Possible liver flukes and bad breath 
Sputnik72
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Hi
I have had chronic bad breath for over 20 years and it really bad for the past few years. I mean room filling bad breath with a strong fecal smell and taste at the back of my throat. I have also felt like there was something hard at the back of my throat that makes it worse.
I tried everything and recently came upon Dr Clarks anti parasite treatment. The results were astonishing. My bad breath almost instantly disappeared (after 20 yrs, can you imagine!).
Two weeks after I finished the treatment, bad breath came back as bad as it was before. So I got back on the herbs and I have found relief again.
Does anyone have any idea what kind of parasite(s) I have that would cause this? I thought of liver flukes maybe because I found something that looks like Fasciola Hepatica in my toilet bowl one day. It kind of looked like the one on this website:
http://www.stanford.edu/class/humbio103/ParaSites2001/fascioliasis/Fasciola.htm
Look at the small picture in the morphology section. I have also had sesame like things in my stools that were completly whiteas well as others with a black head at the top. I also had things that look like broken corn.
I am at a loss on how they could cause fould breath.
Thanks- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... zoho
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,018,442What makes you think you really have contracted liver flukes without some sort of definitive diagnostics?
-> Do you routinely eat raw or under cooked fish or cow's liver?
-> Do you drink water of questionable purity?
-> Do you wade in rice paddies in Laos?
-> Do you swim in ponds contaminated by cow or sheep feces?
A mature fluke in the liver or intestines produces 20,000+ eggs a day which are excreted into the bowel. The best diagnostic methodology is microscopic examination of trichrome stained slides properly prepared from stool samples in a medical laboratory specialized in parasitology. The Fasciola Hepatica eggs are large in comparison to many parasite ova and have very distinctive identifing charactoristics when viewed with a microscope. Any licensed laboratory technologist who cannot identify them should be fired!- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... sd2345
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,018,455Many who have had definite evidence of flukes in the bowl have had negative tests.
- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... cappy84
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This is a reply to # 2,018,494exactly. stool tests are completely worthless and doctors will not do anything for you. they will treat you like you belong in an asylum if you mention them.
i have liver flukes and let me tell you they seem to be impossible to eliminate. i have tried every single herb, cleanse, flush, diet, and even drugs without a solution. if you do find an answer please share it with me because i want my life back.- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... whkim2010
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This is a reply to # 2,018,510I tested my stools two times from different labs.
both came back negative.
they were totally useless.
because I passed worms in the toilet after tried parasite herb cleans for 2 months.
Do not waste your time and keep taking herbs until you totally clear them out.- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... stefb
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This is a reply to # 2,018,511Have you ever looked into tonsil stones/ plugs? If you google it you can read all about it. They will cause Super bad breath! Basically its bacteria and things that get trapped in the crevices in your tonsils. I know a bunch of people that get them and I have in the past too.
- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... Birk
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This is a reply to # 2,018,519Have you heard of any good ways to get rid of them besides maybe surgery of some sort? I saw something on doctor oz one time where he told a woman she had something like that and he recommended a water pik, but honestly if they are that stuck I dont see how a measly little water pik can work on that? Please help because i think I may be dragon breath at times too. Possibly oral thrush though, as well?
- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... stefb
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This is a reply to # 2,019,256According to what I've read about them, dairy foods are the main food contributor because of all the mucos they cause the body to produce. I've been dairy free now for 13 days and it will be interesting to see if they go away. I've developed a reaction to dairy, so I have to cut it completly out of my diet.
My chronic ear congestion clears up after they come out. Possibly dairy related too.
As for the water pik, I have one and have gotten them out with it before. I use distilled warmed water and some hydrogen peroxide in the water tank on machine. The only problem is the water force is too strong even on lowest setting and it makes my tonsils bleed a bit. I can only handle it for a few seconds then I start gagging.
Theres all kinds of tricks to get them out. But they are way back in there and once they surface on the outside to where you can see white patches.... look out cause theres alot of disgusting stuff thats in there that will start coming out. Some people use the long qtips or a toothbrush and press around back there. Overall, brushing and flossing after meals, and excellent oral hygiene is a must if you suffer from them and supposedly cut out Dairy . Water pik works but just get one that doesnt have such a powerful stream.- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... Birk
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This is a reply to # 2,019,267Dear God, StefB! I am sooooooo sorry to hear about the dairy reaction, although finding out something that is ailing and plaguing you is such a relief - congratulations on that!
