Thanks for the added details. One common cause for concentration limitations is due to auto-shutoff. However, and since this is not your case we must look at other factors to explain your results. With that said, the next point of interest would be the electrical characteristics of the generator itself - such as the voltage and current ratings under load. Following this, I’d consider your configuration details such as; total amount of distilled water, electrode configuration; total wetted surface area and distance between electrodes. Beyond this, here are a few ideas off the top ...
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Colloidal Silver is unstable, and would likely react with the metals surface of an ultrasonic humidifier. With that said, it is likely that particles left at the bottom of a reservoir could be due to colloidal silver either; dropping-out or plating and precipitating over time with use. Though I wouldn’t worry about such things either way, as this would not likely affect the effectiveness of the CS being breathed-in - assuming that the CS is in fact renewed with every use.   [End]
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Typical TDS meters don’t really measure colloidal silver - I know alot of sellers say this, but that’s mostly due to confusion. Having said that, there are a few factors to consider before drawing a conclusion on your results. The first question I’d ask is whether or not your generator shuts-off at a given point in processing? The second thing I’d ask is whether or not the solution is showing any signs of color change? With that said, the next questions will depend on the above answers.   [End]
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I’d recommend using CDS instead of MMS for topical applications, as the acid will likely cause more grief than relief. With that said, and in the event that you do not know what CDS is, you can google; how to make CDS using the shotglass method The instruction can be found in the first PDF document PS. if you’re intent on getting better absorption into the skin, you could consider adding a drop (LITERALLY 1 DROP) of DMSO to your solution - this will improve the trans-dermal effectiveness of the CDS.   [End]
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Glad to be of assistance - you appear to be well on your way. If you have any other questions or concerns, please don’t hesitate to ask.   [End]
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Thanks for the clarification on the potentiometer. You can control current with a resistor(or Potentiometer) by wiring the resistor in parallel as opposed to the more common series in a circuit. In addition to this, and since the principal of a CS generator is so very basic, I'd encourage you to assemble a reliable generator first, to work toward more permanent solutions afterwards This way, you can gain a better understanding of the principal of a DC electrolysis generator, to apply toward your design improvements.    DIY - Colloidal Silver ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Hi maxo, I’ll do my best to help you with this. The first thing to note, is that a current regulating diode is quite unique, in that it can easily limit current without affecting voltage. Which is great for colloidal silver making, and can greatly simplify things, as you yourself are experiencing now. With that said, a resistor on the other hand, can affect both the current and the voltage depending on how it is wired-up. Having said that, and before offering any more advice, would I be correct in assuming that the potentiometer you’re using is a 1 Meg Ohm potentiometer?   [End]
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RE: here are my interests with features and capabilities as of now: -simple use/maintenance -durability and quality -of the smallest particle size range -reputable in community -budget friendly   A. Unfortunately, I am rather inept when it comes to generators as I chose to go the DIY route nearly a decade ago and have not ventured into the generator market as a result .  With that said, and based on my own limited experience, I’d say the Silvertron is the most advance generator I know of in terms of function and versatility.  No cl ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Do you use the term Colloidal Silver interchangeably for other types such as ionic silver? 1. Test whether the solution is colloidal: place a condensed light or laser through the solution, if you see a Tyndall effect, then you have a colloidal solution 2. Determine whether or not the solution contains silver - ie, was it made with pure silver? 3. Then decide what you want to call it :)   Why not call it Ionic Silver:  Some people prefer to call it Colloidal Silver, as this was the original name given to the solution from the beginning.  Though that doe ...
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Hi Carty3, First off, I’m terribly sorry to hear about your illness. Your health situation sounds reminiscent to my own in the not-so distant past. With that said, I’d begin by stating that I really don’t think 2 tspns a day is going to do much in terms of regaining your health based on what you’ve written. In fact, I’d go as far as to say that any CS taken in such amounts will likely be wasted, as it won’t raise the levels of silver your blood high enough to overcome the effects of the illness. ie, In a worst case scenario, when people take Colloidal Silver to treat serious illnes ...
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RE: I continued to be frustrated in my experiments to control particle size while attaining high levels of ionic content. A. Hi abeland1, I may be able to lend a hand on controlling your ionic /particulate ratio, as well as with particle size. Though I’d add that this will require investing in some equipment.   [End]
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RE: You say you are not a chemist. Neither are you a biologist and neither apparently do you have any experience with, or knowledge of, how Colloidal Silver works inside the body. A. I’d first question who has knowledge of how Colloidal Silver works inside the body, and what studies we could reference on this. RE: Instead, ionic solutions which are sold commercially or made at home have silver particles which typically range in size from 15 nanometers and up. A. While I believe that compounds such as silver oxides could easily measure or exceed 15nm, it remains this would not encomp ...
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Thanks for chiming-in Paul D. I was beginning to wonder if my comments were so poorly written that they were incomprehensible. And so I’m relieved to see someone acknowledge some of the statements made in my posts. In short, it would appear that my friend somehow misunderstood the initial criticism. And that he appears to have confirmed my point in his closing statement. To which I’d add, the issue(from what I can see), is not one of whether or not a process can produce nano-sized particles, but more specifically, whether these can prove to be better than silver ions based on part ...
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RE: I don’t know where you get your figure of an average silver particle being 15 nanometers. A. This was intended as a baseline for metal particles. Though not as a measure for the size of nano-particles accomplished in any given process. RE: The diameter of a silver ion is 0.252 nanometers ... A: I think we could proceed with such a figure. RE: ...Utopia-Silver or Mesosilver, whose particles have been measured to be as small as 0.65 nanometers and below in diameter and which average far less than 15 nanometers in diameter... A: I think we could also proceed with these figure ...
