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Vektek, you said, "But one reason I think it makes a difference in which way you believe, is that if the eternal torment view of hell is wrong, is that not a horrible representation of God's character that is not true?"

Could you not say the same thing about God here?

If God chooses people to go to hell view is wrong, is that not a horrible representation of God's character that is not true? I did not see you or Ed address this. I may have missed your answer.

This question really sums up what I was trying to say in this post:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2295061#i

I think this question really sums up what Refreshed was trying to say in this post:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2294938#i

This is what I did not see answered as I skimmed through the posts. Do you or Ed even have an answer for it?

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