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On 4th day, lost appetite completely, help! lilards 19 y 5,733

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This is my first post...I have been fasting now since Wednesday so for 4 days and last night I had some very bad nausea and felt like I was going to throw up. I had taken some laxatives earlier that day, but did not have a bowel movememt until today and am wondering if this is normal, if I should be feeling worse, etc. I have nausea and am dizzy and my stomach feels a bit uneasy, but not terribly bad like last night. And as well, I have lost my appetite completely and have only had one juice today...is there anything that can get my appetite for juice back, should I be juicing different vegetables? I usually am juicing carrots, celery, cucumbers, peppers, and a few cranberries...I'm detoxing and plan to quit in 3 days, but am wondering what I should be expecting soon and why I have not experienced the coating on my tongue, or bad breath, etc. Thanks guys!

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- I think what your experiencing is normal. Everyone... emkay 19 y 5,660
  
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  I think what your experiencing is normal. Everyones detox process is different. On day 4 I felt like you. Currently I am on day 13 of a 30 day fast. Have some licorice or peppermint tea with honey ....
  
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  I think what your experiencing is normal. Everyones detox process is different. On day 4 I felt like you. Currently I am on day 13 of a 30 day fast. Have some licorice or peppermint tea with honey. It is very comforting and warm. It helps. Don't force yourself to drink juice if you can't stomach it. However, try some sweeter juices. Carrot is supposed to be fantastic for nausea and stomach problems, try mixing it half and half with apple. Your stomach problems may be a symptom of your body detoxing. It may also mean you aren't consuming enough calories. You can also try organic vegetable broth. It doesn't have any calories though, so you won't get any energy, but you may prefer it to juice. Take it easy and rest today. Your appetite will return don't worry.
  
  You are doing great. Is this a first time fast for you. This is for me. I have never done one before, so I am not an authority on symptoms, but I felt the same way.
  
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  - Thanks for your reply. Yes this is my first fast,... lilards 19 y 5,375
    
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    Thanks for your reply. Yes this is my first fast, and now I am on day 5. I am only doing it for a week because I just want to try it out and cleanse, just see how it goes. My stomach is feeling ....
    
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    Thanks for your reply. Yes this is my first fast, and now I am on day 5. I am only doing it for a week because I just want to try it out and cleanse, just see how it goes. My stomach is feeling a lot better now but I am very weak. I have been sleeping a lot, and I think that you were right that I am not drinking enough juice. I only had two drinks yesterday, and both were in the evening, so perhaps I will drink 3 or 4 today and see how I feel. Then just two more days and I'm done. Why are you fasting for 30 days? What kind of juices are you drinking most? Thanks so much for your help.
    
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    - Hey Lilards, WEll...Previously I was on antidep... emkay 19 y 5,297
      
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      Hey Lilards, WEll...Previously I was on antidepressants and having all sorts of benign health problems. I weaned of the antideps. and now I can feels those familiar feelings creeping back. I am ....
      
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      Hey Lilards,
      
      WEll...Previously I was on antidepressants and having all sorts of benign health problems. I weaned of the antideps. and now I can feels those familiar feelings creeping back. I am doing thirty days for weightloss, but predominantly to clean my body and see if this helps before I spend a lifetime on drugs. I want to see if I can do this myself. I have heard that deep healing occurs after 20 days, so here's hoping
      
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      - Well good luck - I’m happy to say that I am full o... lilards 19 y 5,224
        
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        Well good luck - I’m happy to say that I am full of energy today, in good spirits, and have already had two glasses of jouce and it’s only 5:30pm. So for me that is an accomplishment. Thanks for ....
        
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        Well good luck - I'm happy to say that I am full of energy today, in good spirits, and have already had two glasses of jouce and it's only 5:30pm. So for me that is an accomplishment. Thanks for the advice and I already know that this was a great advantage for me to do this so young...I'm 20 and I don't know if I had many toxins in my body to get rid of, not having the cold sweats, bad odor, and Acne that I have read about, but I definetely got rid of something the night of day 3 when I felt to sick. So a couple more days and I'll be back to normal eating, but I feel so much better about myself already! Good luck!
        