I am so glad I found this site, but this comes a year after I discovered I am toxically allergic to gluten - like I can hardly be within 5 feet of someone eating it without having a multitude of reactions. I had to give up my case or two of beer a week, my cheeseburgers, my french fries (cuz most are fried in oil with chix nuggets and all breaded crap), a fried chicken craving that only developed after I knew I'd probably never be able to have THAT again, not to mention the zillion other things I consumed on a daily basis - oh and expensive cosmetics and hair stuff - all gone.
I now eat a healthier diet than if I were a professional triathlete & by god if I have to give up cheese I might have to go "into the wild" and just eat dirt because life will have become totally unbearable. I do know that the cheese industry has given us lactase so if you're gastrically intolerant, you can pop a pill and voila, eat cheese. I am assuming your reactions are something else?
Let me know how the elimination of dairy thing goes, because I guess in the interest of feeling good for the first time in my life and not like I have a combination of cancer, aids, dimentia, bi polar disorder, adhd and every other malady on earth, I will just have to surrender & leave the love of my life as well - CHEESE.
I am 99% sure that I have parasites, too, and so fighting these guys is going to be enough of a job that I dont want any more drama after this - I AM NOT above eating twigs and branches if it stops the pain and allows me health and wellness.
All the best to you & good luck!- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... 1Michael85
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This is a reply to # 2,019,512haha your post made me laugh! I love your wording.
I have also become gluten intolerant.
It has to do with the Genetically-Modified-Organisms foods and also the beer.
Somehow the beer effected me. Gave me a leaky gut or something.
Not sure. But I am in the same boat as you.
The things that made us happy and we took for granted,
cannot be enjoyed anymore. Because we put ourselves here.- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... stefb
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This is a reply to # 2,020,533when I stopped drinking alcohol 12 years ago as of yesterday, thats when I started to slowly have all my health problems come on. They didnt come on full force until like 5 years ago. My symptoms, major brain fog, eyelid swelling w/ mucos or goop coming out everyday (alot of it), digestion issues, Leaky gut,sinus, candida, bad skin, fatigue, anxiety, weird heatbeat and the list goes on and on. Wouldnt surprise me in the least bit if the beer/ alcohol did damage to my gut/ liver, ...set the stage.
I've been gluten free since Nov 1, 2012 ... felt soso since stopping that. BUT since stopping dairy 15 days ago i have not had one bad day. I feel awesome. I have not gone more than 2 days straight without feeling horrible for 5 years!!!! Oh and since Nov 1st I've lost 12 pounds since being gluten free/ dairy free (dec 12)-
I feel stronger too not only physically but mentally. So much energy I dont know what to do with. Its really a bizarre feeling almost surreal.... I forgot what it feels like to feel good.- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... Birk
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This is a reply to # 2,020,544YaY STEF!!!!! I AM SOOOOOOO HAPPY FOR YOU!!!! The Gluten thing is BY FAR going to be the hardest thing to stay away from, just because it is lurking in every corner of our cosmetic case, our bathroom, our pets' foods, and the list goes on! Depending on your level of sensitivity (I hope it's nothing like mine!), the situation can vary greatly. It takes about two whole weeks to get the Gluten out of your system, and you are in the prime-time of the greatest part of going gluten free. When I stopped in Aug 2011, the general consensus in the celiac community was that it took a year for everything to regulate and your body to start being the "normal" it was meant to be. It is NOT going to be an easy road, but I am so proud of you and excited you were able to make this discovery and know that you are completely on the right track.
