Hello, Congratulation on your first book and best of luck.   [End]
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Hello, Congratulations on your first book.   [End]
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I am confused.   [End]
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”What you gonna do when u retire from Boxing ?” Muhammed Ali Clay responds [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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Keep in mind BTDT, the Word of God that hung on the cross and the word of God that speaks in the bible both having part in the Holy Spirit. Psalm 33:8Let all the earth fear the LORD; Let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of Him. 9For He spoke, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast. 10The LORD nullifies the counsel of the nations; He frustrates the plans of the peoples. Hebrews 11:3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. Genesis 1:3 And God said, ”Let there be light ...
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To all fellow truth lovers, The ”Word of God” hung on the cross (we read the ”word of truth, it is the gospel of our salvation). There is alot of REAL truth to be discovered after 2,000 years of satan’s lies. When the Jews left Egypt, they brought with them many pagan beliefs and practices (that is why they built the golden calf), so The Lord divorced Israel and called them the “faithless ones”. When God was speaking to Ezekiel about the “faithless”, Ezekiel was effectively being told not to rebuke or respond to them. God said “I will answer them MYSELF”. The Pharisee ...
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To all fellow truth lovers, The ”Word of God” hung on the cross (we read the ”word of truth, it is the gospel of our salvation). There is alot of REAL truth to be discovered after 2,000 years of satan’s lies. When the Jews left Egypt, they brought with them many pagan beliefs and practices (that is why they built the golden calf), so The Lord divorced Israel and called them the “faithless ones”. When God was speaking to Ezekiel about the “faithless”, Ezekiel was effectively being told not to rebuke or respond to them. God said “I will answer them MYSELF”. The Pharisee ...
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What is the word of God? When you hear people say what does the word say,we’re referring to what God said,an how can we possibley no what God said?easy by reading the Bible which is the inspired word of God, it is God breathed,but first an for most u have to establish a relationship with christ threw the Bible an asking him to come into your heart an life an to give you the spirit of wisdom an revelations so that u may come to know him,an you will find that he is love,infinite an perfect love,greater than any love we can imagine,an God demonstrated his love for us,while we we’re sinners,ev ...
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What is ”Word of God” and how can you be so sure it is not just another deception ?   [End]
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I copied this off of the Amazon Ad and would like to comment on it: ”In this book, you will get answers. You will walk alongside real people who have had Near-Death Experiences (NDEs), and look through their eyes as they confront death. You will understand what awaits us at the other end. You will see what they have seen, and you will live to tell their stories.” I do not believe that you can trust the NDEs of people for truth. People should understand that there is a supernatural spiritual world that battles for our souls. Many of these experiences are deception in order to get peop ...
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Thad, Congratulations on your first book. How do you publish your book? Do you need a publisher? Do you have to trade mark it? Also how does it cover your expenses? It is only 0.99c. Thanks, Archus   [End]
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Hello everyone: just published my first book on Kindle and would love it if you could check it out. The topic is one I’ve been fascinated with for a while and I’m curious how my research stacks up against your experiences. Unfortunately, it won’t let me post a link, but you can get it by going to Amazon and searching for ”Near Death: What You See Before You Die,” by Thad Sustenance. http://www.amazon.com/Near-Death-Before-Experience-afterlife-ebook/dp/B019YYIZLS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451574323&sr=8-1&keywords=Near+Death%3A+What+You+See+Before+You+Die Thanks! Thad   [End]
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I’m an assistant producer for a television production company called Dragonfly Film and Television, a multi award winning factual TV company based in London in the UK, who regularly produce films for international broadcasters including National Geographic, The Discovery Channel, The BBC and PBS. I am contacting you today as we are currently producing a documentary exploring the Near Death Experience, and are looking for people who have experienced one to potentially contribute to our film. We are incredibly keen to include first person accounts of near death experiences in the film ...
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I can give you details for hours upon hours upon hours about my own NDE...   [End]
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I love his description of giant butterflies, in his NDE’s.   [End]
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Are these glimpses of the after-life? 2014-10-19, Daily Mail Posted: 2014-11-03 01:29:38 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2799385/glimpses-life-brain-surgeon-t... Neurosurgeon Dr Eben Alexander was convinced out-of-body experiences were hallucinations — until he went into a coma himself and had what he now believes was a glimpse of heaven. Dr Alexander, who has taught at Harvard Medical School, reveals many others have also seen what he described. Dr. Alexander: A near-death experience will change your life in more ways than one. It means you have surviv ...
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I follow ”The God of Infinite Complexity”, which means reality is actually infinite complex beyond anyone’s ponder and fathom. The meanings included in our thoughts and talking, the way we think and talk, would be considered too simple and maybe stupid in the long future. So based on my humble faith, I would like to say the explanation to nde, and the truth behind this phenomenon could have three kinds of possibilities: First possibility, so many documented nde cases suggest and lead to such possibility that human mind and the thingy which is often refered to as ”self” or ”ego”, could re ...