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RE: 2 1/2 the diameter of a single silver atom. A. That is precisely my point Tony. A silver ion is approximately 0.33nm in dia. which is much smaller than 2 -1/2 times the size of an atom. And so here again, the point is that there is no way for a silver particle(elemental) to be either; equal-to, or smaller than silver ions, as this would imply subatomic particles, of which I’m of the opinion that you are not in favor of - see: ionic silver solutions 1. The diameter of a single silver ion is 0.33nm 2. The diameter of an average silver particle is approximately 15nm, or, 45x larger ...
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RE: ”No electrolysis method can produce particles even 1/100th as small, and most not even 1/1000th as small as the production methods they employ and particle size is a key to Colloidal Silver effectiveness” A: I think you misunderstood the reasoning behind my statement regarding ions and particles. ie, if we conclude that low voltage electrolysis produces ionic silver, then it logically follows that there can be nothing smaller in terms of particle size this side of physical matter. Therefore, the notion that another process could somehow produce anything smaller is not very likely at a ...
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Question1: Why would spend hundreds of thousands of dollara and why would Purest Colloids (Mesosilver) spend half a million dollars on their equipment... Answer1: We’ve covered this particular question in the past, and so I’ll simply expand on my previous sentiment on this. In short, people invest money to make money. And is the reason why your partner owns a business today. Which I think we can all agree would seem like a rather obvious question and answer. Question2: ...if they could make a silver solution that was even close to as good as theirs at a tiny fraction of the cost us ...
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Hi abeland1, I think you’d be correct on the use/or addition of a potentiometer to current control in Colloidal Silver circuit. Though keep in mind that a resistor will not only limit current but voltage as well, and that this could add a challenge to the startup phase, as the voltage is one of the main properties used to overcome the limited conductivity of the cell - if this makes any sense In addition to this, and I don’t mean to pick on this particular idea, though I can think of another challenge that could come from the use of a potentiometer in that it would not allow for rep ...
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Hi Paul D, The main portion of the test consisted of live cultures involving nine(9) commercial Colloidal Silver brands along with three(3) home-brewed product variants. All of which were subject to measurements of rate(time) and efficacy(count). Each iteration was was carried out using three(3) active samples along with three(3) control samples to reduce the risk of cross-contamination and other external factors. All tests were conducted under an SCC Accredited lab and work practices. With that said, each of the products were measured for total ppm through spectrometry, whereas th ...
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Utopia-Silver bread/mold test To be as fair as possible, I’ll conduct a bread/mold tests as well and post my results along with some of my previous test data for your review. In addition to this, I’ll be sure to include other brands in the experiment so as to promote a fair and balanced review - after which, I’ll follow-up with a link to the documented experiment and results afterwards. NB. While searching for the Utopia-silver bread /mold test in the forums, I discovered that over 93% of the 640 results relating to Utopia-Silver came from yourself and your wife. All of which appear ...
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Utopia-Silver test results Dquixote1217, as per your past recommendations, I took the liberty of testing Utopia-Silver samples from two different sources in the not-so recent past, only to find that the product did not measure-up to its DYI counterparts. In short, it was my observation that the product proved inferior in both; antibacterial and low pH persistent applications. Now, to be fair, I’d add that this is not to say that Utopia-Silver was any worst than other competing product on the market, in that, many(if not most), of the products in the testing performed quite poorly ag ...
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I know what your meaning on the costs of silver wire - as I too have contemplated the same - though I think the stainless cathodes reference stemmed from another setup in-where the anode was consisted of 6 x 8gauge silver rods, whereas the cathodes were stainless to help cope with wire-size shape and sizing as well as costs. And so, I’m leaning toward a typo insofar as the BOM goes on this particular setup. As for pricing, I see the very same pattern in our own health food sections. ie, the last time I looked, I found clear Colloidal Silver labeled as 50ppm going for 65 dollars CAD. Wh ...
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NB. The meters shown in the diagram are currently valued at; $3.26 USD on eBay On the matter of the circuit, I should have noted that this particular design is not the most basic, but more specifically, aimed at DIY’ers looking for added telemetry and repeatability in processing. And so I’ll definitely look into putting something simpler together for the less technically inclined. With that said, you’ve raised some good points and I’d like to thank-you for taking the time to share your views and observations on this.   [End]
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RE: ...an acceptable cathode other than silver would have to be more expensive to keep from putting substances in the water that are not helpful. A. What’s interesting with the cathode is where it provides no electrodeposition whatsoever in the process. And that a precious metal such as gold(for example) would only end-up being plated after only a few runs. The use of a stainless cathode however, is mainly a cost alternative to silver. And can prove advantageous in terms of retaining its shape where smaller gauges are concerned. Whereas a material such as copper(for example) while pr ...
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RE: ... the setup uses only silver wire on the anode side but not the cathode side? A. That’s a good observation. The stainless cathode was likely part of a cost driven setup. And so I’ll edit the parts list in future posts to avoid confusion. RE: If that were the preferable method, why does virtually every other electrolysis type Colloidal Silver generator (actually ionic silver) use silver for both? A. For simplicity, I’d say the ideal would be the use of silver all around, as this would eliminated the potential for mismatching electrodes. Though it remains that the cathode has ...
