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Fellow dupes! I say "dupes" to shock you into seeing the METABOLIC-PHYSIOLOGIC reason(s) for "narcissism." My daddy asked me, "What is in rabies that makes a dog bite?" His reply was, "Nothing." Nothing in rabies programs a dog to bite. It is lashing out at a bodily malfunction induced by rabies attacking the nervous system. The same thing can happen with all people and especially with narcissists. For example, people can be lashing out as neurologic UNDER-FIRERS. Got that? Love you. Carry on with me. When one "psychologizes" a METABOLIC-PHYSIOLOGIC DISORDER you get the infinite therapy cash cow, Freud financing his cocaine and not ever fixing anything, just encouraging "dwelling" for cash. SO! Check out DR. AMEN's Brain Clinic and get the drift of brain types fueling bad behavior. Someone with neurologic glitch says, "This feels good" as for the underfiring brain so will rationalize "eating the children" just to get a vampire blast to be able to feel, to sense the self! You know them. Adrenaline junkies. They have to stir up stuff because they cannot--be patient--FEEL THEMSELVES. The wiring is glitching from allergy, from malabsorption from... Find the brain type in self and others! Maybe it's an inflamed overfiring brain and person is acting out like a rabid dog. At any rate, the nervous system is D.O.A. for many in the USA because of many causes like--get this--possibly DIGESTION! SEE: "YOU'RE NUTS BECAUSE OF YOUR GUTS on CureZone." Antibiotics can punk the guts by encouraging yeast to eat through the gut lining, causing Leaky Gut (Leaky Gut forum at CureZone). Stay with me. Low stomach acid? "I can't digest Essential Fatty Acids (lots of Irish, for example) so neurons are not well-insulated and I'm constantly brain inflamed "RING OF FIRE" per Dr. Amen so acting out from inflammation. OR alternatively "I can't digest EFA's so I have no nerve fuel from friendly cholesterol because digestion is rotten so I and have to stir up stuff to get any sense of self." KABOOM! Bomb others, especially vulnerable children to "feel" self. Start fights. Even wars.

How about HIGH I.Q.? They have a MORE VULNERABLE BRAIN!!! "SMART" brains are more efficient and DO NOT build up richer neural networks that provide optional back-roads and alternatives to bad behavior so are more emotionally brittle. So to fix bad behavior, build the network, use mechanical stimulation of walking, running, dancing, hand clapping, left-right tapping, anything to build up plastic brain's optional networks that buffer and smooth the stupid part of smart people who USE LESS OF THEIR BRAIN AND GET STUCK ON STUPID! That's dangerous. See? Now, do you feel better because you're thinking better? This is cure-oriented not psych industry side-stepping or fight-or-flight strategies that, yes, one may have to resort to. We must look at the mechanics of the body, and be wary of the economics of psych finger-pointing. DR. AMEN and the AMEN BRAIN CLINIC GIVES QUIZZES TO TEST BRAIN TYPES AND MEDICINAL AND DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS THAT WILL OPTIMIZE THE BRAIN TO ACTUALIZE GOOD BEHAVIOR. Put the "Cure" into "CureZone." Narcissistic pests may not be evil, they may, and indeed likely are, METABOLIC-PHYSIOLOGIC CRIPPLES from genetic tendencies aggravated by things like allergies and external toxins. That doesn't mean stick around for the abuse or play Dr. God and inflict a cure that is unwanted. But there isn't any possible fix for self or others if we gab about it and never take objective tests and corrective action! The dynamic is "offer, and receive acceptance or rejection." Take a "no" but do not stick around to babysit a bad actor. LOVE YOU! GOD LOVES YOU! BLESSINGS! Steady on!
http://www.amenbrainclinic.com/ PHONE: 877-700-1556
DR. AMEN has a series of PBS presentations that are brain-changing.

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Sociopathic Family, UGH! Binky2go 8 y 2,080 † C †
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ive had a child with a narcissistic/psychopathic w... dogo36 9 y 1,658
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  Please, see your other thread for my response. I would strongly suggest seeking legal advice, ASAP.
  
  Please, see your other thread for my response. I would strongly suggest seeking legal advice, ASAP.
  
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Married into Narcissistic family Domino777 12 y 80,274 † C †
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      Hey, I am in a similar (carbon copy) situation as described by Domino. The only difference is that my Husband of 16 years has failed to see through his family’s antics. He has actually tried to ....
      