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So many people believe that they are only their body.  Not true.  We are each an eternal spirit residing in our individual bodies, our temples for our current lifetime. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/14/neurosurgeon-has-headache-that-leads-to-trip-to-heaven-sees-millions-of-butterflies-who-speak-to-him-book/ Neurosurgeon has headache that leads to trip to heaven, sees millions of butterflies: book Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:34 EDT Eban Alexander’s quick trip to heaven started with a headache. It was November 2008 and a rare bacterial meningitis was fas ...
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Thanks for your response Rudi. It makes sense but doesn’t make it true. It is true for you though. I get confused sometimes about these nde’s because some line up with the bible and others don’t. You had a great experience in the ligh and others I have read did go to a dark place that is described as hell. Gotta find my own way. God Bless!   [End]
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Your quote says,”Jesus says,’ I am the way , the truth and the light and the only way to the father is through me.’” I have read the bible many times. There are words within that pop out at me and I would say those words remind me of or are similar to ’The Light’ I met in heaven and there are other words in it that are dead words to me that have no light whatsoever in them... I met an orb of light in heaven who I frequently call Yahshua. While your quote may be from someone with a similar name or even attributed to the same name... and while those words were somewhat true for me ...
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Just wondering what is your take on the bible Rudy and some of the things that Jesus says Like I am the way , the truth and the light and the only way to the father is through me.   [End]
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Mark Dohle’s post tells a real life story about parenting that is touching my spirit this morning. http://www.ndespace.com/profiles/blogs/parental-pain?xg_source=activity I had an email from a friend that somewhat explains why there are such extremes and still some of us our trying to change the system we now live in into something else. I am paraphrasing this from another NDE Experiencer that said ’there is currently a polarized consciousness and unity consciousness over which Source rules. Polarized consciousness is the operating program that has ruled our life experiences in the era ...
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In my NDE, I met a being I called ’God’ but that name really didn’t fit. I use that word ’God’ interchangeably with ’The Light’ but it really is not ’God.’ I see ’The Light’ as sum of all spiritual light... All that said, I understood in my NDE, when I lined back up with all of the other orbs of light then falling into time that there were many agreed upon ways of perceiving whatever it is on the other side... Souls(orbs) choose their parents and they often choose parents who do not have a fleshly belief in a ’God’ per sey. But it doesn’t matter... one way or the other... When an Athe ...
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An NDE or STE can both transform us or enslave us. For me, it is both. I play by a different set of rules than I did before. Before my NDE, I was a golden child... the world loved me... I was being groomed as a fine young murderer... a killer for God... Following my NDE, I knew God was love and never intended anyone to kill for her. God loved the very people I would kill. That was the transformative part of my NDE. I came back with a different currency... Love in my NDE was the only thing that survived being exposed to the perfect ’Light.’ I might still do things for recreation but for the ...
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So is all the hate. We are playing in a polarity game that seeks balance.   [End]
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there is no wound that love cannot heal ~ all the love in the world in within your heart   [End]
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I work with blind adults and children. Often times, I am their only contact with people outside of their families and sometimes those families are dysfunctional. I try to help them with independence but sometimes they begin to depend on me. It is painful to disengage but as a teacher I must not allow my students to depend on me for their happiness. The light I met in a Near Death Experience I had also wanted me to learn about love.... even though that light was the sum of all love... I have felt abandoned by the light at times and still I wake up each morning joyful... filled with hope. ...
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Yes I totally agree. The only difference in our thinking currently seems to be that I think god is just a source energy and has no intent and that god is happening all around in a myriad of experiences. All constructs are of that source and there is no separation. If there is a separate god with an agenda that would make them worse that all the suffering that ever existed because they set it in motion and allow it to continue without intervention. The only rational explanation is that there is no god personality, just infinite potential/energy that is shaped for experience.   [End]
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lol... The tunnel is much like that colon cleanse. I believe that parasite you refer to is often called God by the religious.... but there are higher truths not dependent on dark energy...   [End]
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I’ll join you in that endeavor. And if this is an inter-dimensional parasitic infestation here, which I think it is, I vow to administer a colonic to this realm. ;-)   [End]
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I for one want to end returning to dimensions of less light.   [End]
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”This dimension of pain and tears allows a soul to grow more than in other dimensions where the lessons are more subtle.” Grow into what? What is the end prize or is it just a movable carrot leading a horse infinitely? Negative loosh works that way. A promise is held up like a notion of ”learning.” There really are just parameters within this life construct and these can be set anyway within an infinite potential construct. We can be influenced by the makers of these set parameters or we can not be fooled by the makers of them and retain freedom. Now if there are parasites that fe ...
