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Hi guys,
I am back after a long time without post at curezone forum.
I just uploaded my new video showing how to produce golden colloidal silver following an advanced method with step-by-step instructions.
It is much more detailed than my previous videos on the subject and was improved to cover the most frequent asked questions.
It is hard to talk about a definitive guide for colloidal silver production, but it was made with that in mind.
The video is available in two languages, but has been made to be as neutral as possible regarding language to be easier for everybody.
Brazilian Portuguese version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1VaEVVJxyY
English version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-7XpxfG4FI
Hope this will be helpful for those that are seeking advice on how to produce a golden high quality colloidal silver, and for those that are frequently teaching how-to.
The video is not commercial and is not-for-profit. I do not sell anything. I do not recommend any seller.
Cheers!
Esstee
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Hi Grizz,
I would add that while the idea of using resistance to control current is not new, that the use of a potentiometer(variable resistor) does help avoid some of the pitfalls that come with fixed resistors.That said, the downside to using resistors, however, is where these affect the voltage across the electrodes as this would enter the prerequisites of the electrochemical production of CS - see: Electrolysis and the electrochemical series
Therefore, and with that in mind, an ideal circumstance would be to use a constant current source so as to maintain voltage throughout processing. That is to say, that while the current can be adjusted, that the voltage would not change across the electrodes(excluding the voltage drop under load). Which can be accomplished in one of several ways;
Hope this helps
RE: I do have a question. With your experience on diodes, will the same 1 milliamp diode work equally well with a 24 volt power supply as with a 48 volt supply? Will it still limit the current to 1 milliamp with either supply voltage?
I would answer yes.
I have pushed 1 mAh diodes as high as 60v without issue. Though I'd add that there are limits to what a diode can withstand in terms of total wattage(V x A). And so it's important to outline this prior to experimentation. ie, as the conductivity of the cell increases, the voltage required to carry the amperage is reduced proportionally. Though I'd also add that the voltage must not fall bellow the minimum requirements for electrolysis. Otherwise, the electrolysis process will no longer work as intended.
RE: However I do take issue with this statement: "Though from what I can see, the problem of the constant voltage across the electrodes appears to remain."
Sorry for the confusion. The issue is not with constant voltage, but rather with variable voltage that could potentially fall under the minimum requirements for the electrolytic reaction.
RE: as the current goes up, the voltage across the electrodes must come down.
This is true, and I can see where the confusion could come from. ie, a voltage drop, and a drop in voltage(very confusing). That said, the difference between a resistor and /or potentiometer and a constant current circuit(for example), is where the potentiometer will lower the voltage along with the current(proportionate). Whereas a constant current regulator will only affect the current and not the voltage. Now I can see where this might lead to confusion as there is also a voltage drop across the electrodes under load. Though the difference here is that both the potentiometer and the load will have an effect on voltage. And so the conclusion is that the voltage has a greater potential of falling bellow the minimum requirements in this case. - to which I'd add, and to be fair, this is entirely speculative, as I have not done any formal testing to measure whether this is indeed the case or not.
Hope this helps.
PS. I might conduct a few tests between each of the circuit types this evening. - if so, I'll post my results
One thing that's very confusing are CS generators manufacturers claims about particle size. Low current, larger electrodes etc make for smaller particle sizes.
But these machines are ionic silver makers, meaning no particle size to speak of. Are these claims just for the 5%-15% particles that are also generated or agglomerated? And does that really make a significantly difference?
Trying to figure out if it's really worth a couple hundred extra which it would be if the end product was noticeably more potent. Especially for internal use.
Where's Quixote when we need him..lol
I love the results where the laser beam can barely be seen in a dark room for 20ppm silver, where 20ppm is confirmed by a calibrated Hanna PWM Meter compared to a known 20ppm solution of CS.
The CS I make is clear @about 10PPM according to my TDS meter shows a solid laser light in a dark room.
I also take it sublingual for internal directly into the blood. I don't know why anybody wouldn't want it to enter damaged cells.
"The correct question is how much of the solution is Ionic (AG+) or simply particles with no charge (AG)."
Ionic silver are not complete atoms of silver and therefore are not silver particles. The 1% to 10% of colloidal particles in the mix are the only effective particles.
"I've also read that binding ionic silver into particulate clumps isn't the same as Colloidal Silver particles - and less effective because of the charge."
>>> This only happens when you run too much current through the solution, causing large silver clumps to break off of your silver wire. The laser beam shines BRIGHTLY in a lighted room, and the color turns yellow or even brown. We call this Silver MUD.
Actually I meant the remaining particles in the mix of our ionic silver batches. And perhaps also the ionic silver that uses a reducing agent to form what they call "colloidal silver". Some say it's regular colloidal silver, others call it "protein colloidal silver" (with huge particles and can actually spread bacteria), or agglomerations of ionic silver.
Yes confusing as H*ll and made worse by manufactures creating most of the informational content that is insanely contradictory.
RE: Using electrolyte (non-toxic sodium carbonate and distilled water stops the silver plating to the cathode.
I'd like to touch on some points in your comment as it appears to confound the quality of a CS solution with processing methods.
Though before I begin, I'd like to point out that while it is true that electrolyte will alter the plating characteristics in an electrolytic cell, that the cathode will plate nonetheless. Which you yourself can verify by using a copper cathode and observing the changes that take place throughout processing.
Beyond this I'd add that it has been my observation that the use and admission of additives in the productions of Colloidal Silver has proven to be less than substantial on numerous fronts. The first being that the reduction process does not live up-to the claim, in that if we subject the solution to the table salt test, it will precipitate in the very same way that the none reduced solutions will. To which I'd, add the author and maker of the Silvertron claimed would not be the case in one of his blog entries.
In continuing, if we subject the same chemically reduced solution to HCl, the disassociation times differentiating both solutions will be mere seconds. Though above all, both solution will disassociate nonetheless.
Therefore and with that being said, the question of what advantages come from the admissions of additives in the production of Colloidal Silver comes up. ie, if we conclude that the reactive properties of Colloidal Silver are due in part with the ionic interchange of the cell, then the question as to what rational we'd apply to justify the reduction of the ionic properties of a particular solution comes up.
Taking things further, if we conclude that the use and admission of a Colloidal Silver solution is most effective when taken transdermaly, then why take measures to move the composition further from this domain?
My take on this is that the maker of the Silvertron generator did what many people have done in this business in that he devised an idea that he believed would help overcome some of the known issues associated with the use of Colloidal Silver in humans. However, I'd also add, that while his intentions were likely genuine, that the fact remains that he has not published any research of data to justify his beliefs.
And so with all that being said, the question as to what a good Colloidal Silver solution is, comes to mind.
Is it one that takes part in a process requiring additives and spontaneous color changes? Or that of reduced cathode plating?
Fortunately, I believe the proof is much simpler than some would have us believe. IOW. the inherent quality of a Colloidal Silver solution is determined by its effectiveness. And while there have been numerous tests and experiments carried out on the internet over the years, it seems that the best evidence remains that of the the testimonials from those using it. :)
Hope this helps.
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