I agree with these steps. Except for the smoking part. Smoking is not good for health. Also, leave it alone works great but a little lip balm or petroleum jelly would be good for daily lip support.   [End]
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Dear Perfect Cyph3r, Is applying lecithin to your exfoliative cheilitis on you lips still working to stop the peeling from happening? What brand and type of lecithin are you using, soybean or sunflower? If not, are you using anything else that is working? I have had exfoliative cheilitis for thirty one years so please contact me if you read this. I would appreciate it very much. Randy randyrbnj@gmail.com   [End]
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I guess sesame oil may be the best choice for oil pulling.   [End]
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Is there a photo you see online that looks similar to what you had? My fordyce spots were tiny and flat or didn’t look like herpes.   [End]
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I had three white spots on my lips for the past four years. They looked like herpes and I had to wear lipstick to cover them every time to hide them. I’ve looked all over the internet for cures and tried them all: vicks, conditioners, peels, oils etc. Fed up I was trying to pop them like a post I read. I took a pin removed the top layer of skin and squeezed and squeezed hoping some stuff would come out. Nothing did except blood. Just on a lark I took c-herb that I bought to remove my moles, flesh colored raised spots and hemangiomas. I used a toothpick and put on a small amount on ...
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I think what cured patients’ EC in the past was tricyclic antidepressants, which Prozac is not. The drugs prescribed today do not have as many side effects as tricyclic antidepressants or that’s why they’re prescribed. I think because tricyclic antidepressants have so many side effects, they interfere with other body processes. I don’t really know if there’s a difference between antidepressants and antianxiety drugs, but the people with EC were cured while using tricyclic antidepressants.   [End]
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I’ve taken the generic form of Prozac for a few years - Fluoxetine. Only 25mg, but I’ve never noticed any changes. Maybe I need a higher dosage, but I’ve actually stopped taking it a few months ago.   [End]
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I guess the question to pose on this forum is how many people here have tried Prozac or Affexor. I haven’t tried it, but I think it takes at least a month for results to go into effect.   [End]
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hello SlightlyMadMax :) Thank you so much for those kind words - you are a wonderful and sensitive person. I think that for me it has to do with a lot of stress as well - stress usually builds up gradually making the body more tense. people (well, me, and i believe that i am not unique in this aspect) do not realize how intense their body is in regard to what it should be. the relaxation mode for people who are dealing with chronic stress isn’t as half relaxed as people who are not dealing with it. In the state of stress the body is producing stress hormones such as Andrenaline ...
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Hello Lipman, Thank you for your ideas and the wonderful and polite way you are writing here. God knows we need people like you here because pretty much every member here is struggling through mental issues because of EC. That being said, you have made good points about posture. I have by no means a good posture, however, I am fairly active, much more than many of the student athletes at my college. However, that has made little impact on my EC. But of course, that doesn’t mean that proper posture which does open up the channel of energy throughout the body won’t help out oth ...
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Hey there longterm :) I do not believe clenched jaws would worsen your EC because i dont think that lips touching each other have anything to do with this problem. Also, there is no way on earth you can prevent your lips from touching food, toungh, or each other unless you are in a coma, breathing through your nose and being fed by IV - and even then, your lips will be touching each other or the air. If you have a Gluten intollorance my advice would be to keep staying away from it. However, a good posture isn’t allways easy to acheive, and sometimes people think they have good pos ...
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You mentioned having a clenched jaw in the past, then a relaxed jaw now. Do you think pressure from clenched jaw puts pressure on lips by pressing them together? I still had EC lips when I tried daily posture exercises by a posture expert. I admit that I’m not very active or don’t exercise to use up energy. However, I know of some former lip biters on here who are very active. But I have celiac disease which is known to cause peeling lips in some cases having nothing to do with posture...unless the disease itself makes your muscles weak. I didn’t notice a diffrence when I tried posture ...
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hello there Rala51829 :) good posture, as well as less strain and stress in the overall aspect, is very important for every system of your body. our body is an incredible ”machine” and the wonderful thing about this ”machine” is that every organ has an impact on a different organ that guess what - has an impact on a nother organ and so on. for example, if your digestive system is not working smoothly, it effects the way your body clears itself of toxins, and also the way your body picks up nutrions for keeping itself nurished. when your body is not clearing toxins properly - it cr ...