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Here’s a little CS tool to help perform some of the basic current and ppm calculations. The time calculations are crude in that they do not account for ramp-up times, though for the most part, it can prove quite accurate with seeded or regulated processing.  [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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DIY Basic Colloidal Silver Generator - with advanced monitoring Parts List: 3 x Disposable OR Rechargeable 9v batteries 3 x 9v battery terminal connectors w/ leads 1 x Pack of grey twist on wire connectors - 22-16 GA AWG 1 x Current limiting diode - based on Anode calculation 2 x Digital Multimeter 2 x 10 to 15" Alligator clip extension leads Approximate cost w/o stirrer: $30.00 USD 1 x Magnetic Stirrer 1 x 20mm Magnetic Stir Bar Cost with stirrer: $90.00 USD   Additional tools: Nippers or hobby cutters Wire strippers, ...
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I hate to admit it, but this is precisely why groups like the FDA were formed - and so now, we’re left with the lesser of two evils - a government oppression vs the snake-pit of scammers. Both of which are driven by profits. Having said that and on behalf of the Spooky 2, last I looked they had disclaimers averting all medical merit, stating that none of their machines held claims or promises beyond that of the experimental realm - Which in my books is about as honest as your going to get in this business PS. I’m not against the concept of electrotherapy, in fact, I’d go as far as ...
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Best approach would be to test it out   [End]
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Is the kidney failure stable? If not you may want to tread carefully so as to avoid adding undue stress to the kidneys. ie, in my opinion, Colloidal Silver could potentially reduce toxins and load on the kidney’s though it would be important to have a reliable baseline from which to establish whether the treatment is either, helping or exacerbating the issue. Which could lead to making things worst. PS. pay no attention to the naysayers, in this particular realm of treatment, we just don’t know if a treatment will prove helpful unless we try it.   [End]
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Actually, the Beck electrifier can disrupt heart normal rhythm in certain users when setup in a wrist to wrist configuration. To which I’d add, I’ve experienced myself as I was able to induce what felt like heart palpitations. In addition to this, I experimented with the frequencies and found that the disruption only appeared to take place up to about 8Hz in my own case, after which the effect seemed to disappear. Though I suspect this could vary for others   [End]
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RE: 4 hertz causes the blood cells to absorb too much of the drugs. A. What evidence would you cite to demonstrate that 4 hertz causes the blood cells to absorb too much of a drug?   [End]
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Please stop spreading disinformation. There are no reports of properly made Colloidal Silver rapidly accumulating to dangerous levels in the blood anywhere - this is mere fabrication What we do have however, are reports of people taking Colloidal Silver multiple(3 to 4) times daily for over 7 years(none stop) without any side effects whatsoever.   [End]
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Having tried Mesosilver along with a host of other products, I’ve come to the conclusion that the best solutions are the DYI products. - fresh is best type reasoning With that said, and while I have not tested the solution in question, the following statements did stand out for me; ”Nano Silver colloidal silver has a metallic taste to it because it’s real colloidal silver. If colloidal silver has no taste then its not colloidal silver” And the issue with this is where the metallic taste found in Colloidal Silver solutions seem to be predominantly due to the presence of silver ox ...
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RE: You cannot argue with 11 years of a company providing quality High PPM Colloidal Product on the open market for 11 years. A. This may surprise you, but the truth is people can, have and will continue to challenge disingenuous product claims from companies regardless of age or history. RE: If this was fraudulent as you accuse, they would have gone under along time ago. A. Here again, reality tells us that the market is filled with product scams that are either persistent or continuously resurfacing over the years. And so this is more a case of coming to terms with the facts ...
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RE: 2. These large particles not only can get stuck in the kidneys and organs but are also METALLIC, when in the stomach, the Hydrochloric acids mix with the metals and create chemical compounds that are not good for the body, that is where the known reported side effects have originated. A. When chemical compositions undergo changes such as reduction or oxidation, its net properties are consequentially lost in the process. Therefore and with that being said, the claim that a large particle solution will promote kidney accumulation demonstrates a lack of understanding in basic chemistry ...
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Tough to say without knowing exactly how the solution was made; ionic to particulate ratio type thing That said, my best guess would be that the CS is reacting with the different compositions of saliva throughout your digestive tract. ie, pH changes across the digestive tract could cause the CS to interact and /or undergo reduction, thus causing a change in taste. Another possible explanation is where the CS could interact with something like oral thrush for example, which is known to reside in higher concentrations further back on the tongue toward the throat. - hope this helps   [End]
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RE: ...personal opinion which my experience suggests is incorrect. A. While I can appreciate the value or personal experience, I’m thinking that the published tests and results would prove far more substantial in cases such as these. RE: What I read on this forum goes against all my experiences. A. Under the context of a fair and balanced assessment, I’d be interested in hearing and considering your experiences as well. RE: Try different methods and see which has the best result. A. I think many people including myself have given chemical reduction a fair shake. In fact, I sp ...
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The use of additives when making Colloidal Silver is bad idea and history has shown this to be the case time and time again. Not only does this contribute to added chemical interactions, but also comes at the cost of the quality of the solution and particle size. Please don’t be taken by sellers who intent on pushing their products. All tests carried out to date show that the best Colloidal Silver solutions are those made without additives. Likewise, personal experiences also supports that homemade solutions made without additives are superior to these so-called chemical reduction ...
