Re: Animal Protein Linked to Increased Diabetes Risk

#21862,
it was a mistake perhaps to have posted in the raw omnivore forum with a study that stated cooked animal protein can cause diabetes, so perhaps an apology is overdue.

Yes I do eat some fish (raw salmon) and cooked organic chicken, but this only constitutes a very small percentage of my diet, which is plant-based.

However, when you say that "There is no difference in eating meat cooked or raw in any form, you're still a consumer of animal flesh", I thought the real distinction being made was whether meat was eaten in the "raw state" or "cooked state", with raw being superior and health-giving, while cooked being inferior and perhaps harmful to health?
This was my rationality, otherwise why is that forum entitled as "raw everything"?


"My commonsense in posting"?
I am not perfect and only human, and therefore prone to mistakes.

I agree with your comments that what you refer to as "religious foodists".....vegetarian, vegan, fruitarian are not sustainable in the long-term; this was my mistake as well, and adopted some meat into my diet within the last couple of years. However, what I do advocate is a plant-based diet (based on plants) but not "exclusively" plants.

Some of the gurus of the past suffered for their principles with Herbert Shelton being a prime example: his myelin sheath had deteriorated thru overwork, and a deficiency of DHA obtainable from fish. He was a Lacto-vegetarian.

Bragg died of an accident apparently while surfing at the age of 91, although there was some doubt about his true age.
He was seen eating meat in restaurants? Any references for this, or proof? or is this just anecdotal evidence perhaps?
Bragg is also on record stating that he let his bodily instincts lead him to his choice of foods, and where this sometimes included the eating of meat as well.

I am not in disagreement with you concerning the consumption of animal flesh, only its "dominance" as a mainstay of the diet, and "how" it is eaten: personally I would find eating raw flesh, including the blood and organs, as distasteful and repugnant, but then this is just my own opinion. If you find that this way of eating is ideal for you, then that is fine of course, and your democratic right in choosing to do so.



According to some research on the moral issue of eating meat, the grains used to feed cattle could be put to much better use...............
The WorldWatch Institute states that, "Meat consumption is an inefficient use of grain—-the grain is used more efficiently when consumed by humans. Continued growth in meat output is dependent on feeding grain to animals, creating competition for grain between affluent meat-eaters and the world's poor."........................
WorldWatch Institute, "United States Leads World Meat Stampede," WorldWatch Institute Online, 2 Jul. 1998.

AND.......
Dr. Waldo Bello, executive director of the Institute for Food and Development Policy, concurs that raising animals for meat is a waste of resources, stating, "The American fast-food diet and the meat-eating habits of the wealthy around the world support a world food system that diverts food resources from the hungry."...........
Robbins, The Food Revolution, p. 290.

These are just two examples of many, and a dilemma for some, (including me).


I do not doubt your assertion that eating raw meat and other raw animal products are beneficial to health, and more so than eating it in the cooked state, but my own personal objection is in eating meat raw, blood, guts and all. Just not that appealing or appetizing I'm afraid.

I would also not have the audacity to claim that my way of eating is in anyway superior to your own and vica-versa, but I have found (like the original Hunzas) a diet that is predominantly plant-based with the addition of some cooked meat is the ideal.

Each to their own.

Best wishes.

Chrisb1.




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