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      - For depression, consider adding omega-3 oils to yo... StillSearching 19 y 5,696
        
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        For depression, consider adding omega-3 oils to your juices
        
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        Terrific idea to use a juice fast to reset your body chemistry. Since so many folks with mood disorders are deficient in Omega-3 fatty acids, consider adding some omega-3 fats to the fast.
        
        This violates the "purity" of the fast, but it helps utilize the nutrients in the juices better. For instance, Beta Carotene needs to be eaten with some fat to assimlate properly. Same with other fat soluble vitamins.
        
        I mix 1/4 cup fresh ground flax seed into my juice and add a couple tablespoons of lecithin as well. The lecitin helps emulsify the fat and juice. The fiber in the flax helps me "go", but one could use flax oil instead.
        
        I make a thermos and take it to the office to drink small amounts throughout the day. Keeps me going, energized and happy. I especially like the green veggie juices, including broccoli, cabbage and kale. I mix them with lemon, and ginger or garlic to add some kick. Then I sweeten the mix with apple. When I drink it, I dilute to taste with filtered water.
        
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        Hi everyone!
        
        I know a lot about alternative medicine and wanted to give you a few tips on antidepressants.
        
        There are other things you can use! One is called 5-HTP and you can get this at your local health food store. It is derived from the seeds of a West African plant called Griffonia Simplicifolia. This supplement helps produce serotonin in the brain. Therefore, it helps with a wide variety of things like anxiety, depression, insomnia, sleep problems, food cravings and more!! My boyfriend and I have been taking it for 2 or 3 months now. We feel great! He has been on antidepressants in the past and said he had much better results with 5-HTP, as well as not experiencing any side effects. (It's natural so side effects will never happen) It is a fairly new supplement, (since 1994) so it is recommended to not exceed 300mg in a day and take breaks on it. I only take it when I'm feeling down, and usually take 2 in the morning, maybe 1 at lunch and 2 before bed. Even if I don't take it during the day, I usually take 2 at night. It really helps me sleep! (I live in a very noisy building) It usually comes in 50mg doses, so if you only take 5 in a day you still aren't exceeding 300mg/day. This isn't dangerous in any way, it is just recommended to use with caution, as long term use is still undetermined.
        Another to check out is SAM-E. If you want more info, check out the internet. It will tell you all you need to know. There is NO REASON to go back on drugs!!!! These are the things drug companies don't want you to know! They want people to be sick!
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- Re: On 4th day, lost appetite completely, help! herb-gal 19 y 4,948
  
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  its not safe to take laxatives in any form other than liquid. pills bad. make sure you use a laxative tea or some other such method to make sure you eliminate all the junk the fast is trying to flush out for you
  
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    Hi Herb-gal,
    
    I am on day seven of alternating days with juice and water. I wasn't "going" so I took an herbal pill last night. What might happen? Should I do anything?
    
    On previous fasts I tried the tea and thought it was the cause of my diarrhea.
    
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Passing 'Mucoid Plaque' WITHOUT Bentonite #25671 16 y 20,475

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It seems the only people passing "mucoid plaque" are those who use products containing Bentonite and psyllium. I've browsed the forums over a few years time and don't recall coming across anyone who has passed MP on a regular fast without Bentonite and psyllium.

Has anyone passed MP on a water, master cleanse, or juice fast while NOT using Bentonite and psyllium? If so, can you reply here and tell us about your experience? How many days did you fast before passing MP?

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  Hi, I am 14 days into my juice feast at the moment. I have used bentonite clay with psyllium husk before in conjunction with the juice and also with a 5 day water fast. Together with enemas I prod ....
  
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  Hi, I am 14 days into my juice feast at the moment. I have used Bentonite clay with psyllium husk before in conjunction with the juice and also with a 5 day water fast. Together with enemas I produced the traditional black strings of bowel shaped horrors (much to my amusment and facination)
  This time I have decided to just juice. I am using both fruit and green based juices and have been using enemas. I am still passing black stuff that smells the same as with the shakes but with out the structure. There is also lots of strings of mucus too. For the past few days I have not done an enema and I eventually passed a very dense black stool. I have wondered from time to time if what I pass is the collective residue from all the juices - even though I put them through nut milk bags they still retain micro particles. The shear amount of greens could contribute to the dark black colour in the finished product coming out the other end? I dont know. There definitly seems to be a large element of releasing stuff that dosent normally come out.
  