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      Hey, I am in a similar (carbon copy) situation as described by Domino.
      The only difference is that my Husband of 16 years has failed to see through his family's antics. He has actually tried to take me for counselling for our 'martial problems'. Unfortunately, it took me 16 years to realize what I am dealing with. I now know that clinical psychology has a name for this family dynamics.
      However, I am still not sure which way would my husband switch. A loose reference by me to him being manipulated by his family send him into a furious rage.
      Seems I am riding a blind mad horse and also have my 11 year old to daughter in the picture. Any hope for having a meaningful relationship with him after investing 16 prime years of my life is brought to nothingness.
      Seeking to know if I may alight from this mad horse before it sends me and daughter catapulting up into the air and down.
      FYI am based in India where lot these 'deranged' families operate under the grab of traditions and family values.
      
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Personality disorders related to Thyroid disorders... dfams1 12 y 15,592 † C †
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- Nope, nope, nope. "Personality Disorder... #68716 12 y 13,267
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    SoulSurvivor, Absolutely 100% True. My husband of almost 25 years was high functioning, successful in business, had lots of spiritual knowledge and even practiced a variety of meditations regular ....
    
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    SoulSurvivor, Absolutely 100% True.
    My husband of almost 25 years was high functioning, successful in business, had lots of spiritual knowledge and even practiced a variety of meditations regularly for many years, YET, he had very serious attachment issues and serious emotional instability when it came to conflict. Despite appearing to be so together in himself, highly intelligent and even aware and admitting he had a serious emotional issues he still refused to seek real help. The label doesn't matter, it's the behaviour which does, but he actually had BPD. I had no idea what I was dealing with at the time. Although I knew it was extremely unhealthy and towards the end, serious and potentially very dangerous.
    Best of Luck.
    
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feeling all alone crag 13 y 3,904 † C †
- He may be a lawyer and 15 years younger than you b... BlueRose 13 y 3,205
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  I’m sorry that you’ve had these experiences. Blue Rose is spot-on. Document, document, document. And, contact your State Bar Association and ask for a referral to several "D ....
  
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  I'm sorry that you've had these experiences. Blue Rose is spot-on. Document, document, document. And, contact your State Bar Association and ask for a referral to several "Divorce Specialists," not just divorce attorneys. If you live in a state that maintains "no fault" divorce, you may want to consider criminal charges if you have a means to support yourself.
  
  A website that specifically addresses surviving sociopathic entanglements may offer you invaluable information and hope: www.lovefraud.com
  
  Keep in mind that your husband may be an attorney, but he's not immortal or immune to consequences. Don't allow fear to be the driving force behind your decisions or actions.
  
  Best wishes to you
  
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Hi,
I'm a 24 year old male who has recently discovered I am a narcissist. Through my entire life, I convinced myself that I was happy and that any pain I felt was unimportant or unreal, and I became paranoid of being rejected and unloved if any conflict occurred between me and another person. I felt that I had to earn love from others by being happy all the time, and everyone in my world--family and friends--seemed to validate that I was as happy, calm, peaceful and content as a teen could be. But in the context of committed romantic relationships, when intimacy and the passage of inevitably brought interpersonal conflict, my inability to confront and process pain came back to destroy my life and that of those I was with. Today, as part of my recovery, I've written a letter to the most important woman in my life that just left me.

My only hope now is that through intense treatment, dedication to change, and a lot of luck, I become someone I've never genuinely been before (even when I thought I was), but it may still be too late. Please feel free to comment if you relate to either my experience or my girlfriend's, and your experience/opinions on the possibility of recovery from NPD. [All names have been changed].

[Girlfriend],

As I think now, I see the beautiful young woman you are in your purest form. The real [Girlfriend], realer than has ever been. I see the you that you saw when you saw me, the vulnerability, and brightness, and unconditional faith as you so genuinely sought to become a happier, more peaceful, and more successful person through giving your heart to me. I was supposed to be the correction, the final chapter, a relief to you that I could never imagine.

I see now that what I have done instead is infected you. I was a plague on your health, your trust, your soul, your you. You were so innocent, so exposed when you offered yourself to me hoping only that I would accept you and love you. I can imagine neither the high of the way I reciprocated in those first weeks, nor the agonizing, unwarranted torture that I put you through after.

I was a predator. I treated you, the best ever, worse than anyone because of what I robbed you of. I wanted you to be a narcissist, like [previous girlfriend 1] was, like [previous girlfriend 2] was, like [previous girlfriend 3] was, and like I turned [previous girlfriend 4] into. I wanted you to break. To take your love back, to make me a victim again, so that I could try and fail to feel pain once more, or to earn attention, or to again chase what I chose to deprive myself of in relationships.