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Hello hopeforcure2016 :) Thanks for your reply. this could be the case for some EC patients, though it’s unlikely to be the main problem. i wonder how you came to the conclusion that this has to do with infection. infections are usually acute and has an onset and than they goes away, and if they do return - they do not usually return to the exact same spot, and if they do - the tissue is gonna get mouch worsely damaged - which is not the case in EC (not talking about Actinic Cheilitis). with EC the tissue becomes damaged at first, but in the chronic phase it sort of cycles in t ...
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it has nothing to do with stress, its all about the damage, hidden infection and lack of patience to keep the scab to take its time and fall all that due to the location of the lip   [End]
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Could it not just be stress related and not posture? Maybe good posture means less strain and stress.   [End]
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Hello every1, first of all, apologies for any language mistakes - English isn’t my first language ;) I’ve been a sufferrer of EC for about 6 years so far (hopefully ain’t gonna be a 7th year ;)), to be honest, I haven’t been on this forum for about two years now since i have tried all sorts of treatments suggested here and haven’t really found my cure (that been said - I do have so much appreciation for all of you awsome people sharing your experiences and giving me and many people hope for a better future - LOVE you guys). I feel like recently i came to understand what was ca ...
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It’s the fatty acids in the oil that is antifungal. It’s just something to add. This will not cure us of Candida, I wish.   [End]
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thanku for this i will try with sesame seeds.   [End]
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Putting this here for those interested in adding it to their diet:   [End]
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”something wrong is happening in our body (i really don’t know what)” You don’t even know how right you are! You are 100% right. Something wrong is happening in our body! Something wrong is happening on the scale of whole planet! What is happening is so complex that most people and even most doctors have absolutely no slightest clue. To really get some understanding of what is going on, you will have to educate yourself beyond what your doctors knows. Yes, it is possible! Watch all of the videos on this page: http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=2340155 ...
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My lip peeling is my main concern, if I just had to worry about fordyce spots I would be very happy. The reason I asked is to see where they are located and how bad they are?   [End]
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are you doing it ? because personally i don’t think fordyce spots can be cured by applying something on the lips. for me the solution is from inside, they show up because something wrong is happening in our body (i really don’t know what). but i think too that fordyce spots can’t be cured (actually i deeply think they can, but no one found how at the moment and everything that we can read about people that cured them is fake. i have never read anyone that said something like :” ok i cured my spots, this is the picture before/after, i did that and that and they are gone.” i ...
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Yes I know what they look like I have a small amount of them on my upper lip. Long term application with boric acid or apple cider vinegar I’ve heard is good for fordyce spots. You apply it twice per day with a sterile swab. It is trial and error.   [End]
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i can try to take a picture, but not sure if the quality will be enough. you don’t know what fordyce spots looks like ? it’s like small little white dots on the upper lip, doctor says that it’s normal and lots of people have it but i don’t think so, no one know what is it and i don’t think that many people have that thing, i’ve never seen it on anyone except on internet. it is not something normal, it was not on my lip before, i have got normal lip for 25 years, so when doctors tell me it’s normal because they don’t know what to do to help me, it makes me angry. not many people ha ...
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Can you post photos please ?   [End]
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Hello !! i have fordyce spots for 5 years now, i started to have them after taking an antidepressant called DEROXAT, it made my lips very dry, i used a lip balm and i saw those spots appearing on my lips, don’t know if it’s from the pills or the lip balm... AND i have a BIG question for this forum, is there anyone who got rid (for real) of those fordyce spots ?? i mean, don’t say any crappy cream or else, nothing works, if there is a solution, it’s from inside our body maybe changing something about our diet, taking foods supplements or i don’t know... but really nothing e ...
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Available ayur-herbal lip peeling medicine in online Exfoliative cheilitis Cured Healing online...... cured-healing-fast.fwscart./index.aspx?   [End]
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The image posted by him is also not his. I checked his fb profile and I can say for sure that it is not his lips. If he had EC he would have had a little empathy towards fellow sufferers .If I get cured,I will post my cure here because I know how is it like to have EC and if my post helps even 1 person,I will be happy.Also there are so many cure posts here on curezone and if EC was so easy to beat, everyone would be cured by now. He talks as if his method will cure everyone. He is just trying to take advantage of our helplessness and make money out of our misery. I request the admin ...