You are 100% correct that many celiacs/gluten intolerants are also dairy intolerant. I have had it in the back of my mind for a year and a half, and I know I have to do it, but I'm seriously so sad about it because bread is one thing, but CHEESE IS THE LOVE OF MY LIFE! The past year free of gluten (besides those pesky contamination issues - which ARE A PURE HELL!) has been wonderful, but there have been little ups and downs where I knew there was something else I was missing. I wanted to blame it on my environment, mould, anything but my dearest love - CHEESE! My cheese box is full right now, but I have decided to eat half of the Brie, Gueyerre, Fontina, Monterrey Jack, Sharp Cheddar, and then take the other halves and put them in a shoe box and have a funeral in the back yard before new years. Thank you so much for all of your insight and I am dying to feel like I have energy enough to walk up the stairs to my bedroom or even feed my poor dogs, let alone play with them! I am so lucky I havent had kids yet and drug them through this hell I have been going through!
Please keep us all updated on your wellness and I know it will continue to amaze you how well you feel!
When you read the celiac.com forum, you will find there are two kind of reactions to getting off gluten/beer/fatty foods, etc.:
1) The weight literally falls off, and people feel the way you're feeling now....or
2) The body has been so traumatized by the gluten that it almost has the effect of an anorexic person who eats a regular meal for the first time in forever - The body goes into shock and literally doesnt know how to process the food/nutrients because it's never been able to do it properly. It's got to re-learn everything about digestion and nutrition and how to handle it.
You would think we would all turn into supermodels, but unfortunately I used to be a model, and I got what they call the "5 month pregnant belly" reaction. I was probably riddled with candidaisis anyway, so I'd gained some weight but it was properly distributed. When I got off the gluten, I swear it was like a real pregnant looking belly - TOTALLY not my body type! I would sit on the forums and just read and cry and read all the crying and cry some more. Such sadness in these situations, but the GREAT THING IS IT WILL EVENTUALLY GET BETTER! :) They now say it can take up to 3 years for the body to regulate, but at 1.5 years I am now starting to get my normal shape back - FINALLY! I am so excited to say I think you are going to be the supermodel type, Steph, so get ready for some well-deserved retail therapy soon!
Thank you for reinforcing the cheese thing. I know I would have probably gone a whole other year feeling great but feeling like Hell as well, and just be completely in denial. It's like if I dont feel like I have gastro symptoms, then how could it be cheese? Well, I guess it's like gluten in that some people had the gastro symptoms, some did not. I didnt so that's why it's taken me 20 years to get to this point. We are lucky because many people dont find out until they are 60 and have been abused, poked, prodded, and even dissected (multiple surgeries and organs unnecessarily removed!) by MDs before they find out gluten is the culprit.
I honestly suggest any of you reading this, think about cutting out gluten for just two weeks and see what happens. You might find what you think is candida or parasites or whatever is really just government brainwashing and food manipulation in the form of our trusty food pyramid - "EAT LOTS OF BREAD"! More like "EAT LOTS OF DEAD"! Eventually I'll find some really neat articles (they are really well hidden) about "Bread Madness" from the mid 20th century and I will post them here. I have read stories about people even getting labotomies because their reactions to gluten made them seem and feel COMPLETELY INSANE! While lucky I didn't have the gastro symptoms - I was WELL-STOCKED in the INSANE SYMPTOM department. Off the Bread, no more madness.
Good luck to all and HEALTH & WELLNESS IN 2013! XXX
- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... Birk
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- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... Birk
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This is a reply to # 2,020,533Hey Michael,
Sooo glad I could give you a little laugh in the midst of all of this suffering. I try to make light of things because laughing at myself has always made even the worst situations feel a lot "lighter" at times. I am terribly sorry you are going through these pains, but Like "StefB" and I, you are sooooo lucky to find out what is possibly causing these issues for you. I remember being so sick and thinking I was dying of black mould or aids or cancer and I would tell myself, "God! I wish I knew what it was! AIDS? Okay, well that seems impossible and would totally suck, but at least I would know what the hell is wrong with me and then I could take the proper steps to deal with it. Cancer? Same thing - do the cancer steps, etc." The ABSOLUTE WORST thing on earth is what many people on this site are suffering with - the NOT KNOWING - It is the MOST HORRIFYING THING!
