Hi bobbysb,
It's good to hear from you, but I'm sorry your still having such a hard time. I know it will get better, though. I talked to someone at the Gerson Institute yesterday cause I was so sick and she said that Charlotte Gerson has the best book about this type of healing. I ordered it, so if you want to wait til I get it, then I can tell you which one is best. Also, Kathryn's book is short, so unless you want the recipes or in depth explanations, it might not be worth your while.
Don't feel bad about going off the deep end with the peanut butter and cereal. I've done that a million times in the last eighteen years that I've been trying to get better. Sometimes it's good that your body won't let you starve it for too long. One time my vision was really blurry and I was at the mall and broke down and bought a bag of potato chips from a health food store. After eating about a quarter of the bag I noticed that my vision wasn't blurry anymore. Here my liver probably needed some oil. I think we need a lot more oil that cancer patients. We don't lie around all day and have someone taking care of us. Our bodies need enough oil to function. I keep unsalted organic butter, almond butter, raw cashews, almonds, and pecans around and have some of at least one of these with every meal. Sometimes I overdo it and I don't feel good for a little while, but I get over it.
Do you drink your juices away from your meals. I drink my juice and then start cooking. Are you using green apples? The sweet ones bother me, too. Beets have alot of sugar, but also they can jam up my liver really quickly. I'm starting to dilute my juices with a little bit of water, too, and that seems to help. I finally got some celery, I think Celery is important cause it has minerals that balance out the naturals sugars. We need the sugars, but we need to balance them. Celery + green apple + green leaf lettuce + water works the best for me.
If less enemas and juices makes you feel better, you might be detoxing too quickly, so just do that. Kathryn actually has a plan where you don't even do juices and just following the diet makes you detox, just more slowly. If that's what you need to do to function, then do it and don't worry. I'm trying to do them now by just lying on my right side for the whole 15 minutes, because that does seem to be what most recommend.
When I get so tired that I can't move, if I can get myself in the bathtub with some Miracle II soap, by the time I get out I feel much better and I always have at least a couple of hours that I can get things done or go places. You can read about it on-line, but if you want to try it, I can send you a sample. If you want to go straight to buying it, we found someone who sells it for $9 a bottle. Also, though, I could send you a sample of something that I got for relieving symptoms in your digestive tract. It's called comfort. If your interested in that let me know, and I'll tell you more.
I'm still not doing great, either, but I know I'm on the right track, so I'm staying with it. I know that these things take time. Whatever you do, you need to keep on eating three meals a day, even if they are small. I'll send you some sample meal plans later.
I'll talk to you later, and
de nada,

Adios
Betsy

Hey betsy, I just lost the message I was typing somehow so I'll start over here. I have here it my hand a hanky for your tears- it's white with red poka-dots and pictures of Goofy and Donald Duck. I hope that helps. I know exactly what you mean about always thinking next week will be different. I've had that mentality(I guess it's called optimism) for so long I feel like a complete fool but I'm not ready to give up yet and I'm glad to hear that you aren't either. Here's my plan as of now- strictly juicing for a while then adding solids- one thing at a time- it's the only way for me to know what helps and what hinders. I'm cutting out apples(Is that wise?) I have stuck to strickly green apples but they just seem to cause problems. My main effort now is going into not forcing anything as that seems to be when I really backslide. I already ordered Kathryn's book so I think I'm stuck with that for better or worse but if by some chance you have a CD copier I wouldn't mind a copy of the Detox CD's you ordered. If not I'm sure the book will do. How long does it take? Also I wanted to ask you how your symptoms began and if you were ever diagnosed with Depression as I was- pills pills, more pills and alot of wasted time. Let me know. Talk to you soon, B

Wow, that's some exciting beginning for chronic fatigue! I wonder what the gas did to your little brain. They didn't put in any Amalgam or root canals, did they? At least with the partying you don't mind paying the price, but for surgery! And then all those pills are hard on your liver, too. Well, at least you're going in the right direction now.
Chinese bitters are difficult to find. Maybe someone would carry gentian in a tincture form, but Julia's is the best, and very economical, too. Swedish Bitters is the same idea, but it has herbs in it that cause liver congestion. If you do order from Julia, tell her what you told me. It will help her to know what you should take, and she might be able to explain what the gas did to you.
I did try flushing, the last time was about 6 weeks ago. Once again I felt horrible all night long, and terrible the next day. I'm small, thin, and add in weak digestion, lots of grapefruit juice, and a half of a cup of olive oil, and it's not a good combination. My husband can do them, even vomit, get up the next day and be fine. Everyone is different. I was very relieved when I read Kathryn's stuff and found out that there is an alternative, and that the alternative is so effective that it is what the alternative cancer healers like Gerson, Gonzalez, and Kelley use. When I want to push harder, I add in a castor oil pack. I have to do the slow, but steady way. But whatever you choose to do today, there's always tomorrow to choose something else or find something else. Thank you for the encouragement the other day. It really helps.
I'll talk to you later,
Betsy