consumed these days, while a predator would have these as its last choice.   [End]
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no kiddin. there was no big pharma. those lucky people.   [End]
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I know! Me too! :)   [End]
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I know. The old literature is really good in that the medical system was not yet controlled by big pharma...   [End]
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currently playing with raw pituitary. love what the thyroid and adrenal did for me. have thymus waiting in the wings. all i can say is that there must be a ton of endocrine disruptors in our environment. i have not had these kinds of improvement(read: didnt feel like this since youth!) since iodine.   [End]
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Option (b) for me, please :) "Thyroid extract and iodin might be beneficial in preventing the development of fibroids as well as of goiters." Great find, Wommie!   [End]
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go excruciatingly slow on research of things that cure and fast track approval on everything we can make criminal amounts of money on.   [End]
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now if they’ll just look into the gut connection as well, perhaps we’ll make some headway... http://www.internalmedicinenews.com/index.php?id=495&cHash=071010&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=55147 04/21/11 ~follow link for complete text: Nontoxic Goiter Tied to Higher Risk of Breast Cancer By: HEIDI SPLETE, Internal Medicine News Digital Network SAN DIEGO – Women with nontoxic goiter were more than twice as likely to have breast cancer, compared with women in the general population, according to a review of data from 789 women with nontoxic, multinodular goiter, uninodular goiter, or sim ...
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 Also do you think that the Black Walnut Hull powder could get me going with Hyperthyroid like symptoms this fast. I’ve only been on it about a week or so and the Goiter feeling started about 4 days ago. My basal temps are still below normal though. You have not mentioned anything I recall that would indicate hyperthyroidism. I still think it is more likely that the thyroid is enlarging to utilize the surge of iodine. If this is the case then I would expect it to reduce soon as thyroid hormone levels increase back to a normal level. Maybe it’s the Ashwagandha powder ...
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 I’ve been drinking two full glasses of Kefir milk a day for almost a month. I’ve also been taking Chlorella which has a lot of B-12. This is actually a B12 analogue, cyanocobalamin, which is believed to be converted in to active methylcobalamin in the body given the proper nutrients. My throat started to get bigger after starting supplementation with Black Walnut Hull powder for Hypothyroidism. I’ve read that B-12 is not good for goiters. A deficiency or an excess can lead to goiters. The funny thing is I never had a problem until started the BWH powder. My question is do ...
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Also do you think that the Black Walnut Hull powder could get me going with Hyperthyroid like symptoms this fast. I’ve only been on it about a week or so and the Goiter feeling started about 4 days ago. My basal temps are still below normal though. Maybe it’s the Ashwagandha powder I started taking about that time. Around the time I started taking this I started to feel super charged with Hyperthryoid like symptoms. Do some people have this reaction with Ashwagandha? You said to back down on the herbs and re-introduce them to find the ”problem” if one occured. I’ve been on all the re ...
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Hi Hveragerthi, I’ve been drinking two full glasses of Kefir milk a day for almost a month. I’ve also been taking Chlorella which has a lot of B-12. My throat started to get bigger after starting supplementation with Black Walnut Hull powder for Hypothyroidism. I’ve read that B-12 is not good for goiters. The funny thing is I never had a problem until started the BWH powder. My question is do you think it would be ok to continue with the Kefir milk/Chlorella? They weren’t giving me any problems that I noticed. I’m taking the two for good flora repopulation and for vitamins. I don’t w ...
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”... osteoporosis is a brain issue not a calcium issue anyhow... ” Wha? Oh boy. Guess what I will be researching ASAfreakingP?   [End]
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on average, americans have calcium overload and deficiencies in D and magnesium. calcium does no good if it cant be absorbed or cant be utilized. calcification is just another name for death.   [End]
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old research, I have no idea what they used...   [End]
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No, I’m not saying that- Guy Abrahams, MD, one of the pioneering io-docs is: http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962&q=561   [End]
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We are told all the time to take our cod liver and two glasses of milk daily (or take calcium supplements). We have loads of osteoporosis. We are told all the time to take our cod liver and two glasses of milk daily (or take calcium supplements). We have loads of osteoporosis. Let’s see, Cod Liver Oil loaded with VitD, Milk is a bad way to get calcium anyhow so ignore the Milk board propaganda, however it does supply a lot of really bad Vit C, and finally calcium supplements with more unconverted D. But besides that if V was posting he would tell you that osteoporosis is a b ...
