Well come on Wizman , you just said there is no sense in an open dialogue with them and if you've notice I dont even try to! They come on like they are the Word and all knowing and they admit they dont have a clue about what we are talking about so how can you include me as one of the childish ones ! Although I have no problem with that referance but just trying to understand you, what do you really mean or are you just trying to mediate a un metiatable circumstance! lol! I would have liked to see the string that was started by Miss Daizt to have continued onto an educated dialogue but the numbered one did not, so all he has to do is post! Easy to disrupt but tougher to keep the flow of things going with that kind of poster on board! He is not here to indulge in dialogue but to be a stone in the shoe and make this forum slow its pace, nothing more nothing less!