Okay, now saying all of this, dont think I literally cried EVERY SINGLE day for at least the first 6 months of going gluten free. Not just because all I could think of is all the foods I could never have again (that sucked a bit, though, to be honest, lol), but one of the hardest things is the social aspect of the disease. I am now at the point where I cannot let one living creature touch my food or I get sick. I, too, used to drink a case or two of Heineken light a week (Hell yeah!) and I remember feeling like "ugggg" but it tasted soooooo good, but I felt ugggg so I drank another, then another, then I'd have had like 12, lol! I'm part indian, so we can throw down some firewater, but it's funny because I actually had hangovers with beer that I couldnt even recognize as hangovers because I was sick in so many other ways. NOW HERE IS THE THING ABOUT BEER.......1 Beer is like drinking a triple shot of gluten! Gluten is made of WHEAT, BARLEY, AND RYE, which I'm pretty sure most beers contain as a trifecta!
I hope we both have not permanently ruined ourselves with all the beer, but there have been great advancements in vitamins for celiacs, and although I've still not formally gotten tested or let the Crazies (aka Medical Doctors) put a scope up my booty, I am now 99% sure I must be a celiac, so my villi in my intestines are most likely damaged. I have been terrible at taking vitamins but I bought some from celiac.com and honestly, when I take them, I REALLY do feel better. There are some daily ones that are "comprehensive cleanse" type things, but specific for celiacs/gluten intolerants who need a few extra things you wont get in any other vitamins. It's totally worth a try and if you are interested, ask me and I'll get you the actual info on the ones I have. I know on their site there are many, and part of my 2013 resolution is to stay on top of those suppliments.
I hope this helped, and honestly, my residual problems are totally probably due to cheese, but I want to be healthy, not living the life of someone who has Lupus when all I have to do is stop being a Cheese Hog!
All the best and feel free to ask anything you like - I am an open book when it comes to this because I know there are too many people suffering & since I flunked out of pre-med, it's the least I can do to contribute!
PS - there are gluten free beers. I tasted Redbridge and it made me all sick feeling and gassy. No Bueno - the upside is MOST alcohols are gluten free because the molecules of gluten are too big to "fit" through multiple distillation processes. I still have a reaction to my favorite expensive single malt scotches though, which are supposedly gluten free. Once you get "really clean" of gluten, you will INSTANTLY know if you have a reaction to something - for me it begins the minute the food hits my mouth and back of throat. Feels like I'm eating razor blades, and oh then the fun begins......... ;) Just pay attention to your body, it will tell you if you are putting something in there it doesnt like.
PSS - Another thing I must mention again is that 60% of everything that touches your skin is absorbed into the bloodstream. I bartended for like 10 years. Needless to say, if you are a bartender, you need to find another job. Also check your face washes, soaps and Shampoos - they can be creating Body Odor , rashes, breakouts, all sorts of things that can mimic parasites or any other long list of symptoms you may be suffering from. If you really want to see/read some horrific stuff gluten does - google "dermatitis herpetiformis".....
Good luck to all! xxx- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... #65058
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This is a reply to # 2,020,579Birk, have you or Stefb had these odor problems (bad breath and/or Body Odor ) as part of your symptoms. From looking at your history, I can't tell that you've included this in your discussion.
I've tested for Celiac and lactose. All have come up negative. Doctors are so discouraging.- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... stefb
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This is a reply to # 2,020,715I have not had the Body Odor but have had the bad breath from the tonsil plugs. Another thing that has gone away since i stopped dairy. I've also, as of yesterday, started oil pulling with coconut oil. I've read alot about how beneficial it is for killing bacterias, fungus in the mouth and theres many other benefits from doing it. Have you ever considered the bad breath may be those tonsil stones? Its a very distinct putrid smell. Feels like something is caught in your throat when they start forcing their way out. My problem with the dairy is not the lactose its the casein protein. And yes, Doctors are totally irritating. Have you done any sort of cleansing?
- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... Birk
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This is a reply to # 2,020,715I always feel like I have this thing in the back of my throat. No one really has mentioned the breath thing, but I really think I have it because I always feel like I have a furry white tongue. Honestly I've probably had candida chronically in the mouth because I was on Antibiotics FOR SEVEN WHOLE YEARS for my sinus problems before my parents would let me go to a real ENT (then had "emergency surgery like 12 hours later, etc. etc.).