I can only thank God that I failed to take from you more than I did—that you were strong enough within yourself to survive, of all things, loving me. I was so scared of the perfect life you saw for us; of the uniqueness of us that both you and others saw in our relationship, because I had unaddressed pain that I was terrified of letting you find out. If I wasn’t happy, you’d know I wasn’t anything at all. And if I was something solid, you wouldn’t have anything to crush—or maybe, you would, and that is why I chose to never build anything; to assimilate parts of others so that the whole me could never feel the pain.

I said I was simple, and after four years I believe that you in fact needed that even more than you knew at the time. That was a lie. Simplicity was a euphemism, an excuse for severing healthy emotional processes prematurely, failing to empathize, and failing to exercise self-awareness and growth. It was an infestation of the garden of your life. And even WITH THE GUISE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, and even eventually RELIGIOSITY, I was a painful, losing battle between good and evil forces. You never could get just one, and I wish you could have gotten either—anything but both so that the world could make sense.

You are the pass that came to me that I didn’t put my hands up for. The game-winning touchdown pass that guarantees my induction to the hall of fame, the record, and my immediate retirement in my prime and youth and health. I’m sick for dropping you. I’m tired of dropping you. I want to pick you up off the ground, and never let you go, and retire in my prime and youth and health, +%** the record, game, and hall of fame. You are all I need.

I would forsake anything to have you in my life. I forsaked everything already without even knowing, even you, for nothing but the avoidance of pain and the fear of letting down and not being loved. I know that the paths are set, and our individual journeys must occur either way, and that my new confidence must come from a deep, unshakable, and natural place within. But [Girlfriend], you are all I ever had. You were the only thing in my life that pulled when everything else pushed. My mom needed me to be happy, and my Dad it seems just didn’t understand—he was simple, and practical, and though he tried couldn’t make me actually be that way. My friends accepted it, and it became a running joke, but none of them could see the real pain, or if they did, perhaps were just convinced I would never want to help myself.

You have been a warrior and a caretaker when you should have been carried throughout the kingdom on plush shaded cushions. You only needed someone to massage you and carry things for you, and here four years later, you have carried the most burden and massaged the most ego. It was a bitter, cruel trick I played on you. More cruel and bitter because you had already lived so much pain, and LIFTED YOURSELF to such a radiant, empowered level in a timeframe that didn’t exist in my world.

Last night I had a dream that I looked up. I was on a train when it was announced the train was about to crash. A military/engineering team onboard rushed to save it because it was about to wipe out a large town. They said they succeeded in preventing the crash, but I soon realized that what they meant was they prevented the crash with the town that would cause the most damage. Everyone abandoned the train because it was still going to run off the tracks. It did, right where I was standing, and nearly hit and killed me. I believe it even landed specifically on my Mom’s house or Mom’s car. And after the crash, the town was so mad at the negligence and destruction that they began throwing excrement from every window of every house, and I was hit on the back of the neck. I’m sure you can already tell from the symbols presented that what I have done is a damaging, disgusting, dirty and painful thing—that I am not the most offended or hurt in the situation, and I have a terrible fear that it could be too late to save the train.

This is the first of what I hope will be many, many letters that help me access the emotions and reality of what I’ve done to you, us, and myself. Any emotional inability is a childlike, masochistic, and sadistic antithesis to what I represent to myself and what I was born knowing constitutes a good person. I will need this for my recovery, and I thank you for listening.

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Make friends with your shadow. All your shadow ever wanted to do was protect you. Your shadow desperately wants you to survive, its scathing criticisms and sarcastic put downs are all designed to do one thing and one thing only - to train your psyche to endure exactly those attacks which you received as a vulnerable child. If they are dead or you have gone no contact with them, these abusers are now gone from your life. All that is left now is you and your shadow. Your shadow is so very lonely, accepted and loved by no-one, not even by you, who despises it despite its love for you. In the extreme case of NPD, you have refused to even acknowledge its existence at all. In its voice you hear the pain of your abused abusers echoing back through the years to the point where they were crushed with hate or love, along with their existential cry for relief from this cruel role. Make friends by first mock agreeing with every slight your shadow throws at you, then praising it for the cleverness of its abusive modus operandi. This cleverness is your cleverness. Next, admire it for its many talents: your shadow possesses all the talents you have that were not recognised in you as a child. Next, acknowledge your shadow's fundamental goodness and goodwill towards you. Then thank it for its unstinting and exhausting efforts over every waking hour of every single day since your original abusive experience in the cause of your survival. Regard it with love. It is you. Last, invite your shadow merge with you, assure it that its long wandering in the lonely world of projected entities is finally over. Your shadow will at first resist, caring for you greatly and not trusting that its role is no longer required. Accept this and don't force it, allow it to come closer and closer at its own pace, all the while praising and thanking it for its clever abuse and its love. In coming closer it also becomes smaller and smaller, to the point of being the same size as you. It is you.