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  - Well, I am in the middle of a 60 day juice fast - ... LBD 13 y 19,289
    
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    Well, I am in the middle of a 60 day juice fast - watched Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead and decided to give it go. Anyway, on Saturday night (day 34) I had some bad lower back pain over my kidney reg ....
    
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    Well, I am in the middle of a 60 day juice fast - watched Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead and decided to give it go. Anyway, on Saturday night (day 34) I had some bad lower back pain over my kidney region as I was getting ready for bed, that night I could not sleep at all (which is very unusual) and I was also a little nauseous. The next day (Sunday) the cramps came and went throughout the day, at some points they were quite severe, varying from mild period pain to like labor pains radiating down the back of my thighs. I've had an ultrasound of my kidneys and apparently don't have any stones so I thought perhaps my bowel is releasing some gunk. So, I took some grapefruit fiber (about 1 tablespoon). On Monday, the same aches/cramps were coming and going and again I took 1 tablespoon of grapefruit to help sweep it out and also some magnesium. Today, Tuesday, in the morning I had to "go" and low and behold, wow some weird stuff came out that looks like the mucoid plaque pictures, very olive green and rubbery. The cramping pain is gone today and I think my body was trying to expel this stuff. I've taken the gf fiber on and off for years (as I'm allergic to psyllium) and have never passed anything like this before. Anyway, now I'm feeling great and haven't had any cramps since this bm this morning.
    
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- Re: Passing Mucoid Plaque WITHOUT Bentonite kp89 10 y 16,182
  
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  I know this message is pretty old, but I have been looking for answers today. A few months ago, I attempted a Paleo diet to help me lose some weight. It worked and I was definitely feeling some detoxing side affects. I didn't experience Mucoid Plaque though. I kind of fell off the wagon during the holidays and began eating processed foods again. A few days ago I began eating clean again (No processed foods, high fat diet). I take a multivitamin, CLA, fish oil, and my own prescriptions that help my hormone imbalance. This morning I passed, what I am assuming, is Mucoid Plaque. It was the strangest thing I had ever seen. I had no idea what it was. I tried googling different answers but came up with nothing. I even started to think it was a worm of some sort. But then I came across a picture that looked similiar to what I had seen and a quick google image search (more than I wanted to see before breakfast) but a relief to my mind. I am not taking any of the items used to detox. So I am curious how that worked.
  
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  This is a really old thread so not sure if anyone is going to see this. But, I began passing mucoid plaques WITHOUT FASTING OR USING ANY BETONITE CLAY OR OTHER CLEANSE PRODUCTS. Moreover, I never heard of mucoid plaques before I saw these strange ropey things in my stool which prompted an internet search.
  
  The plaques showed up after just one day of taking a Japanese probiotic called Myarisin. It contains clostridium butyricum, a bacterium which naturally produces butyrate.
  
  Possibly setting the stage for this outcome I have, for about one month prior, been taking spanish black radish to improve bile flow and doing one coffee enema per day.
  
  So, in my experience, I would say that mucoid plaque is something that already exists in the intestine and is not being produced by anything people are taking.
  
  I am neither on a fast nor a cleansing diet.
  
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  I have done it with a water fast. I’m not sure how healthy it was.... I started days 1-3 with tea temperature water in my favorite tea cup. I followed it with 3 cups of room temperature water ....
  
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  I have done it with a water fast. I'm not sure how healthy it was....
  
  I started days 1-3 with tea temperature water in my favorite tea cup. I followed it with 3 cups of room temperature water, same cup.
  I got the urge to chew, I chewed gum.
  Once I got my body used to the change in temperature of the water, my cup got bigger. The idea is to hydrate your insides so that they could start to work on their own to expel the contents. Human body is 98.6, so cold water would shock my insides and make it painful to not eat and be releasing. So my cups were either 22 or 32 ounces, depending on the cup holder I had that day, but I drank at least 3 to 4 full cups over the course of the day.
  Day 3 I got a headache, but I also incorporated activated charcoal into my intake with the warm water and I added fresh squeezed lime juice into the first big cup.
  
  What my rule was for liquids:
  If i drank lemon in a glass of water, I drank 3 more cups of water.
  
  No chilled water.
  
  No sugar, no honey. No sweetener.
  