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I don’t believe MMS kills viruses personally. Though I do believe it can alleviate many of the symptoms caused by the virus to the point of making it negligible. PS. I also don’t think 2 drops is sufficient to address the symptoms of a cold. ie, in most cases, it takes several drops(depending on body weight) several times per day to get to the point where their is sufficient MMS to combat most ailments. ie, between 7 and 19 drops type thing(depending on body weight). Hope this helps   [End]
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RE: How about warts A. I have no experience with warts.   RE: also what brand of cs do you use or do you make your own? A. In practice I can only attest to homemade solutions. Though I did try some of the most popular brands in the beginning of my own treatment(years ago) only to find that they were nowhere nearly as effective.   RE: Also tips on mixing a dmso mix what utensils etc seeing as its a strong solvent A. I sort of eyeballed it at the time. I poured 1 liter of CS into a glass baking sheet and dropped 1 cap full of DMSO int ...
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RE: May I ask what type of infections? A. The most notable experience in my own case, was an injury at the base of the thumb muscle with a pair of scissors(industrial). It became infected and the tips of my thumb and index finger began to darken. After going to the hospital, I was given antibiotics and told to return in 48hrs if things didn't improved or continued to worsen. However, as I had no intentions of waiting around any longer, I decided to soak my entire hand in a CS and DMSO bath numerous times throughout the day, and found a radical change by night ...
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RE: Very much so, next question would be does ionic have more penetrating power on the skin than particular?   [End]
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RE: ... I conclude the answer beyond the gut you would want particle right? A. It works out to be the other way around actually. ie, particulate silver solutions are better suited for acidic environments, whereas ionic solutions are better suited for transdermal applications - sublingual(under the tongue), inhalation, nasal rinse, topical use, etc.   RE: Ionic has a beneficial service in other ways right? A. Ionic solutions have the advantage of diffusing through capillaries or mucus membranes(for example). Whereas it is believed that these are not well s ...
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RE: Do you need to boil the water first (100 C temperature) before starting the generator? A. If heat processing is your goal, then the answer is: yes. Also, it’s important that both electrodes(anode and cathode(s) be pure silver with heat processing as the metals will leach into the solution. In addition to this, the optimum startup point is determined when all of the electrode surfaces no longer produce bubbles from their surfaces. - indicating that the entire assembly has equalized and is at optimum.    RE: And when the generator has started, do you keep the ...
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RE: For now, could you please verify if my total wetted area calculation is correct? And how do I use this wetted area calculation with the nice ppm/run time calculator that you created? I'm trying to use your calculator but it seems the result it is giving is wrong.   [End]
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RE: now think to the silver coins, their peices of silver right? Ok silver particles are peices of silver right? Not ions not anything other than small peices of silver, someone correct me if im wrong The first thing to note is that the nature of the chemical interactions between microorganisms and silver are ultimately ionic regardless of the type of solution(ionic or particular). Therefore, the common oversight with HVAC type solutions(or particulate) is where the ionic exchange comes as a secondary reaction in contrast to the ...
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RE: The entire coin is suspended underwater by means of a 14 gauge .9999 silver wire attached to the coin through a hole I drilled near the top of the coin. In this manner, there is about 1.25” of the silver wire submerged in the water. A. Based on this, the estimated time to 19ppm would be aprox: @ 0.3 mA = 15 hrs @ 1.0 mA = 4.5 hrs However, it’s important to note that these figures do not account for the ramp-up time required for the electrolytic cell(glass, water and electrodes) to reach full potential. - that is to say, that   [End]
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RE: How much heat do you apply? A. The answer will take into account the total volume of water(heat load), and applied wattage. ie, in my own case, I make 2L of CS at a time, and so the stirrer I’m using has a 900w heating element, which I run at maximum throughout the process. There is of course a procedure involved in getting the water up-to temperature, and starting the process, though for the sake of keeping things simple, the temperature of the distilled water is at/or around 100c throughout processing.   RE: Do you have a link to the hot plate product that you use? ... [Image Embedded Here]
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RE: Does the heating need to be done during processing? I do it after processing because I don’t have a hot plate. I just boil the solution after processing. Is that not alright? A. In this particular case, the answer is yes, as the changes and benefits that come with the admission of heat are specific to the chemical interactions that takes place during processing. That said, here’s a short list of some of the observed changes that take place with a solution processed at 100c; Improved conductivity - (reduction of ramp-up processing times) Increase in satu ...
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RE: Now I realize that both boiling the solution and adding honey to it will turn the ionic silver into elemental silver, which is not what I want. So I am going to eliminate this step from my process. A. Well if it’s any consolation, I too believed this when I first started making CS, and so I guess we could say you were not alone in doing so.  That said, I learned from experience that the Colloidal Silver made with additives(reducing agents), was not as effective as the solutions made without them, and so I opted out of using this in my own process. On the matter o ... [Image Embedded Here]
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RE: It says that home made Colloidal Silver using electrolysis method is worthless as it is just ionic silver, not true Colloidal Silver. A. I’d begin by asking what true colloidal silver is, and why anyone would appeal to such a label. RE: ...Then I boil the liquid in a glass pan with a little raw honey. Finally, I filter it again and this is the colloidal silver that I consume. A. Can I ask why you’re adding honey to your solution? RE: Am I making only ionic silver with this method? And is ionic silver really worthless? A. I would answer that your solution was likely ...