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In my NDE, I lined up with other souls to return to my body. I had the distinct understanding that I had done this many times before. I posted this in the NDE Support Forum but I also wanted to post it here to see if your ’loosh’ idea and my concept are similar. I am willing to accept your argument that we are tricked into falling into this dimension. I feel betrayed. I do sense though that if I can embed in my soul a firm message to not return to this dimension of partial light that my soul can move on. I have been a teacher for these last ten years or so. My teaching method is not the ...
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I see a bottom line. Struggle. What is the need for that conscious circuit? We are drawn along with promise of this or that or a brief moment of something ”nice” but the entire conveyor belt that draw along is one of survival. Try not eating for a while. ;-) Then not only must most eat, they do so at the expense of other beings (animals, plants, etc). This intermeshing is not a kind system. Again I encourage people to research the term Loosh 9especially negative loosh) It may very well be that we are under the impression that our soul ”needs” to evolve when this may just be a pl ...
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‘The Sky is Falling’ or Just What is 2012? In my NDE, on my way back to my body, I watched the whole history, present and future of the earth. I watched while an age and then age after age passed. The earth began as a place full of light but then again, toward the end of the earth’s existence as a physical place, earth changed back into a light filled planet. The refreshed earth was then much as it was in the beginning, when the earth just popped up where it is out of nothing. As I watched the earth become light filled, I did not receive any special knowledge about an exact date for ... [Image Embedded Here]
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I don’t really like polarity. Our souls believe there is no ill because they are not experiencing it but I believe there is coming a mass movement toward the end result of the experiment... still in time but lighter... an evolution of sorts... I understood from the Library with every spirit and soul’s life that every event is planned before we were born... We are much like scientists making a very complex chemistry formula... There are dozens of variables for some events and up to billions or more of variables... when decisions we make affect billions of other souls and spirits. Does th ...
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Your words resonates with me. Thanks for your reply. I _really_ appreciate it, provoking great thoughts as always. ”One fine day they will surrender to love.” That’s the ultimate hope and wish I could ever think of, at least while on this plane... iNan (Sebastian)   [End]
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Wew are like radio tuners. We can tune into any experience within the scope of infinite potential. The circuit requires negative and positive fore the flow to occur. Some call that polarity. Without the polarity there would be no experience as we know it. The light compares itself against the dark. All of it is god (infinite potential).   [End]
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I love what you say about a bag over your head... What a fantastic metaphor.   [End]
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You can tune into any experience you chose within the structure of infinite potential/god. Therefore one can choose a faux separation, but you can never be disconnected. It just seems that way by choice. It’s like being blind because you put a bag over your head. Choose to take the bag off again and all is seen. It was always there , you just chose to obscure the view.   [End]
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iNan ’1- I refuse to believe in a God/Love that could create something that was able to ”lose” itself. Maybe there are lower vibration souls that are learning as we all do. At their own slow speed... So, it may take 1000s of lifes but they’ll get ”there” (they will love).’ R- Considering there is no linear time... perhaps ’The Light’ has immersed itself in darkness in millions of minor aspects of itself and they are all happening simultaneously... God is learning how to become God. When and where time ends, all souls(and all souls are made out of light) have grown into timelessness and ...
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It’s been a while. I’ve researching, experiencing, talking, meditating about NDEs for years and years. I’ve got my very own positive experiences of love and beyond. The only thing I can’t still figure out is this: Is it true that there are ”souls” (people) that will be lost forever? I know that it is flaw premise, because I know what timeless is. I know how it feels to be immersed in that Light-Love-Care-Home feeling-state. Bt I believe you may get the idea.- Some NDErs talk about dark souls playing a role the game of life. In fact the interaction with us at some point in life ...
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”I understood, reflecting on my NDE, religion can be useful if it guides one to love others, heal others, have empathy and compassion for others and love one’s self enough to not eat just candy and chicken nuggets not because one will go to hell if they don’t but because every moment in our life review where we are loving to ourselves and others is a gift from the light that if we receive it is ’saved’ and is added to who God=Love is...” Love the entire message, and especially the quoted words. I believe this ”dimension” is a sea of contrast. A great opportunity to grow/learn/love... S ...
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Wow, what a fantastic reply. Thanks for posting Rudenski!!!   [End]
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Gandhi said, ”The world has enough for everyone’s needs, but not enough for even a single person’s greed.” A child would just eat candy every meal and chicken nuggets if they could choose their meals. Parents and Religions look for ways to tame their wild out of control children. ”Hell is a ’place’ where bad children go” is used overtly and covertly by some parents and religions as a means to tame their children. Children tend to imitate the behaviors of their parents and their parent’s religion. If a parent or religion creates a fear and punishment based system of educating their child ...