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Very interesting posts. ”Dr. C. Alexander Hellwig, 42, of St. Francis Hospital, Wichita, Kan. doubted that theory. He had noted as had others that a diet low in iodine, high in calcium produced the most pronounced goiters. He believed there must be a positive cause for goitrous enlargement of the thyroid, probably calcium.” I love it when people doubt a theory and put it to a test. I have avoided calcium as the plague for a couple of years; as the rest of the folks here do loads of it; and dont get any better of anything; especially osteoporosis. I recall a study showing that the l ...
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So, you’re saying don’t supplement with calcium - or at least reduce calcium intake?   [End]
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Hibbard’s (’33) results in which calcium chloride but not other calcium salts was found to produce goiter, are there fore confirmed. However, Hibbard’s second conclusion that chloride is goitrogenic is not supported by these results since without vitamin D, calcium chloride did not cause an increase in thyroid weight. Maybe about time to differentiate between D2/D3 and inactive vs active forms...after that a lightbulb may go on...   [End]
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make of it what you will. I observe that many are being prescribed vitamin D supplements these days... http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/reprint/25/2/119.pdf In goiter surveys and experimental studies, calcium has been suggested as a goitrogenic agent. Surveys by Orr (’31) and Stott (’32) have shown that goiter often occurs in lime stone regions. It is now commonly accepted that the thyroid influences calcium metabolism. However, there is no general agreement on the goitrogenic role of calcium in the reported experimental studies. Thompson (’36) found that the thyroid size va ...
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tell. get wordy:)   [End]
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,742139,00.html The established theory is that goiter is due to lack of iodine in food & drink. Iodine stimulates the thyroid gland. In goiter the thyroid swells to compensate for its iodine insufficiency. Dr. C. Alexander Hellwig, 42, of St. Francis Hospital, Wichita, Kan. doubted that theory. He had noted as had others that a diet low in iodine, high in calcium produced the most pronounced goiters. He believed there must be a positive cause for goitrous enlargement of the thyroid, probably calcium. Wichita is an excellent place for ...
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You are a research angel. This particular thread is of significant interest for a family member at this moment.   [End]
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hmmm, kinda deviating from original topic. oh, well:) http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/summary/58/6/957 A disturbance of the calcium balance has been found in thyroid disease.1 Apparently there is a relationship between the calcium and iodine intake, the normal function of the thyroid gland and the development of goiter.2 Consequently, we became interested in determining any existing correlation between the total calcium and iodine metabolism and thyroid disease in man. For at least a century calcium has been considered a factor in the production of goiter. As early as 1837 M ...
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following up on this: ”emphasizing magnesium instead of calcium. In the author’s experience, megadosing with calcium (2,000-3,000 mg/day) has been the most common cause of poor response to orthoiodosupplementation.” http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/32/6/786 The distributions of calcium, iodine and phosphorus in human thyroid glands (normal, hyperthyroid, multinodular adenomatous hyperplasia and follicular carcinoma) were determined by electron-probe microanalysis. Unexpectedly, calcium is heavily distributed throughout the colloid material but is even more concent ...
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Guy Abrahams, MD.(aka the MAN!)- follow link for complete text: http://www.vrp.com/newsletter.aspx?newsdate=2-1-2008#2234 Increased organification of iodide in the thyroid gland following ATP Cofactor was observed in FM patients. In Table 1 are displayed the results of thyroid function tests in 5 FM patients before intervention, after 100 mg iodine for 6 weeks and after the addition of the ATP Cofactors for another 6 weeks. The mean values of all thyroid hormones measured decreased following 6 weeks on iodine at 100 mg/day. However, all mean values increased to baseline levels follow ...