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Awesome! I really enjoyed your last video, and this one as well - thank-you so much for taking the time to make this and share it with the community!   [End]
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Please refer to the following post if you’re looking for a circuit diagram or parts list.  [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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RE: The answer to me is easy. No one cares what is inside as long as it works. Vairagi had his unit for over 8 years with no problems. It does deliver on its promise of cheap Colloidal Silver that saves BIG $$$. Hi grizz, I could agree with the unit doing what it was intended to do. That said, it would appear that the person who made the tear-down video was not happy with the quality of the machine.  RE: ... measured a constant 18 volts across the electrodes, going up to 7 milliamps.  RE: The bubbler was the major reason, “Super-aerating the water prevents excessive electrical ...
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Selling is prohibited on the forums. Then again, I’m thinking you already knew that.   [End]
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RE: Using electrolyte (non-toxic sodium carbonate and distilled water stops the silver plating to the cathode.  I’d like to touch on some points in your comment as it appears to confound the quality of a CS solution with processing methods. Though before I begin, I’d like to point out that while it is true that electrolyte will alter the plating characteristics in an electrolytic cell, that the cathode will plate nonetheless. Which you yourself can verify by using a copper cathode and observing the changes that take place throughout processing.  Beyond this I’d add that it h ...
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As a DIY proponent, the sight of twisted wires and hot glue doesn’t bother me personally. That said, the fact that someone would charge 250 USD for something of this quality is quite disappointing to say the least.   [End]
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RE: do not think that it is possible to work out the quality directly from the voltage/current, only expensive testing could really do that.  I would agree with this, though it is however possible to identify changes in processing and solution by contrasting running data between instances. - continued in next comment... RE: ...but whether an electric field could promote agglomeration or other negative effect is a bit of an unknown. It seems more a case of doing everything to promote high quality CS and hoping for the best outcome. Doing things such as stirring but it can never b ...
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RE: I was shocked when Vairagi reported that his Silver Edge is a constant voltage generator at 18 Volts... I was equally amazed when I discovered this video testimonial showing what is inside the Silver Edge...  I am stumped by why this generator can make such perfect ionic silver... ... Also the silver edge laser beam test seems to confirm the photos... Hi Grizz, I’d question the conclusiveness of facts drawn across independent sources. ie, coupling results of one unit with samples from another and so-on and so-forth, given the headroom for changes with respect to the end products. i ...
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Here’s a nifty little CS tool for all you DIY’ers looking to perform basic current and ppm calculations. Granted, the time calculations are crude in that they do not account for ramp-up times, though for the most part, this can prove quite accurate with seeded and/or regulated processing.  [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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RE: I think that I would rather use 4 9v batteries if I was doing it this way . I think there are many advantages in having more voltage, though I’d prefer a voltage controller as this could be used to overcome the ramp-up stages in processing so as to keep the cell at optimum potential. RE: Batteries can be hooked together... people could get away with using just two 9v battery clips. Having used multiple 9v batteries for majority of my first year, I found it to be a bit tedious in terms of charging, connecting etc, and so I moved to a fixed power source as well. That ...
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You can activate MMS with pure lemon juice, and so I’m going to say it should be okay. That said, the simplest and best method to measure whether or not the juice is compatible is by trial and error under fire(so to speak). ie, if you’re sick, and take MMS to gain wellness, then you would have a means from which to measure whether the juice is interfering with the treatment or not. Hope this helps   [End]
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DIY Basic Colloidal Silver Generator - with advanced monitoring Parts List: 3 x Disposable OR Rechargeable 9v batteries 3 x 9v battery terminal connectors w/ leads 1 x Pack of grey twist on wire connectors - 22-16 GA AWG 1 x Current limiting diode - based on Anode calculation 2 x Digital Multimeter 2 x 10 to 15" Alligator clip extension leads Approximate cost w/o stirrer: $30.00 USD 1 x Magnetic Stirrer 1 x 20mm Magnetic Stir Bar Cost with stirrer: $90.00 USD   Additional tools: Nippers or hobby cutters Wir ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Since Colloidal Silver is systemic, it would make sense that trace amounts would be found in hair(as with all metals) That said, I fail to see what the objection is however. ie, are you under the impression that the silver is having a negative affect on the hair? Or that this is an indicator that it is a heavy metal?   [End]
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RE: Mentioning Miracle-Mineral-Supplement only reinforces my point. Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is going to kill good gut microbes as well as undesirable ones. As I recall, the initial argument was that Colloidal Silver was 1) a heavy metal, 2) causing oxidative stress and 3) causing mental illness. However, it would appear that none of those points have proven conclusive. Similarly, and with that being said, I would simply ask what evidence would you have to show that Colloidal Silver is either harmful or negatively affecting the gut? However, and in spite of this, I’d al ...
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Have you tried nebulizing with and without the CS? ie, I’d begin by establishing a control to rule out what potential causes may be behind the irritation. Such as nebulizing only with the water, then comparing this with the diluted CS for example. That said, I’d also add that the nebulizer itself can also cause irritation based on to the quality of the atomization(or vapor). - hope this helps PS. 250ppm isn’t very likely with traditional Colloidal Silver solutions.   [End]
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RE: It is toxic, that is why it is used to combat pathogens. I think you’ll find that many /if not most, treatment types will involve toxicity to pathogens in some form or another . Though I’d add that this in itself does not mean that they are equally toxic to humans. And the most likely reason for this is where the terms of toxicity are subject to thresholds or limits. ie, even pure water(for example) will become toxic at some point. And so with this in mind, the issue becomes one of dosage and tolerances.  That said, let’s consider the following abstract on a study involving ...