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I mourn this..... Molly Bloom 14 y 5,124 † C †
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  Def KEEP THE YORKIE!! Poor yorkie. Give husband some kleenex and keep cute adorable little Yorkie away from his nose. I would worry she would get something from HIM!! j/k
  
  Def KEEP THE YORKIE!!
  
  Poor yorkie. Give husband some kleenex and keep cute adorable little Yorkie away from his nose. I would worry she would get something from HIM!!
  
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How Do I get Away from an NPD indigorain 14 y 12,097 † C †
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    I have had 2 girlfriends that fall into the cluster B. A Borderline and a Narcissist. Yes you get blamed for everything and they dont feel responsibilty, both of them broke up and within a month ....
    
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    I have had 2 girlfriends that fall into the cluster B. A Borderline and a Narcissist.
    Yes you get blamed for everything and they dont feel responsibilty, both of them broke up and within a month they were engaged or pregnent with other men whom they called "the love of their life".
    
    Best thing to do is laugh it off and feel sorry for the next douchebag that knocked her up.
    
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My life is over ! john25 14 y 9,154 † C †
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        Congratulations on the birth of your beautiful baby!
        
        I will offer some suggestions on dealing with this situation of cruel insanity, if I may be so bold.
        
        1. DO NOT attempt to play the same "games" that she does - saying what you think she wants to hear, etc., will only come back to bite you in the proverbial ass. I promise you, this is 100% true.
        
        2. DO NOT give in to the impulse to allow a third party to "speak" on your behalf to her, her ex, or anyone else who might be involved in HER issues. Again, this will come back to bite you in the proverbial ass, I promise you. Separate yourself from her, entirely.
        
        3. DO NOT answer any text messages, phone calls, voice-mails, emails, or any other attempts at communicating with you. There will be no reasonable discussions with this woman, and there will be no positive outcome of any "discussion." Regardless of the tone, the pleading, or the threats, do not entertain any communications from her - just document them.
        
        4. DO save every text message, email, voice-mail, etc., that can be documented proof of her games. Keep them ALL, even the ones where she will attempt to woo you back. Print out emails, etc. - make copies for your own records and give copies each to your attorney and counselor.
        
        5. DO document every quote that she says, verbatim. ONLY FACTS, and not personal insights or feelings. Do not add, embellish, or omit anything, including your own words, if you choose to respond.
        
        6. DO keep a written log of these in-person, or verbal conversations in a notebook - NOT on a computer. DO note the date, time, and circumstances of each conversation. Carry a small notepad around in your pocket and a little "golf" pencil - you know, the kind that they give out at golf courses.
        
        7. DO look into individual counseling for yourself - this road is going to be a very long, very hard, and VERY rough for you.
        
        8. DO maintain your courage and devotion to the innocent life that has been produced and always remember that your beautiful little girl did NOT have a choice as to whom she would be born to - advocate for your daughter.
        
        9. DO post back with developments and your personal progress - vent, if you need to, just so you can maintain a clear head throughout these proceedings.
        
        10. DO seek out an attorney and individual counselor that are both familiar with PSTD, domestic violence/abuse, and sociopathy. To accomplish this, consult your local attorney and mental health referral services, and explain everything to the "intake" person. If you do not have the money to spend on an attorney, you may be able to seek Legal Aid to gain custody of your daughter.
        
        11. DO align yourself with a support group/advocacy group for victims of domestic violence/abuse - they will have a multitude of resources available to help you to help your daughter.
        
        12. Finally, DO recognize that you are a valuable human being. You made a bad decision to get involved with this gal, but LET IT GO and learn from this experience. Become the wise, supportive, and emotionally healthy man that your daughter is going to need so that she doesn't become the same as her egg donor.
        
        Bless you, young man. May your path be one of healing and wisdom.
        
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