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yep. time and persistence.   [End]
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thanks for the reply yes Iam taking 600 mcg of selenium a day with multi vitamin its gone again but I think it will come back since I just took another 2 (12.5) dose LOL shawn,   [End]
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The TSH can deviate quite a bit once beginning iodine.( TSH is a blood test that heps measure thryoid activity. The also check T4 and T3 values.) But it seems to acclimate over time. The amount of time is dependent on the person and only blood work can tell you exactly when it has recovered to baseline.   [End]
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no worries. it wil go back down. i would take a little break and do a bunch of vitamin C for a few days to let it settle down. as a male, 50mg of iodoral should be enough for a while to let your body acclimate to its new found riches in iodine. unless youre doing something specific which requires more. you ARE taking selenium, arent you?   [End]
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I started taking 75mg Iodoral starting yesterday, and today my goiter came back whatz up with that? still not fatigue tho for about 4 day in to taking Iodoral my goiter got little more tense and then all of a sudden I didnt have any so I thought it was gone but today, my goiter came back any one know what the deal is here, I been reading alot on this forum but I cant seem to find an answer to that Shawn   [End]
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It looks like I’m right in there. This is all so very interesting. After reading hundreds of posts the past month I’ve learned so much. Thanks again   [End]
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iodine deficiency knows no boundaries in the US, especially considering how much people move about. here are the most severe areas, also known as the goiter belt: [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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Where are the Iodine deficient areas in the US? Thanks   [End]
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”Many studies have shown that children who live in iodine deficient areas have lower IQ’s as compared to children living in iodine sufficient areas. A large analysis comparing children in iodine deficient and iodine sufficient areas showed a 13.5% difference in IQ score.” Dr. Brownstein, ”Iodine”, page 131   [End]
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Soils derived from granite seem to be generally deprived of minerals in general. Hard to say what soil samples (farm or forest) were used to determine the map. But from the map in your post you can imagine where the line of glacier had dropped down from the north. The maps of iodine deficient soil and the regions where walnut trees flourish seem to overlap only slightly in southern Michigan, northern Ohio, Indiana & Illinois and southern Minnesota, Wisconsin, (all goiter belt states), all of Iowa and parts of eastern Texas and Nebraska. Walnut tree range in U.S. Regional map ... [Image Embedded Here]
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So much for the iodine tree theory, from some of the Yankee territory at least. If I wanted to make tree iodine, I’d just get a gallon of 2% Lugols, mix in some walnut juice, maple syrup and some sorghum, possibly a little pineol, tea-tree oil, etc. and then PRESTO MAGICO. My Texas pecan ”tree iodine” is awesome Made my second batch last night from my neighbor’s tree. We’re lucky our soils aren’t iodine deficient as in the goitrous belt. I also have vine iodine, bush iodine (my favorite), wine iodine, and grass iodine.   [End]
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Isn’t this almost the same line that the MS group uses for the number of MS cases? I am going to try to find it and post. Maybe I better move back to Texas.   [End]
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no iodine in the soil = no iodine in the plants = no iodine in the people consuming plants from that region.... http://www.tsh.org/news/archive/iodine_deficiency.html The upper Midwest and Great Lakes regions were once known as the “Goiter Belt” because of the prevalence of enlarged thyroid glands that gave the afflicted visibly swollen necks. The goiter problem was widely noted during World War I when Army physicians recognized the condition in recruits. http://thyroid.about.com/cs/vitaminsupplement/a/iodine.htm In the U.S., for example, the area around the Great L ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Send her a bottle of Lugol’s 5% solution and a little info on taking it, and painting it on..she’ll try it:) Prism   [End]
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I’ve told her about iodine, sent her articles about fluoride...but I’ve been afraid to tell her I take Lugol’s iodine, cuz she’d probably freak out (this woman will call me & obsess over what I told her for years afterward...she’s really not OK mentally, and it’s stressful to me). I wonder how much the iodine would help her if she has all that metal in her mouth. I should tell her about Iodoral, though.   [End]
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Iodine, Iodine, Iodine for your mom..will she try it? If she is also overweight, that also is not good..all the health problems that one can get (you don’t need to get them as you age I’ve learned)is certainly from being deprived of many essential ingredients to the good life and health we should be experiencing. I would certainly start with Iodine, and build on that! You hit the nail on the head, with saying..”I don’t know, something struck me today that iodine is probably at the root of all this sleep apnea”. There is nothing an excellent dentist that uses the holistic and correct pro ...