  Day 4 I was weary from no food so my first warm water had lemon and the second cup was also warm. I took the activated charcoal with the third cup of water in the tea cup.
  *in the evenings, and at meal times, the warm water calms the tummy.
  
  I was constipated for 3 weeks prior to beginning the fast and full to the top of my neck with food, weighing 282 lbs, not even knowing when I was hungry.
  
  Day 5, my family got extremely concerned. So, I started my day just as the previous 4 days, but around 7 pm I drank 2 ounces of orange juice and 20 ounces of room temperature water and as close to 7 pm add possible I ate a small Caesar salad followed by a cup of warm water in a tea cup and a cup of room temperature water in the tea cup. I would do ab excercises to engage my muscles in the effort of passing the gas and matter. I also used a heating pad and warm compress on my tummy to soothe the gas. I started going by day 3 but saw my first sludge in day 5...I'm going to do it again sans juice subbing it with Sea Salt ...i lost 5 pounds a week for 8 weeks eating only mixed green salads, okra, Brussels sprouts and nothing spicy. Small portions though. (I ate 2 meals a day in a bowl the size of a toddler bowl once I reincorporated food into my system the first 3 weeks,{not over filled} adding a 3rd meal the 4th week)
  After day 5, I would begin the day as days 1-4, subbing the 2nd and 3rd tea cup with a larger cup of room temperature water (easier for me, but I just calculated drinking 4 cups) At least once a week, I ate okra and Brussels sprouts
  to jump-start my bowel movements. I lost 80 lbs in 5 months. I did change my diet to only vegetables, walnuts, and baked fish or boiled chicken. No vinegar and heavy garlic and ginger.
  
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  Hello, this is my first post. I chose to respond to this one because I can attest yes! it is possible to pass MP without anything other than some detox drinks and completely on accident. I didn’t ....
  
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  Hello, this is my first post. I chose to respond to this one because I can attest yes! it is possible to pass MP without anything other than some detox drinks and completely on accident. I didn't even know what it was yet. I was doing different types of cleanses, cinnamon cleanse, ginger cleanse and salt water cleanse after I quit smoking I thought "hell I can do anything!!" and went a little over board. Anyways, went to the restroom and BAM there was rope still coming out of me! I freaked! I gently removed it and it was about 15inches long. Then I started googling everything I could and came across some photos of what I pulled out of me and it was called (drumroll please Mucoid Plaque). I have been on a mission ever since to get the "rest" of it out of me!
  
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Hi all,

I posted about this at the curezone community forum a few days ago but I thought I'd put it here too - advice from anyone who has had this or similar happen would be much appreciated.

I'm on day 22 of a juice fast, fruit juices in the AM, vege ones in the PM, some vege broths and herbal teas, lots of water with himalayan Sea Salt and liquid minerals. I've done 2 Liver Flushes during this fast so far, both went off without a hitch, very productive and successful. I've had no hunger, no discernable detox reactions apart from minor skin outbreaks - I feel fantastic, lots of energy, great moods.

I went to my doctor on Friday about a pain I'd been experiencing (he didn't know what it was in the end, it's eased off somewhat over the weekend). During the visit I mentioned some slight stinging I'd been experiencing upon urination (which is also gone now), so he had me do a urine test.

Long story short, he found ketones, which I know are a result of the fast; and a lot of white blood cells - that's what has me puzzled and worried. He says it could be kidney related or urinary tract infection. It's gone to the lab and I'll have my results soon, but I just thought I'd ask - does anyone know what this is likely to have been caused by - and has it happened to any of you while fasting?? Don't know whether to stop the fast - I don't want to and I feel fine but would it be wise??

Also - I want to flush my liver again soon - provided it's not my kidneys - is this adviseable?

Many thanks in advance for replies,

Mel

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- Re: Anyone experienced kidney/urinary tract issues... teachtheword 18 y 7,340
  
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  I've not had a bladder infection but I did get a vaginal yeast infection. It's from hormonal changes due to fasting. I would prolong doing another liver fast. It's taxing on the body and your body needs time to heal the kidneys and bladder. Drink Drink Drink.
  
  Try juicing asparagus for the kidneys. It's very healing. I would juice cranberries for the bladder. You are probably too alkaline.
  