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Perhaps this will help you: ”Silver, gold, copper and platinum are noble metals, not ”heavy metals” like mercury, plutonium or lead. ... In dentistry, the silver, a noble metal, is combined with mercury, a toxic heavy metal, because silver helps defeat many of mercury’s toxic qualities by acting as a stabilizer.”   [End]
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Hi dimyself I would answer that the addition of a stirrer in the production of Colloidal Silver would be beneficial for all but the air pump solutions. - based on what limited effect these have as well as the introduction of air(enrichment) into the solution(aeration). Which in turn, undermines the purpose of using purified water. That said, I’d also add that there are widespread misconceptions from sellers on the use of polarity reversing circuits. To which I’d add, actually promotes the liberation of silver oxides in solution rather than stopping it. And so here again, the advan ...
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This was internal. The goal was to reach 19 drops of MMS, 2 x per day over the course of 30 days. Starting with 3 drops, and increasing daily to reach the desired level. The MMS mixture /ratio was: 1 drop MMS to 1 drop of citric acid, mixed with 8oz of water. - no juice or food for 1 hour before or after. Results were seen at/or around the 15 day mark.   [End]
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Initially we tried applying a combination of DMSO and CDS(Chlorine Dioxide Solution) to the hands through soaking, which appeared to take effect shortly after application. The challenge however was to overcome the application limitations that come with inherent properties of CDS. Particularly in the facial region, as CDS will tend to gas off quite readily at room temp. The next phase was to undergo a 30 day course of the original MMS protocol(19 drop target 2 x day) to reach total permeation. To which I’d add, the MMS proved quick to react in that the face and hands began to show signs ...
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Excellent information indeed! The oxidative power of MMS can yield amazing results in certain cases and this truly one of them. That said, did I ever mention that a documented case of mild Argyria was completely reversed(cured) using DMSO and MMS products? For anyone interested in seeing just how powerful MMS truly is in such cases, try adding a few drops to a glass of colloidal silver(any type) and observe the results. - oxides, sulfides and other silver particulates, completely disassociated in the blink of an eye. Question is why hasn’t anyone in research considered such tre ...
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I agree, this is indeed surprising.   [End]
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Wow, so much concentrate in such small volumes! That said, as I recall 1000ppm is not the highest that Silver Protein has been reported as going. ie, I read in the past that some solutions were measured in excess of 20000ppm. Whatever the case, I’d caution against using Silver Protein as it’s been identified as a culprit in the development of systemic Argeria in humans :/   [End]
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I would also add that while it is illegal to sell MMS anywhere in North America, that it is possible however to buy and sell the Sodium Chlorite used to make MMS. Though I suspect that if this were ever done in conjunction with MMS, that it could ultimately lead to charges of conspiracy. Which incidentally, was one of the leading arguments in Daniel Smith case.   [End]
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As I recall, Louis Daniel Smith was sentenced to 51 months in prison. To which I’d add, he had apparently served well over a year while in custody awaiting trial. And so he could potentially be out in less than 2 for good behavior if the time served was consecutive to his sentence. - That said, I don’t understand why he was sentenced to prison for such a crime personally - makes no sense RE: That said, I’d also question if the FDA served him with a cease and desist order prior to either, before investigating or after concluding that he was in contempt with the law? UPDATE: I ...
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You’re welcome, and glad to help wherever possible. That said, I personally found the Spooky2 concept to have great potential based on frequency and feature customization. However, and unfortunately, I didn’t have much time to test the unit in contact mode before the spike incident. Though I am confident that it could have been effective had it of worked properly in my own case. - ie, my treatment area was on the lower left jawbone, to which I’d add, you can imagine my reluctance to continue using past a 48+ volt jolt from the nominal 7.3v setting. - Needless to say, the units have ...
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news on this one, but the Spooky2 unit makes a rather poor CS generator due to its polarity reversal process and extremely slow(or long) run times. Which results in solutions that are often destabilized even before ever being finished. That said, and in consequence to this(slow), the solutions produced by Spooky 2 units are very dirty as a result of the effect of reversing the polarity during processing. (switching the direction of the current back and forth across the electrodes) * I currently own two spooky two(2) units. One that I purchased to use a ...
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Based on personal experience, I’d say the amounts may not be sufficient. ie, our children have often made use of colloidal silver over the years for colds etc, and we’ve observed that the sweet spot insofar as dosages go(getting results) seem to hover at/or around the 1 Oz p/dose mark. That said, I’d also add that the consensus in our home is to hold the solution under the tongue for a minimum of 5 mins. before swallowing. And that in the event of a cold or sore throat, that allowing the solution to trickle down the throat rather than to swallow it afterward seems to work best. This ha ...
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I’d agree on the value of CS as an alternative treatment also. That said, I’d also add that the risks that come with excessive use of CS seems to pale in comparison to the risks associated with the antibiotics used in the treatment of serious conditions. Such as, dementia, nerve damage, convulsions, loss of feeling or sensations of pain, aneurysms or stroke, bone loss, tendon or joint damage, and death. To which I’d add, I’d gladly choose a cosmetic skin condition over any day personally.   [End]
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RE: You are missing the VITAL information of how many ozs per day Good catch, and the answer is that he was taking on average; one to two(1-2) ounces per dose, as his dosage would vary according to his symptoms. And so I calculated that he took an average of six oz. day for a little over six years before seeing signs of Argyria. As for the water, he claims to have only ever used steam distilled water. That said, I had the chance to test his solution and found it to be very good in terms of; clarity, stability, tyndall etc. As for taking smaller amounts, I would agree with the co ...