As far as the Body Odor , I have been diagnosed with hyperhydrosis - excessive sweating, and when I say that I mean like a big silverback gorilla sweating when I'm not even doing anything! Who knows, honestly all of these symptoms could be from years and years of being put on BS drugs, then more side effect symptoms, then more drugs, and on and on. I really feel like I smell terrible right now because I am taking all of these natural remedies - Coconut oil, Diatomaceous earth, Colloidal Silver , etc., and as my brother says, maybe the smells are some "die off" things happening. Maybe it's from eating too much cheese - DAMN - Divorcing Cheese in almost 24 hours exactly! StefB said she's felt amazing since stopping cheese.
I wouldnt trust tests, really if I were you - the doctors have been discouraging to me for 20 years - even convincing me I was mentally ill and that's all. Well, that's not all at all! I am fine but just like everyone else out there - had food sensitivities that I was unaware of them. I read somewhere that you can experience a food sensitivity up to like 3 days after you ate something! Like you eat asparagus or something and then you have the weirdest migraine 3 days later - HOW THE HELL ARE U SUPPOSED TO KNOW that dang migraine came from a food you ate 3 days ago! You can have a major food sensitivity and it wont even show up on an "allergy test". Poke around online googling food sensitivity as opposed to allergy and you will unearth a world of conspiracy! Check out the forums on celiac.com because there are a lot of sensitive people on there too with a multitude of health problems and I bet you might find some people with common symptoms and issues with yours.
Hope this helps and hope you feel better soon! I know I've read amazing recipes for body oder stuff - like soaks you can do and everything, but I wanted to go out last night and after a shower I felt like I smelled like the weirdest smell ever, so I jumped in the tub and mixed a bit of hydrogen peroxide in my soap and it really helped. I'm sure baking soda will too, and oh dont even get me started on how much i love borax! I've been wanting to write a household hints book on borax alone for like 6 years. May be about time for that - especially since there are some beauty/cosmetic uses for it that have been surpressed for what, a hundred years~! Coconut oil in the bath supposedly does wonders as well and is wonderfully moisturizing!
I also know a girl who likes to make her own cosmetics and she makes a deodorant paste out of coconut oil, little baking soda, and a few drops of lavender. I'm going to try that soon, too, because I know that stupid grocery store stuff all causes breast cancer.
I need to solve the sweating issue, and that's my next task after detoxing parasites, bowel, kidney, liver. I have done botox but it's sooooooo expensive! Stops the sweating but I have no idea what else it could be doing to me, so I'm going to try something natural - maybe even Diatomaceous earth, lol!
all the best
birk
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- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... 1Michael85
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- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... Birk
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- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... stefb
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- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... certifiedhealthnut
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This is a reply to # 2,018,510Possibly going all vegetarian and Black-Walnut husk would get rid of them. Flukes like protein meals, such as red meat, fish, seafood, eggs, milk products. According to HC, cleanse must be continued for a very long time because buried eggs will turn into flukes. I think about a year or something. And once in a while maintenance is needed because those little bastards are everywhere, and it is possible to get them back again.
- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... whkim2010
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- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... zoho
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This is a reply to # 2,018,494Report with a formal complaint the lab who did the parasite examination of your stool specimen and failed to find ova or mature flukes to your state's Department of Health. Be sure to include ample documentaion of your contraindicating evidence that you really do have flukes and/or the eggs that the lab failed to find or identify. When the DOH investigates, it's not very pretty - I've experienced it! They send experts in the field of laboratory Science to examine every process, procedure and record in the lab. The original stained slides, which are required to be archived by the lab, will be examined by independent parasitologists. If you're lucky, you can supoena the state's investigation to use in your malpractice suit against the lab. Good luck!
- After 20 years of living with this a... Sputnik72
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This is a reply to # 2,018,545First of all, I would like to say that after 20 years of living with this awefull condition, I've explored every possiblity as to where the underlying cause of halitosis could possibly come from. Exploring the possibility that it could be from oral related conditions such as tonsil stones, bacterial overgrowth on the back of the tongue, impacted wisdom tooth, etc was done long ago.
At about the time my bad breath started, I started to develop serious gastro-intestinal problems. Duodenal ulcers, hiatal hernia, acid reflux, chronic gastritis, diarrhea for a while, then constipation, and the lists goes on.