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I can help you, send me the description   [End]
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I know that ’a feeling’ is not what ’The Light’ is and still love can be found within that feeling that will be added to what God=Love is. Physical love fails. I came back telling everyone I loved them, got married, had three children and thought I was happily married and then my wife went crazy spending money using credit cards after she became depressed and my whole world became turned upside down... Everything just spiraled into oblivion... I lost my family... my home... my job... broke my neck again... and became homeless... with no one... not even my own family... to turn to... I begg ...
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"I experienced that I had to learn the lessons of love..." I understand Love as a Force, rather than only a a feeling. There’s a point where emotions doesn’t ’work’ as we are know them... My question is (and please correct me if I’m wrong): You’ve mentioned that "The Light" asked you about Love and if you had learned enough about it. In your NDE you immediately thought about "human" love, but it seems that the human love was not the kind of love the Light was asking for... Right? ...I’ve felt in love early in my life since I was young -and comp ...
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I Do you see that TV series named Lost? About 15 years ago, I I quit watching television but I continued to play chess most every day, online. I was spiritually offended by the pervasive teaching of ’little white lies’ and justifiable violence... but I look back on it now and realize that my violent outlet was in my obsession with chess. Chess uses language of war using terms like offense, defense, blitz as if it is war on a battlefield. I was critical of violent video games but used my own version. Recently, after over ten years and 10’s of thousands of online chess games, I quit chess. T ...
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Perhaps one is hoodwinked in coming back under the guise of ”spiritual attainment.” This is like a carrot leading a horse that is unable to ever reach the carrot, but the energy given off in the struggle is the commonality of the collective experience. it is common to all things in nature. Research the term ”loosh” and see if this resonates with you.   [End]
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Great post. Do you see that TV series named Lost? Sometimes it feels like we are pawns on a chessboard. I know it is not like that at all, but -sometimes- from our current human point of view it may feel like that. When we are on the other side, so to speak, we feel ”Yeah! I can do that!!”... then, when we are back on this plane we scream ”Oh No! What I was thinking !!!!!!” Cheers!   [End]
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http://profezie3m.altervista.org/archivio/TheLancet_NDE.htmNear-death experience in survivors of cardiac arrest: a prospective study in the Netherlands Pim van Lommel, Ruud van Wees, Vincent Meyers, Ingrid Elfferich Division of Cardiology, Hospital Rijnstate, Arnhem, Netherlands (P van Lommel MD); Tilburg, Netherlands (R van Wees PhD); Nijmegen, Netherlands (V Meyers PhD); and Capelle a/d Ijssel, Netherlands (I Elfferich PhD) Correspondence to: Dr Pim van Lommel, Division of Cardiology, Hospital Rijnstate, PO Box 9555, 6800 TA Arnhem, Netherlands (e-mail:pimvanlommel@wanadoo.nl) ...
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A Near Death Experience changed my understanding of my own religion. I have read the Jewish and Christian texts and can only conclude that there are two beings called ’God’ in it. One is a brutal murderous being who wants an eye for an eye. He could also be called ’karma.” There is not much give and take with this being. There are universal laws that state that if you give then you will get back... but I met the other being called ’God’ in the Bible but she/he did not even carry that name very well because of the baggage of that name. The other ’God’ is the God who is love. Everyone knows ...
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Post NDE, I would say that knowing of my immortality(that part of me that is love), and then seeing the world in fluctuations of auras of dark and light, I was given a gift to know both time and timelessness. I know the light is love and loves the love in all persons, places and things... I understand those things are timeless and indestructible... but I also understood that some things(unlove) will not survive in time. I saw the whole history and future of the earth. It starts of mostly light but then it mostly fluctuates between 2/3rds light and 1/3rd darkness up until toward the end it ...
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What if instead of searching in other religions to find where they went wrong, religious studies and even the anti-religious would look to find where the other chooses love? It would make for a better day ahead in my humble opinion. In the light, in my Near Death Experience, I knew what it was that divided one person from the other and it was not their religion but their love... I knew that our loving kindnesses, joys, basic fondness’s, gentle moments of interactive sharing of love in relationship, the awe and admiration of the beauty of nature... these things and anything else related ...
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You were right! (See other NDE Forum)...   [End]
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I have a feeling we will see ya around. Wishing you the best in all in your endeavors!   [End]
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Refreshed you are a light and refreshing soul, very inspirational post Thank you!! Alan   [End]
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Observer, What do you mean, are you on some sort of medication or is English not your mother tongue?? Perplexed!! Alan   [End]
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Yep I did - Thx eom   [End]
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Hello Everyone - I have decided to leave the NDE forums. You are an amazing group of souls - and I appreciate your love and understanding. Light, Love and Joy Orbie   [End]
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Let me use your statement to make my point. ”to continue the growth - one must shine that light on darkness and the growth comes from your light not dimming from the interaction.” Ok, in my way of thinking, this is a very personal journey. My light grows because of that personal journey. We share our time, love with many different people in the course of our lives. Why should I leave out my neighbors and not expose them to my light? Is it only for me? Isn’t it to be used for the greater good of mankind? The children’s song... ”Hide it under a bushel...No!...I’m gonna let it s ...