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Your intuition is right on:) http://iodine4health.com/disease/thyroidisease/goiter/goiter.htm   [End]
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I was wondering if anyone has felt that iodine & companion nutrient supplementation has helped rid them of sleep apnea. I don’t think I have it, but my mom has it. My mom’s a mess...she’s had amalgam fillings since she was a kid & swears she can’t get them replaced because they are so huge. I wonder if that mercury & other metals got into me through the womb. I found this one post mentioning thyroid & sleep apnea: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=867655#i I don’t know, something struck me today that iodine is probably at the root of all this sleep apnea. I know of so man ...
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Thanks soo much for that message. I have been using iosol for a couple of months now, but I only use about 2 drops a day. My nodule has shrunken some, so I will try to increase the dose, and see what effects that has. I have also become warmer, and don’t need a sweater all the time. Thanks again.   [End]
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I had a goiter for 9 years, didn’t want surgery because it made no sense to eliminate the messenger. Many endocrinologists had no clue and didn’t think to explore the cause of the goiter. I always had normal blood tests. Finally I found a naturopath (after seeing 2 others who didn’t help) who recommended iosol, iodine in glycerin, which can be absorbed easily when put into water. The goiter disappeared! I take 5 drops of iosol twice a day in water, morning and night (total of 10). When I stopped taking the iodine I noticed a difference in the way I felt. I also take armour thyroid, ...
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Really? I’ve wondered about that for some time, every since I heard of the disease, but since I have never had the weight gain, I figured I was just slightly off, thyroidally speaking. I recently ran across a product called Thyroid Energy by Now Foods. I’ve ordered it to try. It seems to have many of the vitamins and nutrients that I’ve read will help revive the thyroid, including tyrosine. Has anyone else tried or heard of it? What do you think?   [End]
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sounds like classic Hashimoto’s to me - have an endocrinologist run your anti-TPO antibodies   [End]
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It goes after infections like nothing I have ever seen. It killed a fungus on my toenail and it appears to have healed a tooth that I was told needs a root canal. My dentist is skeptical, but all pain has gone. Time will tell.   [End]
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Thanks for the advice. Is the nutritional yeast okay if I’m also battling candida? I recently discovered that I have an intolerance to gluten, and then read that gluten-intolerance and thyroid issues are very closely linked. It went so far to suggest that anyone with thyroid issues should test to see if they are gluten-intolerant. In an article about subclinical gluten-intolerance and thyroid, it noted that for some peoole who adhered to the gluten-free diet for 3-6 months, the antibodies that result in the autoimmune attack against various glands/organs such as the thyroid, would actua ...
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i forget where i read this recently, i think it was on the andreas forum - the thyroid when it is deficient in iodine creates a goiter - an enlarged thyroid - to catch more iodine. i’ve recently diagnosed myself with hypothyroid, via the temperature technique - take the temp under your arm first thing in the morning, before you get up (yes, even before you go pee!). if the temp is 97.4 you’re thyroid is working ok, if its below 97.4, its low. mine was a full degree low. if you look below at rsudler’s notes to me, and to jackdaw’s, they gave really good advice to me. i started tak ...
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I have a goiter that I have had for over 14 years. In the past I have had it biopsied, ultrasounds performed, and had my blood checked. The last time was about a decade ago. Every time, all my levels were ’normal’ and I was written a prescription for synthroid. I tried synthroid for a few weeks once, but when I considered that my doctor told me that my blood work was normal, and that the synthroid would not necessarily reduce the size of my goiter, and that I would need if for life despite having no other sypmtoms, I stopped taking it. That was years ago. I still have the goiter. It seems ...
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