Re: amalgam and resin filling (Amalgam Debate Forum) 1/24/2007 819469

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Wrong. An RCT simply observes the outcomes in different cohorts while controlling for variables. It's just mathematics. The data is laid out for everyone to see. If the RCT I posted contained bias, you should explain the type of bias and show me where. Do you even know what the types of bias are? Do you know how levels of evidence are classified? If one doesn't know the basics of research methodology, then one has no basis to evaluate the validity of a given study.

I don't know where you get off claiming studies in support of Amalgam (i.e., government & ADA) must be biased. This alone suggests that you have an agenda (or business) to support. There is some valid data on both sides of the issue. Or maybe I'm the only one here willing to view both sides with an open mind instead of picking my side and then finding "data" to support it.

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