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  I had a UTI once during a fast. It was just backed up toxins trying to get out of the body. I drank an obscene amount of water and also added some grapefruit seed extract (just a few drops) to my ....
  
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  I had a UTI once during a fast. It was just backed up toxins trying to get out of the body. I drank an obscene amount of water and also added some grapefruit seed extract (just a few drops) to my juices. It lasted maybe a day and a half and was gone. Cranberry tea is also a good idea.
  
  Hope this passes quickly for you. :)
  
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    Excellent - thank you both very much for your replies. I have been drinking lots and using a lot of parsley tea, I’ll get myself some fresh cranberries. I’ll try the grapefruit seed extract. Th ....
    
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    Excellent - thank you both very much for your replies. I have been drinking lots and using a lot of parsley tea, I'll get myself some fresh cranberries. I'll try the grapefruit seed extract. The liver flush, I can hold off until this fast is finished. thanks again :)
    
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      Interesting. This past weekend I skipped meals and went through an unintentional fast which lasted for 3 days (28 hours fasting then I had a meal, then another 30 hours of fast, no planning at all), I was not hungry so I didn't eat, simple. Two meals in a period of 3 days. Then, now I'm experiencing this thing in the bladder, I have to pee every hour and half but the volume of urine is not high, and there's also foam with the urine (do you have it too? is your urine strong yellow and smelly also? I feel no pain at all though.) Anyways, it's interesting that there's a connection between fasting and aggravating bladder symptons, I think it's just the body getting rid of toxins, the best that I can do is drink lots of water and hold firmly during the ride.
      
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Hi,

Six days ago I completed a 32 day restricted juice fast (which went awesome by the way!). I broke the fast with raw fruit and veggies and am on day six of a total raw food diet. My intention is to start with 30 days 100% raw and then keep going, hopefully for the rest of my life. I have a question however, regarding my terrible reaction to eating. I'm not sure if this is a product of a sensitive digestive system because of the long fast, or other reasons.

I have experienced the worst constipation (about day 2 of the raw food/breaking the fast diet) of my life. I suppose I wasn't very smart and had a homemade raw trail mix made of raw cashews, raw sunflower seeds, raisins, and dates. I had a little too much and experienced severe gas, bloating, and the inability to evacuate.

Two days later, no nuts involved, I was very careful and had a mashed avocado (with a few spices to make guac) with 1 small sliced mushroom, 2 small vine tomatoes, and 4 pieces of cauliflower. I probably had more than I should have, I was a little too full afterwards, and then about 25 minutes later (roughly 6:30), I proceeded to experience the WORSE case of diarrhea of my entire life (complete with very foul burps). Finally, at 4:50 in the morning, I was able to fall asleep.

Today I was very careful, no more diarrhea, but I have had a sour stomach and each time I eat, I can feel the gas creating in my stomach. I am HOPING this is because my digestive system is overly sensitive from the fast, but I'm a little discouraged because raw food is supposed to digest easy.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much in advance.

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  Yep, sounds like you went a little overboard a little early there! (Bet you won’t do that again!!!) I have done long fasts (59 days last summer), and it is a whole different ball game reintroduc...
  
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  Yep, sounds like you went a little overboard a little early there! (Bet you won't do that again!!!)
  
  I have done long fasts (59 days last summer), and it is a whole different ball game reintroducing food, reestablishing digestion than it is with a 10 day cleanse... Hoo boy!
  
  Raw stuff can be particularly HARD to digest!
  
  One of my faves for breaking is a smoothie of papaya (or other fresh fruit) and yogurt (again, start with SMALL amounts, and SIP IT!!!) Very SMALL amount of raw salad, plus all the regular juices.
  
  Second day, soaked prunes or figs for breakfast, with the soaking water, small amount of good quality natural yogurt, no sugar, with a good culture... Make homemade vegetarian vegetable soup (easier to digest!) for lunch, easy on the salt!! Eat two apples between meals, slowly! Keep drinking the usual juices and broth.
  
  Third day, add a few raw nuts to breakfast, increase salad at lunch and add a baked potato. Have a slice of wholegrain bread and a small slice of cheese with soup for dinner.
  
  BIG ticket, add clean, solid food slowly! You have baby-clean digestion!
  
  My naturopath likes to have me take 1 tsp. metamucil (like baby food psyllium) plus 1 tsp. aloe juice in water before meals until digestion is well established.
  