No gastro-enterologist or any other doctor EVER even suggested that I check for parasites. Not in 20 years! When I started the anti- parasite treatment, all my trouble and discomforts disapeared overnight, not just bad breath.
Now, just so you understand where I'm coming from here, imagine waking up everyday like you usually do with morning breath, but after you brush, it does not go away. In fact as the day goes by, it gets worse, exponentially worse. It gets to the point where whenever you open your mouth, the only response you get from others is complete disgust and utter contempt. Aside from bad breath, imagine developing very strong Body Odor s as well. Now imagine living like this for over 20 years.
I have no life, and have had none for a long time. I won't even tell you my experiences with MDs and the side effects of the meds they prescribed that have had little to no effect. I'm not going to tell you either the serious psychological conditions I developed over the years.
I have lost all faith in your DH and their chronies. Conventional medicine is, in my view, designed to never cure anything, just to keep you coming for more of the same useless treatments.
I came across Hulda Clark 's treatment out of desperation, and it is working. Now my question is: How could these critters cause this affliction. I thought of the liver because 1/ I saw one floating in my toilet that looked like a liver fluke. 2/ I read that fecal smell in breath could be caused from a disfunctioning liver 3/ Body Odor could also result in the disfunciton of the liver.
I have no definitive answers and I am trying to explore any possibility as no doctor/specialist has ever been able to give me one.
Thank you
- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... Birk
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This is a reply to # 2,018,710My heart goes out to you. Please let me know if you find anything else out and I will keep you in mind if I do. I am going to order the sinupulse advanced sinus irrigation system on sale on amazon for $80 and see if it works. I have been alone and isolated for a long time because of my other health problems and this is a huge one I must tackle if I want to feel comfortable in public again. I wish you all the best. I'm sure you have tried a tongue scrubber, and if your problem is internal, it may not help, but it has given me a bit of relief.
Also, my brother who suffers from a whole spectrum of the maladies discussed on this site has started using a sort of concoction in the morning thats supposed to help with candida overgrowth. It's a glass of real lemon juice with a table spoon of baking soda. A dermatologist, who left medicine to do whole healing told us about it.
Hope you feel better soon!
merry xmas - Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... silvernight
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This is a reply to # 2,018,710Aren't those liver flukes really small like microscopic size?? unless you have super vision like super man do not think you are able to see it with naked eyes....
- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... Birk
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This is a reply to # 2,019,981Sputnik please post updates on the progress your making. At least right now your having some relief.
My situation is EXACTLY the same as yours. I've tried everything, searched every avenue like you with no results.
This past summer I passed what look like long white worms, twice these white ball things about the size of garlic. I went and got tested for parasites and it came back negative. It started happening again, and startled me so bad I went to hospital emergency, and the doctor wouldnt even test me because he said parasites only happen in foreign places, not in this part of the world. I live in NY.
I argued with him asking what on earth am I passing in my stools then!!?? And why do I have constant loud stomach gurgles along with other stomach problems and horrible bad breath that can be smelled 10 feet away if I just my mouth (for now 8 years).
He said it might be acid reflux, or constipation and prescribed miralax with colace. And told me to also take fiber pills. Of course none of that worked. All it did was give me horrible diarrhea for days. It's been a miserable life to say the least.- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... Birk
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This is a reply to # 2,020,277To anyonymous,
I really hate to say this, but you are almost quoting textbook symptoms for gluten intolerance/celiac disease.
It will probably be the hardest road one can travel, but you might want to consider it.
Also, everyone, please note, that like many of these parasite situations where only 20% of people who have parasites actually test positive, there is a similar problem in the gluten sensitivity testing world. I Know a lot has happened since I was doing my research a year and a half ago as far as testing is concerned, but the most TRIED AND TRUE METHOD IS what they call "clinical trial" - lol - dont think I mean doctors - I mean YOU DO YOUR OWN "TRIAL" and get completely clear of gluten for AT LEAST TWO WEEKS and see what happens. The first 3 days will be the worst and the reaction you will have is likened to that of coming off heroin or methamphetamine or something. It is sooo highly addictive, it will drive you crazy craving it, but after 3 days, miracles will begin to happen - just ask "StefB".