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The answer came - Was not a paradox - Judgment through the spirit of god’s type love moving one into action - not in conflict with grace teaching... Got it  - thx again Mr inner spirit This is so cool TheObserver   [End]
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ORB, MY NDE had absolutely no Christian perspectives, I never saw Christ or God I just asked the being of light with me personal no relious questions. I despise dogma n any form , Christian or otherwise. I am a free thinker and make up my own truth based on my own learning and knowledge Alan   [End]
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You see I am cough in a paradox with my belief system - here it is: I have to not judge IF I am to walk in grace which is the foundation of my spiritual growth. Saying something is good or bad is a judgment which causes me to fall out of grace..... I said fine and just give it all to the holy spirit to judge and set the world straight as gods plan unfolds. Or you could say the design of the source unfolds... BUT PROBLEM IS I am now "feeling" moved to action - but the action is stemmed from a perception of righteous judgment (which seems like an oxymoron statement in i ...
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What is our purpose??? To live by the Fruit of the Spirit, which is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ That is a wonderful statement. I would just have to add something which I feel is very true for "you" and me :) Yes this is what to manifest - once you can do this - you may now leave the "spiritual hospital" IE the church body and go into the world and let your light shine. But obviously gradually. How easy to manifest love when ...
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Hey T.O. - good to hear from you... Now - then - ultimately - and I say ”ULTIMATELY” - it does not matter to God=Love that ”you” are ”good” or ”bad”. He/She can ONLY see GOOD, anyway - and can’t even see it when you do ”bad,” because it is impossible for Her/Him to see anything but LOVE. In essence, ”you” are not committing bad and good acts, the spirits that are attached to you in this world are the ones who are doing the committing. In the eyes of the Librarian, however - the one who ”punishes” you when you do ”bad” and ”rewards” you when you do ”good,” well that’s a different ...
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I received what I believe a truth - though I can not manifest it in my life (yet)  :) Maybe someone here can help me and explain how this can be: Being "good" is just as bad as being "bad".  that was the realization....  You see i was always on the ride of wright and angered by those who would not follow the rules etc...  And this came to me about 2 months ago ......................Being "good" is just as bad as being "bad".  that was the realization.......................... I believe this is only based on the pe ...
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That if all of those Catholic Christian popes (and other notable and non-notable Christians) who have been responsibile through the ages for horrendeous crimes of murder - if all of THEM are allegedly in Heaven, then so must be Hitler. But you see, that is the point. It was NOT THE SOULS of those Popes, et all, and it was NOT THE SOUL of Hitler who were responsible for all those dreadful deeds, it was their ATTACHED EARTHLY SPIRITS - some of which were quite EVIL. THOSE EVIL SPIRITS that were on the Popes and Hitler - it is THOSE EVIL SPIRITS that created HELL on EARTH...and then af ...
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The horrible truth is that, numerically and statistically speaking, Christian Civilization is the bloodiest and most violent of all civilizations in all of history, and is responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths. Saint Augustine’s cognite intrare (”lead them in”—i.e. ”force them to convert”). Augustine’s frightening idea that all must be compelled to ”conform” to the ”true Christian faith” has unleashed centuries of unparalleled bloodshed. Indeed, Christians have suffered more under the rule of Christian civilization than under pre-Christian Roman rule or any other rule in his ...
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It’s okay if you’re irritated with me, Alan. The spirit of irritation is just merely one of your attachments here on Earth. I got a million of ’em. Now, then - you thinking that Earth is not hell is merely based on your Christian perspective. So, of course, you NDE would be from a Christian perspective - because that is what your perception on Earth has been. As to the particular Jewish references you made, they too, - as with any negative thought, have nothing to do with Heaven. My point: I am not saying that Christianity is the only ”religion” that mispercieves the truth o ...
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ORBS, You said ”Hi Alan - I respectfully disagree with you. You are not more ”spiritually” developed than I”. My reply to you below:: I never said I was more spiritually developed than you I Said ”I WAS FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD OF LIFE” I am getting a little irritated with you, you continue to make wild personal statements as if they were the fact. You don’t know this and what you post is your own belief system open to scrutiny just like mine. Again the EARTH is not HELL cant you read? And that statement has nothing to do with Christianity or my belief system , it is just ...
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If I knew how, I would, but since I don’t, I’m asking [And see Alan? I don’t know EVERYTHING? :)] Could somebody who’s artistically inclinded (and then who knows how to tranfer that graphic here and post it) - could you maybe please literally - and figuratively :) - draw a picutre of a our Souls going to Heaven as I have explained it...with the not-so-nice spirits falling off into the dark void - and our bodies remaining in the Earth? I kind of explained it all metamorphically with my post about my Mom going to Heaven (and the whole ”Rocket into Space” thing). But I think it would ...
