The problem is that this goes back to what I had been saying about how some understand scripture differently. When someone like trapper quotes scripture you never know how he means it. He will use scripture to answer a question to me and I'm wondering if he even understands it like I do or not. If asked about the old topic of whether we can say "I AM" when referring to ourselves...I say no. It's reserved for God alone. By me saying he is not "I AM", I don't know if he thinks I'm saying I don't think he is a believer in Jesus. Which I was not saying. These conversations are like trying to discuss who Jesus is with a Mormon. You won't get the same answer. Some things are the same and others things are not. So it causes confusion. I will gladly apologize if trapper and tomi both say that they are not "I AM", and I will just chalk it up to long-winded debates and me not following correctly.