i am not a woman, nor do i believe that women should keep quiet in church, or anywhere else for that matter. i am simply asking Ev to explain her answer as i don't follow her reasoning. its a question of how you interpret the bible, how do you say this verse here does NOT apply today because its a "cultural thing," whereas this verse over there DOES apply today and its NOT a cultural thing. see? i am asking about a specific issue here, do you have anything to add to the conversation?