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Hi Alan - I respectfully disagree with you. You are not more ”spiritually” developed than I. For that is impossible. You are unwilling to see beyond your Christian perspective and understand that the way to Heaven is through Love - and not (only) through ”Jesus”. As I once explained in my MESSAGE OF LIGHT: ”Jesus was God Incarnate on Earth. As the Son of God, He was and is the Awesome Deliverer. As the Son of Man, He was and is everything that each of us should aspire to be in/on this Earth realm. As a Human Being, he was one of the kindest to ever have lived. As a Historical ...
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”Hi Alan - I based such statements on the truth of logic and the logic of truth - after years of meditation and praying for discernment” My reply to the above comments of yours:: I know you are sincere but sometimes one can be sincerely wrong We must learn from each other and advance ever closer to perfect truth, Non of us have all the truth, but I think collective we will come much closer. Of course we cant all agree on every point how boring the forum would become if we were Dear Orb I Think I am further down the road of life than you are and have also meditated , p ...
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Thanks, The Observer...you sound like you got it all together... The Orbster....:)   [End]
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Hi OrbOfLight Thanks for your post. I have read some of Edgar Cayce and enjoyed it so much that I intended to contact the local chapter here in Austin. But as usual I didn’t follow through :). So easy to get side tracked with "life"... Anyway I will jot down the books and get them... Thanks TheObserver   [End]
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Hi Alan - I based such statements on the truth of logic and the logic of truth - after years of meditation and praying for discernment. What you saw was your perception of hell and the dark void as your consciousness on Earth came to know them. But in either case, the fact remains: ALL Souls go (return) to Heaven - and only the negative spirits and bodies are thrust (back) to ”Hell” (Earth, to burn again in worm bodies) and/or to the Dark Void for all ”eternity” (though ”time” as we know it will ultimately ”end” - when either the New Heaven comes to Earth - and some of us live ”i ...
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Yes Marjorie, When God created the earth it was perfect and unimaginably beautiful. Much of this beauty has been loved due to humanities interference. When God had finished creating the heaven and the earth he WAS VERY PLEASED AND BLESSED IT But if we go out of the city into the country side we see only beauty all around us. We have to look carefully to see any ugliness. By the way I Never leave this forum , I am always reviewing the threads and commenting when I feel it is necessary. Keep up the good work members of the curezone NDE Forum God Bless Alan   [End]
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ORBS, How can you make this as a statement of truth? What is your sources? I have died and seen both the void and hell and they are very different places Alan   [End]
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THE ORIGINS OF AMEN Years ago, Shirley MacLaine caused all kind of controversies when she told the story of how she stood upon the rocky seashore in Malibu, and exclaimed, ”I Am God!” Everyone SO took it the wrong way, and thought that Ms. MacLaine was proclaiming her superior awesomeness. Well...no. That’s not what she was proclaiming at all. What she was indeed proclaiming was OUR EQUAL superior awesomeness WITH God. Truth be told, ”I Am God” is a translation of AMEM, which is a translation of the Himalayan chant, ”AUM,” which is a translation of the Indian chant, ”OM.” ...
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Earth is Gaia...a mere reflection of Heaven, darkened by the ”Spirits” (of addiction, anger, etc) that enwrap our bodies (which are burning in hell as we speak). The Earth has many lovely spots...which may be viewed as hints of what is available in Heaven. But the Earth is also filled with horribly vaporous and evil places that are littered with killers, rapists, cheaters, liers, and other such horrible spirits that possess us. No such things exist in Heaven. It is impossible for such things to exist in Heaven. But not so on Earth. However, the Earth is indeed in the proc ...
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Hi Alan, I’m blessed to see you back! Yes, the earth is not hell. God made it and He made it filled in nature with glorious things that give him pleasure. The forests, the oceans the mountains, all the diversity of flora and fauna. I know he takes pleasure in the beautiful gardens and inventions we make that glorify him (and new edifying and healing web sites (: !). Yes, there are still bad people on earth that do bad things to God’s creation, but it isn’t hell. It is up to us to alleviate as much suffering that bad men have perpetrated on one another as possible. In hell, no one will a ...
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And you are correct: Hell and the Dark Void are two different places. Hell is Earth. The Dark Void is The Dark Void.   [End]
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The Earth is filled with Good Loving SOULS, encassed in bodies that burn with Spirits engulfing them.   [End]
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Orbs, The earth is not hell ,it is full of good loving kind person and amazing worder and beauty. Cant you see that. Hell is hell the void is not hell I have seen hell and there is only hopelessness and despair there. While on earth you can always feel God within yourself. If God abandoned you for one moment the utter hopelessness would be unspeakably awful Alan   [End]
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Geographically, Earth is Hell. Via Reincarnation, Earth is Hell. We will continue to ”fall” into bodies that burn (in hell) until we get it right: Until we understand that LOVE is the answer to Everything. Then we ”go” (up) to Heaven - and return to the Light. As to the Dark Void at the end of time: There are three parts to us: The Soul, Spirits, and the Body. When we die, the Soul returns to Heaven (from whence it came); the Spirits (all that is negative and not so positive about us; addictions, anger, etc. are banished to the Dark Void - or sometimes remain on E ...