Gluten allergies/celiac is an autoimmune disorder, so what happens is your body is using all of it's immune "soldiers" to attack the gluten, and leaving the rest of your body to it's own devices with no defense system. Just think of "war strategy" and imagine what you're doing to your body - it's at war with itself, so naturally every other problem that arises will be multiplied and exacerbated by this situation.
I hope you feel better soon and even if you do go for testing and it comes up negative, that does not mean you are in the clear. The GREAT Conspiracy is that 74% that is SEVENTY FOUR PERCENT OF HUMANS HAVE SOME FORM OF ALLERGY TO GLUTEN!
Good luck!
Birk
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- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... zoho
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This is a reply to # 2,019,376Liver flukes have a number of forms in their quite complex life cycle and most of the forms are are microscopic. A mature adult liver fluke can be as large as 4 inches long and is most often found imbedded in the liver. Adults large enough to see are very rarely seen in the colon so it would be very unusual to see one in your feces.
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This is a reply to # 2,018,710hey sputnik, i really enjoyed your comments and positivity. i definately identify and was cracking up about what you said about waking up and brushing and it getting worse, exponentially worse through out the day! i know exactly what you were talking about.
i also can see the connections with liver issues as i had got advice from luella may from ask tony isaacs feat. luella on this site and she recommended a liver cleanse (i posted this earlier in 'to share some news') and i speculated there must be some connection. i only tried the 1st round and there has definately been relief, but it's recommend to be done twice and i also want to look into parasites as well to make sure this stuff is obliterated!
thanks for the intelligent insight and confirmation! and hope you also check out miss luella, they also have a web-site the best years in life, tybil you can research and they've also mentioned Hulda Clark s program, i've been hearing good things about it.- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... Birk
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This is a reply to # 2,021,177Yay neonbunny, definitely do the parasite cleanse and let us know how it goes. I know I read somewhere the order in which the cleanses are supposed to go, but i forgot already. I think it was parasite first, then bowel to get all the dead parasites and gunk out, then kidney or liver next. I started parasite a few days ago and I am grumpy and achy as hell, but I cant tell if it's mainly because I divorced cheese for new years and I'm having insane crack-like dairy withdrawls or what. Good luck and keep us posted. I just hope I'm doing this right. I bought some Kroeger foods combo pill with all the cloves and Wormwood in it, and then some walnut hull tincture to go with it, as well as L-ornithine. I bought something else too, she listed, but it wasnt required right away and damn amazon has screwed me and it's not here yet. Started cleanse like 3 days ago. It's been hard. I am sure I'm on the right track though, because it looks like I have demodex on my face and boy they are REALLY not happy - I look like a pizza face and it hurts like hell - like when my immune system was in the crapper from eating gluten (not knowing i practically need an epi pen for the damn stuff!). I hope I dont need some dramatic plastic surgery face transplant after all this - yikes!
- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... neonbunny
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This is a reply to # 2,022,016yes its def hard, but after awhile you won't even crave that kind of food like that esp when there's so many other good options out there and it's not even worth it in the first place. it takes time, i used to eat like a box of little debbies in one evening and now i rarely do (and not a whole box) because there's a better alternative lurking around the corner. i just got to the point if there's a better choice i can make why not?
yea it sounds like your'e on the right track, seems like you ran across some of the same stuff i did. let me know how the l-ornithine works out for sleep. i'll def keep you posted on the parasite cleanse, i did the 2nd liver detox feeling really good so now this other target to focus on!- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... ShitFaced
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This is a reply to # 2,022,958Hi all. I have the fecal breath, IBS, gerd, BO symtoms. Excuse me for being graphic, but my rectal area started itching badly about a year ago. It's ok during the day, but sometimes, it wakes me up at night. Does it seem like I have parasites in my system? I'm so worried after reading this thread, as if my problems weren't bad enough already... thanks
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- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... Grateful girl
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This is a reply to # 2,018,442Sounds like you do have liver flukes as I do. I suspect I got then from eating raw fish. If you don't change your diet, the parasites will keep coming back. They are not easy to get rid of. Look for Jordan Rubin on YouTube. He has an amazing personal story of survival.
His diet, called The Makers Diet is the best! I plan to follow it for life. Best of luck. Blessings.
- Re: Possible liver flukes and bad br... zoho
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