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RE: Barwick seems to think it has the potential to happen if you abuse any kind of CS... Argyria is a rather fascinating condition in that it is far more common than is often perceived. ie, the blueish discoloration following long term exposure to silver jewelry for example. - contact Argyria That said, I would agree on the notion that Argyria is not bound to any particular form of silver. Which seems supported by the fact that the condition has been associated with various forms and exposure; inhaling and handling of silver metal(or powder), as well as the ingestion of compounds(p ...
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RE: I do have a question. With your experience on diodes, will the same 1 milliamp diode work equally well with a 24 volt power supply as with a 48 volt supply? Will it still limit the current to 1 milliamp with either supply voltage? I would answer yes. I have pushed 1 mAh diodes as high as 60v without issue. Though I’d add that there are limits to what a diode can withstand in terms of total wattage(V x A). And so it’s important to outline this prior to experimentation. ie, as the conductivity of the cell increases, the voltage required to carry the amperage is reduced proporti ...
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While I would agree with the use of the diagram and electrochemistry information likely being overkill for most homebrewers. I would, however, add that these are the reasons why I’ve come to appreciate the use and simplicity of current limiting diodes. Granted, they are not perfect in that the current is fixed, though it does, however, solve the issue of voltage drop, by making very quick work of regulating current. ie, it has come to my attention that most simple DYI setups will run at/or around the 1 mAh mark. Which in turn, leads to a 1 mAh current limiting diode as being most often ...
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Hi Grizz, I would add that while the idea of using resistance to control current is not new, that the use of a potentiometer(variable resistor) does help avoid some of the pitfalls that come with fixed resistors.That said, the downside to using resistors, however, is where these affect the voltage across the electrodes as this would enter the prerequisites of the electrochemical production of CS - see: Electrolysis and the electrochemical series Therefore, and with that in mind, an ideal circumstance would be to use a constant current source so as to maintain voltage throu ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Hello Grizz and thanks for the vote of confidence. Though I’d be reluctant to call myself an expert on anything Colloidal Silver related as my experience and observations have been entirely subjective and/or theoretical at best. That said, I have been privileged to have taken part in some rather exciting CS research over the course of the years. Which in turn, provided me with the opportunity to acquire some very helpful knowledge in the field of electrochemistry. Beyond this, I’d add that my knowledge on the science and biological reactions associated with colloidal silver in huma ...
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Does anyone else know about this? I came across a small column with news from court covering Arthur Doerksen’s tax evasion trial in British Columbia Canada, which announces that he died of cancer between an adjournment period. That said, what caught my attention with this is where it appears as though both Arthur Doerksen and Hulda Clark died of Cancer in spite of zapping :( PS. Doerksen is the founder of a Hulda Clark devices known as; Auto-Zap, Zapicator etc. He was charged in the province of BC for tax evasion for failing to claim over 1 million dollars worth of income. Arth ...
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Glad to hear it. I sure you’ll be extremely pleased with the addition of a stirrer in that it will prove invaluable in the production of the most advanced Colloidal Silver made today. To which I’d add, will run circles around such products as Mesosilver and other equivalents. That said, on the production method, I’d invite you to contact me via PM when you have your equipment and I’ll guide you through the process. PS. let me know if you need any help purchasing a good stirrer. I’ve been working with these a long time, and might help you avoid some pitfalls along the way.   [End]
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It is unfortunate that heated stirrers are so expensive. You can sometimes find some fairly decent units on eBay however, though I rarely see anything under 180USD worth buying. Another rule of thumb in cases such as these is to choose a unit with a min. of 500 watts or more of heating power. Otherwise, you risk not having the capacity to heat a pot of CS, as many manufacturers amplify their specs. Having said that, one of the vital aspects of using a stirrer is where it will dissipate the particulate away from the anode and discourage agglomeration. In contrast to air which not on ...
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Sorry to have missed this post. Unfortunately, the forums are less than intuitive when it comes to keeping track of topics and comment updates. That said, I’m not entirely sure I’m following the question pertaining to ion instability and valences. Though I’m thinking this may be a good opportunity to ask what you believe takes place beyond the dissociation stage at the anode in the production of an LVDC colloidal silver solution. ie, once a silver ion is liberated from the anode what happens next in your view? Does it bind or combine with anything? Is it stable? What chemical compo ...
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Can’t say I do, though I’m confident that you will be making high-quality Ionic Silver solutions once you get your generator. That said, have you considered buying a heated stirrer to go along with your generator? It isn’t necessary, though this will give you the advantage of controlling the ionic/particulate ratio during production.   [End]
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Sorry for the confusion. The fridge and freezer pertains to the dry form(powder) and not the liquid.   [End]
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Based on what you’ve written is sound as though you’re symptoms may be linked to inflammation. That said, you may be able to achieve similar results that with the MMS through dieting. Though the possibly remains that it may more intervention may be required also. ie, If you cannot find relief through strict dieting such as with the classic Kidney Infection Diet. Then it may be required to supplement this with the addition of Colloidal Silver regiment. Hope this helps.   [End]
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My experience is that CS can help, if the issue involves infection. That said, I’ve also discovered that a Beck style zapper set to run at/or around 17 Hz with two pairs of electrodes encapsulating both kidneys will work wonders when coupled with CS. - hope this helps   [End]
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Congratulations on your new Silvertron Elite I’m sure you’ll make very good use of it.   [End]
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Welcome to the world of product marketing :/   [End]
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and thank-you for that - happy to help wherever possible. That said, I hope you caught or corrected my grammatical errors in the process. Otherwise, this may cause confusion for readers.   [End]
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What’s interesting with the Ionic vs Elemental debate is where both types will possess ionic properties to some extent or another. That said, what’s equally interesting is that which is commonly referred to as ionic silver, is not truly made up of silver ions, as these are so unstable(reactive), that their existence consists of mere microseconds passed the point of disassociation(from the anode). Therefore what we typically end up with from an LVDC process, is predominantly silver oxides. Which in effect, is a semi-aqueous silver compound that will phase in-and-out of an ionic stat ...