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Beautifully said refreshed. Not much more I can add to that. Love, Marj   [End]
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I think that’s wonderful that people come back with purpose. I guess for the rest of us that have not had a NDE, we have had to learn to find our purpose in other ways. I know I found purpose through my family, friends, church, bible, work, play and most of all through my relationship with God. God will speak to us in so many ways and if we listen, we will have doors opened up to us to be able to find our purpose. Of course the world has it’s own idea of what a ”good” purpose is. Many times it is fame, fortune, or to do something great to be seen by the world. I find my purpose ...
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Below please find a link to a page, entitled, ”Love and Life Purpose are Intertwined,” which highlights the message of various well-known NDE authors and their books. The most important message of each being that LOVE is our ONLY true purpose. That’s it. Not worshiping religion, or going to church. Just loving each other. Religion and church only have their place if they increase Love, which is defined at its core by UNCONDITIONAL LOVE; not ”maybe love” - not ”I’ll only love you if you believe what I do”...not ”I’ll only love you if you love me.” But - UNCONDITIONAL Love. I plac ...
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Forgive me if that is your perception. That is not my intention.   [End]
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Your message just defines ”ego” as in yours, as far as I can see.   [End]
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I worship no one or no thing - except Love...and I mean no condescension. But the truth is the truth. You cannot measure your knowledge with mine - as I have studied and read hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of books of spirituality...and diverse religions. And it all comes down (or up) to LOVE. Wherever there is not Love, there is no God of Love. Pouring molten gold down the mouths of women and children have nothing to do with Love...killing babies - as was so ”instructed by a ”god” - throughout the Bible - has nothing to do with Love. One nation turning agains ...
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Unless you care to share your real personal name with me, I ask that you please not use mine, especially in such a condescending manner. And I respectfully disagree with everything you say. You say it with no authority, only an idolship of Rudy. Have your own vision at least.   [End]
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Thanks Refreshed, I do remember my receptionist saying that is why we traditionally bury bodies so that when the Lord returns they will rise up to face him. The there was this discussion about cremation, accidents, etc. and everyone figured God can gather the parts of us that are scattered and it doesn’t matter if we are cremated. Some people don’t believe in it though, and I respect that. I just don’t like the idea of slowly ah, degrading. Anyway, there is apparently, a part of us in our bodies that God wants to reuse or save to make our glorified bodies. Even though I am sure it soun ...
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Unfortunately - though Rudy has not confirmed this one way or the other...yes - I do believe that the Librarian is who we have come to know as ”Satan”.... ”The Father of Lies” But this is not blasphemy as I am not blaspheming God=Love. I am ”insulting”, for lack of a better of term, an entity who THINKS he’s a ”god” - and who has lead us to believe that he is THEE ”God” - which he is not.   [End]
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So in your beliefs if there is only one God and a christian called the Librarian satan, wouldn’t that be the same thing as blaspheming God to you? The following scripture is why christians would view the Librarian as satan. Matt 12: 22Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. 23All the people were astonished and said, ”Could this be the Son of David?” 24But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, ”It is only by Beelzebub, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.” 25Jesus knew th ...
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Indeed. Rudy’s Librarian is my Librarian and our Librarian. I have studied NDEs for over twenty five years...from all religions and spiritual beliefs. I had many questions about my experience of this life and it was only in reading and studying Rudy’s experience that I came to understand the truth of our reality on Earth. You may debate this all you want, my dear Marjorie, but the truth is the truth. The Librarian is the God of this world - and we have been duped by Him. It is our job now to bring Light to this world and even to the Librarian. Though, it matters little in ...
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Orb, I believe the only place I have ever heard this term ”Librarian” as a synonym for a seonc lesser God. Or, for that matter that there IS a second lesser God is from Rudy. Those are his terms from a personal revelation HE had that he is still working through, They are not terms that have meaning or truth to anyone else, unless you are saying you have had the same experience as Rudy, I think to state these things as fact for everyone is at the very least misguided. To tell me unequivocally there is not a hell, even one that is of our own making is not something you are qualified t ...