  I can truly feel your pain on this one! Continue to take it easy, keep your colon clear and keep drinking lots of extra liquids.
  
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    Somer, Thanks for your response. I’ve tried to be careful--have had a few more disasterous days but I think I am on the other side of breaking the fast now. I read A LOT of information on raw f ....
    
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    Thanks for your response. I've tried to be careful--have had a few more disasterous days but I think I am on the other side of breaking the fast now. I read A LOT of information on raw food during the fast and am pretty convinced that I want to go 100% raw now. I was originally going to do 30 days raw as sort of a test, but I'm so so tempted to fast again--even if just for ten short days.
    
    The raw food is so good. But I think I'm having a lot of trouble establishing when I've had "enough." Like my stomach is full, but I want to keep eating because it tastes really good and it seems like I haven't eaten hardly anything at all. That will be something I will have to work out, I know.
    
    At any rate, is it unsafe to fast again? My husband is a little concerned that fasting again so soon is too much. I was thinking of starting on Monday. I don't have to transition into days of raw food because I have been totally raw since the end of my last fast! I've been on solid foods since February 3rd so by Monday it will have been 11 days.
    
    Thanks again for always being so incredibly helful and supportive! You are priceless!
    
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  Ouch! Sounds like you learned a lesson the hard way. Breaking a fast needs to go slow, starting with one mild fruit the first day, chewing it very thoroughly to encourage digestive juices to start secreting. Eat the same fruit, add another fruit and add one or two "above ground" vegetables the second day. Again, chew, chew, chew.
  
  I wouldn't add any food with oil until at least the fifth day. If you make a salad, use only lemon juice and herbs in the dressing.
  
  One needs to get the digestive system working and get enough bulk to let peristaltic action start up again before adding things with oils. You know your peristaltic action is functioning when you pass your first natural movement.
  
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A family member living in Europe have cancerous tumor on the left ovary.

Sne needs suggestions from those who have experience with similar problem.

She is 75 years old, and was just diagnosed a few days ago, after more than one month of different tests and scanning.
She felt and new it was cancer already in January.

This is what she has been doing since january and is also doing today:

- Iodine painting on the belly skin (started in January)

- she consumes seaweed for extra minerals (selenium, boron , iodine) (she consumes japanese seaweed like kombu, wakame, arame, nori) (started in february)

- unrefined Sea Salt (was always part of her diet, she is diet conscious)

- Budwig diet (flaxseed oil + cottage cheese blend with some cayenne and paprika) (started in february)

- fresh vegetable juices, made fresh at home, (Breuss diet and Gerson diet ) (started in January)

- some ocean fish occasionally (always part of her diet)

- calf liver cooked or baked occasionally for extra vitamins (started in january, but was occasionally a part of her diet before)

- chicken soup occasionally (always part of her diet)

- laughing, watching funny videos every day (started in January)

- taking walks in the nature, sunshine

- psychotherapy

- zapper (some Russian type of zapper)

She has ascites, ( accumulation fluid in the abdominal (peritoneal) cavity).

Doctors have removed 2,5 liter of water 3 weeks ago.

She is against vitamins and minerals in pill form, and prefer to get it from natural foods like seaweed , animal liver , ocean fish, unrefined Sea Salt etc.

Doctors have not yet come up with a suggestion on how to treat it.

She has Colloidal Silver maker and will be making Colloidal Silver and will be dipping a tampon into the Colloidal Silver and keeping it inside vagina.

I need a few more ideas what she could do at home.

Any suggestions ?

Any survivors with personal experience ?

Thanks

Eric

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  Cannabis is highly illegal in her country, so Cannabis oil is very expensive and hard to get.
  But, she is considering it.
  
  She has some experience with liver flushing, parasites cleansing, bowel cleansing from years ago, but have not been flushing lately.
  
  She will be reading your suggestions here.
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  - Women suffer from terrible problems caused by iodi... grizz 7 y 3,429
    
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    Women suffer from terrible problems caused by iodine deficiency, mainly fibrocystic breast disease (FBD), Ovary cysts (PCOS), Uterus problems, and 15 x more thyroid problems than men AND RELATED C ....
    