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To my knowledge, there are two ways to do this; 1. Create an elemental microparticle solution using an HVAC(high voltage AC) process. Which works out in some ways to be very similar to the DC process in that two electrodes are used. With the notable exception of the structural differences; charge, dispersion properties, size etc. This process involves the use of high voltage and some rather challenging conditions that would not likely appeal to many DYI’ers. To which I’d add, the costs are usually much higher than with LVDC processes due to the added measures to control heat and ens ...
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I personally like Steve Barwick’s work. I think he does a very good job at presenting CS in a fair and balanced way.   [End]
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I would be the first to admit that this particular CS generator may be one of the most advanced devices this side of the home-brewers market. That said, and unfortunately, the product developer has proven to be less than reputable over the years by making appearances in the curezone forums to attack other sellers products or claims to laboratory methods and research. Only to leave in frustration after being called out for what I’d consider call unethical behavior. That said, having gleaned through some of the information, I found several references pertaining to the chemistry metho ...
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To my knowledge, citric acid does not expire so long as it’s stored and remains in powder form. As for MMS, if the mixture is prepared in liquid form, then I’ve read that it will expire in time. Though I’ve had bottles myself for over three years that appear to be okay. That said, on way to store MMS long term, is to store place in an airtight container and in a cool dry place. Whereas some people say, you should freeze it. Though I can’t confirm whether this is necessary or not, as chemical suppliers appear to store it in their own warehouses for very long periods of time(several ...
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RE: Okay, therefore is the current at a fixed and constant rate in your device Yes. RE: Do you know what current flows between the electrodes? In my own case that would be 32 mAh RE: Ionic silver by comparison is largely ineffective as it reacts with chlorides within the body, in particular the stomach which would render it pretty much useless I too recall feeling this way in the early stages of my research. That said, upon closer inspection, I discovered that these particular views stemmed from studies and reports carried out by certain Colloidal Silver manufacturers ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Thanks for the video.  That said, I’d say there are a few things going-on that call for improvements: 1. The circuit should employ some form of current(mAh) limiting - so as to comform to the size of the anode(dia. and wetted length). Otherwise, the anode will be over-driven(loaded) and you will end-up with bi-products such as the ones shown in the video. - NB. most simple generators using single electrode and cathode setups, will use no more than .75 - 2.5 mAh of current at any given time. The downside to this however, is that this increases production time as the circuit will no ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Without the use of additives and using only distilled water, the electrolysis process will produce Oxygen at the anode(positive electrode) and Hydrogen at the cathode(cathode). PS. if you’re seeing what looks like a stream coming off your anode during processing, this wouldn’t likely be Oxygen but more along the lines of a condensed crystal formation as a result of what I’d call a hot-spot or over-loaded(current) anode. - hope this helps   [End]
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Most nebulizers will be self regulating with respect to dosage(which is usually aprox 1 oz per dose), as each each person will breath according to their own lung capacity. That said, you may want to consider making your own CS for the long term, either buying or building a generator. If not only for always having some on hand, and where ionic solutions are said to work better in nebulizing applications than with the particulate type solutions. - hope this helps   [End]
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RE: ...I have no way of analysing it and analysis is likely to cost a lot of money and without that I think it would provide less information than details about the generation process that you used to make it.  I think you misunderstood. The intent was to use the solution in hopes of helping you decide whether or not you'd want to invest in such a process method.   RE: Does it have any control of current via a potentiometer etc? I've chosen to use current limiting diodes in my own setup since my configuration(electrode size/distance etc) is fixed and whe ...
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Often times, feelings such as extreme bouts of hunger and/or weakness, can be linked to mineral deficiencies. That said, one of the leading causes of mineral deficiencies are due to altercations in the blood chemistry. Particularly in the red blood cell health and production. Which are classic symptoms of an underlying infection. Therefore, it would make sense that you would find relief from garlic intake as this could help combat bacterial infections throughout the body. As these are often swayed by the quality of ones eating habits. - steering clear of; sugars, starches, carbohyd ...
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Hi BrightSideOfLife, After reading your post, I’d like to offer some information if you’re interested in making your own CS and generator to treat an infection, as I have been in a very similar situation myself, and have benefited greatly from this knowledge also. As it turns out, I am a huge fan of the DYI approach, which stands in contrast to investing in what I’d call overpriced solutions. Though I’d add that I do appreciate the convenience that comes from systems that can allow the less fortunate(in terms of technical expertise), along with automation in such cases. This le ...
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Thanks for clarifying b3nault, What’s interesting is where both meters make use of the same basic principal to measure water purity(between electrodes). The difference however is where the PWT meter presents its readings on a microsiemens(μS) scale, whereas the TDS meter converts this into PPM. - I’d also add that some meters will allow switching between measurements(EC, PPM etc), which can prove useful in certain cases. That said, as to why you’re not getting consistent readings between both units remains to be uncovered. Though I’d first question if one of your meters hasn’t ...
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