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There is indeed only one God in the reality of Heaven...but filtered through the illusion of Earth...”God” is translated as many aspects...Higher...Lower...Female...Male...androgynus As such, there are two ”voices” of ”God” in the Bible... Yah which is God=Love and The Librarian which is merely God. The Librarian is the ”Jealous God” For if Highest Aspect of God = Love, and Love is never jealous then there can be no true ”Jealous God” Thus the ”Jealous” god is not the ”real” God of Heaven. The God of Heaven is God=Love.   [End]
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I will have to study and see where the name Yah comes from. I know as a christian we believe there is only one God, and this one God is in three persons. God the Father God the Son (Jesus Christ) God the Holy Spirit The persons are distinct yet they are one. The Father is God and is the first person of the trinity. The Son is God and the secound person of the trinity. The Holy Spirit is God and is the third person of the trinity. God is not 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 God is 1 X 1 X 1 = 1 So is Yah another name for Jesus or ”I AM”?   [End]
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”Naked” here refers to ”ignorance”. In Heaven, we will have wisdom. When we die, our bodies remain and decay and then ultimately dissolve in the Earth (which will one day be no more). Our ”spirits” (anger, greed, addictions, etc.) burn away in the Light of God=Love (or they sometimes remain behind as what the living perceive as ”ghosts). Our SOULS go straight to Heaven...unless we are tricked once more to come back to ”Hell” (otherwise known as ”Earth”)   [End]
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The God Of Love (Yah) that runs the Universe does not torture people. The God of this world (the Librarian) does.   [End]
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This doesn’t address feeling pain in the spirit but it talks about when we get our glorified bodies. Do Christians receive glorified bodies immediately after they die? Second Corinthians 5:6-8 makes it clear that the believer is ushered directly into the presence of God upon death. Paul argues that ”to be absent from the body” is tantamount to being ”present with the Lord.” Jesus sounded a similar theme when He told the thief on the cross ”today you will be with Me in Paradise” (Luke 23:43). The paradise Jesus referred to is synonymous with heaven. However, Scripture also teaches ...
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That is kind of a mystery, because we are supposed to get a glorified body at some point. So it is a body, like I have read you may eat if you like, though you don’t need to. You may be touched. Like Jesus could not be touched before he ascended, but he could be after he came back in various appearances. But, if there is a hell, would those that were made to, or chose to be there (I still don’t know that answer) have these same bodies? There is no pain in heaven, whether the ability to feel it is there, I doubt it. I still find it very hard to believe God would decide to torture people ...
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Well, I can only assume the spirit body can feel things....but not boil....I mean, there would be no actual damage....it only seems logical that if you are not in the physical world, you are not going to have physical damage....this would hold true whether you believe in hell or not.  Otherwise, how could torment go on for ever and ever? I really don’t know, however, my estimation of such things, is that physical sensations are no longer primary.  Most of what you experience is telepathic...sight, sound, emotions....things like hot and cold, pain and physical pl ...
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Hey Raynbo, you made me wonder now. Can the spirit body feel pain? Not to say they don’t but you only think of the physical body as feeling pain.   [End]
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I didn’t realize my post and been popped from the plain ol forum to the debate forum, so I hve not responded to anyone’s replies.  (I thought it had been considered to be a nasty post for some reason and so it was deleted...but apparently the line between discussion and debate in this venue is miiiiighty thin!  (Not a complaint, just an observation.) I posted this as a question to try to get clear on whether there is such a thing as hell or not.  My feeling is there is not, but then I am not a religious person.  Most religions are very into h ...
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During my Near Death event, I saw lower region of darkness for dark depraved souls.It is they that have put themselves there not God. In the afterlife it is all about birds of a feather flock together. I perceive you as a loving person of light and you have absolutely nothing to fear. Indeed death will lead you into great wonders Like the Bible says Death where is your sting, absent from the body and present with the Lord Alan   [End]
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Indeed, dear friend, indeed. And thank you for ”seeing” what I have oh so gently and subtly have been trying to say. Love (Yah) sees us when we let our Light shine. Our Light shines only when our thoughts are illuminated. Illumination is born in the Light. It is an exescapable and beautiful parodox. And yet simply stated, there is one indelible ”law” of the Universe (the You-and-I-in-verse), based on Yah’s greatest gift to us: Free Will. Such that, whatever we concentrate on, expands...concentrate on the darkness (negative) and things get worse; concentrate on the Light (positive) ...
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I think on the Infinite, All Merciful,Unchanging, Forgiving One Love, the one some call Yah-Love. I ask to be filled to overflowing with as much of this Love as I can sustain and give and give and give it abundantly. I cannot fathom what changes might over a me if I would live in fear of a hell; if I am motivated by fear, and in living a life driven by fear, could I not become fear itself?// Perhaps as our bodies are what we eat(some say) our beings are what we think about.// Yet as I tremble for those who live daily in fear(of a hell), what of those of us who live daily in a more subtle f ...
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Orb of Light, your simple message says all. Seek the light. Think on things that carry the Light; things that are good and true and beautiful and spread luminesce to all. Let us turn from stories of horror and darkness and seek Love, by whatever name we cry out to Infinite, Immortal, Unchanging, Pure Love. Love, blaze light upon us all.   [End]
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