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    Women suffer from terrible problems caused by Iodine deficiency, mainly fibrocystic breast disease (FBD), Ovary cysts (PCOS), Uterus problems, and 15 x more thyroid problems than men AND RELATED CANCERS. Men also suffer with testicular & prostate problems, & related cNCERS.
    
    I suggest that she immediately begin the Dr. Brownstein Iodine protocol which has proven to be successful against cancers. Here is my research on this subject:
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      Thanks Grizz! She is researching the Dr. Brownstein Iodine Protocol. She is already painting Iodine on the skin of her abdomen, but have not tried it orally. Eric
      Thanks Grizz!
      
      She is researching the Dr. Brownstein Iodine Protocol.
      
      She is already painting Iodine on the skin of her abdomen, but have not tried it orally.
      
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      - Painting on the skin is ineffective. Fully 85% is ... grizz 7 y 3,102
        
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        Painting on the skin is ineffective. Fully 85% is lost to evaporation, and only 15% is absorbed. Further, painting the same skin every day can cause serious skin problems. The recommended iodine i ....
        
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        Painting on the skin is ineffective. Fully 85% is lost to evaporation, and only 15% is absorbed. Further, painting the same skin every day can cause serious skin problems. The recommended Iodine is Lugols liquid 5% or iodoral tablets 12.5mg or 50mg, to be taken with the recommended co-supplements. Most important is 200mcg selenium that must always be taken with Iodine to prevent potential problems with the thyroid. Iodine without selenium can result in hyperthyroid or hashimotos.
        https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IzFKo-r2-Nn8_z0KUrOhHdlanzSuhkuV3QO03XF6YTY/edit#
        
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        Hi Grizz,
        thanks for the info.
        
        She has now purchased Lugol's Iodine 2%, selenium and vitamin d liquid and is starting the Dr. Brownstein's protocol.
        
        Her Iodine levels were low (blood test) , but not very low.
        
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        Blood cannot be used for measuring low iodine levels, you must use this ”Iodine Loading Test” instead: https://www.hakalalabs.com/resources/ More on iodine: https://sites.google.com/site/iodi ....
        Blood cannot be used for measuring low Iodine levels, you must use this "Iodine Loading Test" instead:
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        More on iodine:
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    Eric, if she does not like to take vitamins in pill form, let me recommnd The Gerson Diet.
    
    Eric, if she does not like to take vitamins in pill form, let me recommnd The Gerson Diet.
    
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    My family member died today.
    
    None of the alternative therapies were able to stop the growth of the ascites, or the progress of her cancer.
    Cancer diets she tried, hyperthermia, Iodine protocol, herbal remedies, none of those have had any significant effect on the progress of her cancer.
    She was slowly loosing the battle, and loosing apetitt, regardless of what she was trying.
    
    She was slowly loosing the strength, the muscles and the fat tissues.
    
    She opted not to accept surgery or chemo, due to poor prognoses considering her age and low weight and the type of cancer.
    
    Surgery and chemo would generally mean more suffering for her.
    
    Stil, I think it is important to mention that she died at home, with no pain, with love of family members around her.
    
    During the last several weeks, she has almost totally lost her appetite, and was living on a few teaspoons of water only.
    
    The soul left her body in peace, no suffering, no pain, no stress.
    
    She is now with her ancestors.
    
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I have fasted for twenty-two days before and recently it is two days and three days last month, but I now find it hard to fast and cannot help eating everyday due to cravings. How to have the motivation to fast?

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  Today will be day one. I know I am not good at this and fail every single day for many months, but here I humbly am, starting at day one, and I know I might fail again. But once I start this thing, there is no going back. The cravings have been the hardest. They are the single most challenging thing in my life. I am not addicted to sugar, to p 0 r n, to sex, to video games, but I am addicted to eating every single day. I do not know how the next forty-eight hours are going to turn out but I start my fast officially now. I will be back in this thread every single day to tell you how I have been faring and whether I have eaten. I usually start eating around noon so if I come back to say that I did not eat in the morning, it should be no big deal. If I say I did not eat at noon. I might eat in the afternoon so I guess I should check back several times a day. My unbroken record is twenty-two days in 2011 spring. Hoping to beat that record. I guess my motivation to fast is just curezone. I just brushed my teeth for the night and the last few things I ate were bananas, tofu strips, chocolate, and peanut butter bars. When I have cravings I will just come here.
  
