Re: amalgam and resin filling (Amalgam Debate Forum) 12/30/2006 800986

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"Dentists have the highest rate of suicide and depression of all medical professions."
What's your source for this statistic?

"Because your friends seem fine is not scientific and is not a study."
And neither is your entire post. I'm still looking for the science behind these passionate beliefs. I'm sure there are good studies, but i don't know where to go to get them. There's a ton of fluff on the internet, butit seems mostly unscientific and skewed by emotions. All I'm getting here is a bunch of "Canada and Sweden are doing it so it must be right."

"That lots of people for a long time have had amalgams is not scientific reasoning nor is it proof of anything." I agree this is not science, but I still think it's the most difficult point to dispute. How do you explain it?

"Every year more and more dentists are becoming holistic and practicing mercury-free dentistry. Why do you think this is?" It's because they make MORE money from composite than amalgams. Amalgams are dirt cheap, but composites are much more expensive. Sounds like a pretty good business model to help spread the fear and misinformation.

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