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    It is so weird. Every time I ate today was because I was reading this book called Sappho. I better not risk eating again and do some other activity where I didn’t eat immediately after starting. I ....
    
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    It is so weird. Every time I ate today was because I was reading this book called Sappho. I better not risk eating again and do some other activity where I didn't eat immediately after starting. I will go copy down a chapter from my old biology textbook. Ooooh, the circulatory system! Then I will watch Scishow videos on YouTube. I better meditate at least one more time tonight. But no Sappho book for me.
    
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      Jus finished meditating. All my meditations sitting cross-legged are thirty minutes long and involves a tape. The tape is for tapping in to the master's energy and build a connection to him. I can only do the single lotus, where only one leg is up. When I lose twenty pounds, I will be able to do the double lotus. Can't wait.:-D Wish I could meditate repeatedly but my legs will hurt so I'll have to wait two hours to do the next meditation. On to Science videos. :-)
      
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        Watched more than an hour of scishow and took a shower. I wonder whether this is easy to fast because it is night time or because I have just eaten about five hours ago. Now going to listen to guided meditation for chakras on YouTube. Not sure when I will sleep because it is arbitrary every night. Sometimes I fall asleep in the middle of the first video. Sometimes I sleep at six a.m.
        
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      Use EFT and set up a day in the near future to start the fast. Every day prior to that day you use the EFT as often as you can to reinforce your intention to fast starting on that d ....
      
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      Use EFT and set up a day in the near future to start the fast.
      
      Every day prior to that day you use the EFT as often as you can to reinforce your intention to fast starting on that day. You can include the length of the fast, and what kind of a fast it will be. Doing this you have already decided on what you are going to do. You've removed any doubt from the start a couple of days in advance.
      
      I find it easier to start in the morning after being without food for the previous night.
      
      Every time you feel hunger coming on, you do EFT and reinforce your intention to fast.
      
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    Is it the beginning of winter right now where you live?
    
    It is far more difficult to fast during winter, especially at the beginning of winter, cause human body is programmed through millions of years to put weight on during autumn and beginning of winter, to have reserves to survive long and called winter.
    
    It is far more easy, and also far more natural to fast during the spring time and during summer, because our bodies are naturally programmed to eat less and to lose weight during those months.
    
    That may be the reason why you have difficulties fasting right now, if it is winter beginning where you are.
    
    Your body is simply telling you that you are doing something unnatural.
    
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      Yes it is beginning of winter where I live but who knows, curezone might finally be the right motivation for me to fast. Thanks for letting me know this interesting piece of information.
      Yes it is beginning of winter where I live but who knows, curezone might finally be the right motivation for me to fast. Thanks for letting me know this interesting piece of information.
      
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The result has been...I want more...lots more!

Where else can I get it? Plant juices are distilled waters too!

I’ve wanted to do this for a very long time. But something has held me back.

I know that I personally feel my best when I eat nuts&seeds or an avocado, as well as seaweed EVERY day.

The fats make me satisfied the whole day, and the seaweed makes my PH steady.

I still go through periods of heavy detox. The seaweed min ...
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It's been exactly 1 month since I went on 'banana island'. Within hours I had a major sinus and bladder infection. Bananas are way too much Sugar for me!

Well, I still have a teeny bit of infection! I used h2o2 to wipe out both, but it comes back. Why?

Because I have massive Sugar cravings! I went from 99+% raw, eating teeny bits of non-raw like gluten free soy sauce, wasabi, organic salad dressings, cacao powder, ect.

But after banana island, candida has made me crave chocolate, icecream, potato chips ect.
This is very uncomfortable! And I empathize with all you out there with candida issues and cravings!

Because I've been eating more fat/salt and sugar, my blood Sugar is too high. So candida infections are blooming.

But it just so happens, this week my fruit wholesaler was closed! So I have no fruit in our house. This is a great time to do a 3-4 day green juice fast!

Starting today, I will use up all my veggies, (some whole, but mostly as juice).
I have never done a juice fast, so I'm taking it slow :)

I will go for my walks, stretching and get extra rest.

I have pimples in almost the same spot, mirrored on my bladder meridians on my face.

I need to step up my detox, squash my cravings, and go back to 99+% raw!

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