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Oh please...youre asking money just for a name of a capsule? You can’t even mention the name on here? Ec is a serious problem and people here are desperately looking for a cure and then there’s low lives like you who prey on these innocent people who will do absolutely anything to get rid of this condition. Taking advantage of innocent people’s suffering is f***ing sick. If you were sincere you wouldn’t be asking us to pay you before you tell us your method. You know what man, you either tell us your ”method” on this forum or you can just f*** outta here.   [End]
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so what is the gel capsule your talking about why dont you say the name here   [End]
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lmao knew it   [End]
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with in 2nd day u can change ur lip going to normal... easilyy... i fighting last 25 yrs with ec..lastly i founded...my *method* 25yrs long treatment is very costly.. thats way i dont like nw freely..giving my formula commercially i will give my method not interest..just leave it..thanks because i spend .. toomuch with 25yrs ec fighting..last got..healing method.   [End]
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or u can adopt best method from curzone... lots of Free...method available in curezone..follow.....try...   [End]
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kkkkk....last 25yrs i consult above 50 doctors..nobody..giving free service ..testing..medicine...i paid everything..... u can consult best doctor anywhere in the world..i hav no problmmmm.... iam not a doctor u can.. consult best dermatoligist check lip biopsy follow prescribed medicine. thanks gud luck.   [End]
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I talked to the person on whatsapp and he is surely a fraud. He demanded 180£ for his method. Hell he even sent me a fake screenshot of someone else’s whatapp conversation who claimed to be cured by his method. He says that he spent 40lakh rupees(16500$) on doctors in the past 20-25 years. I request admin to block his id and delete this post .   [End]
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sounds like a scam, generic 25 years, wont say the treatment on here, no other posts, posts pic of lips that blatently arnt his, broken english even though his name is george. ill pass lol   [End]
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just intake daily two times one gel capsule & apply gel times a day.... lip redness going out & turn to normal pink lip from second day   [End]
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whatsapp (removed by admin)   [End]
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You can post it here, but please no magic creams.   [End]
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Last 25 yrs iam suffering lip peeling chelitis.. white..thick..yellowish lip peel every day.. no chance..no treatment results anywhere... no social contaxt no confidence. consults thousand..tablet..thicking suicide..octors& thousand creams.oils.antibi otics. no results alopathy.ayurvedic.homeop athy...everyth ing waste finally i cured.healed after 25 years my peeling chelitis lip. Ifound my cured..healed lip last.... who want my ma gic cured healing..started..from second day tratment ...contact me stop peeling..tension ..enjoy ..life.   [End]
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You can find my post here.   [End]
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And just to be clear, no, the abreva hasn’t helped me at all.   [End]
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Well, I know it has been quite some time since my last post, but I did say I was going to post an update about my results ( I don’t want to be that guy who just dissapears). So the creame I been using is called abreva, a cold sore cream. Yeah, I know, but supposedly someone from Australia claimed he was cured with it - claimed he had the classic fordyce spots all over his lips, which dissapeared in a very short period of time. To be honest, I wasn’t expecting much, but it’s better than twiddling my thumbs doing nothing. And you just never really know what may work. I figured it would be be ...
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I tried a homemade salt water solution that I made with distilled water and rock salt and it set me back. I overused it and the little bit of normal skin that covers the top half of my top lip peeled off. I thought I was going to have this shit over all of my lips. Thankfully, that skin, which is more tender than it used to be, doesn’t peel like the rest. I, like you, felt that my lips looked better after two trips to the ocean and that’s where I got the idea from. I won’t discourage you from trying it, but I would exercise caution. Good luck.   [End]
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I go on a week long beach vacation every year and between the sun and salt water my lips do get better but then return to normal after I return. I so think it’s the salt in the ocean and the vitamin d from the sun.   [End]
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It is abnormal for fordyce spots to be on the lips or where there is no hair. So, dermatologist are wrong when they say fordyce spots on lips are normal. Complications arise because it is abnormal.   [End]
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Hi new here, but I been aware of this forum since 2006 I believe, which was the time my lips started peeling. Anyway, long story short: I learned to live with it to the point that it doesn’t bother me much anymore and don’t even think about it . Fordyce spots developed on my top bottom lip early on where the lip peels. It was not noticeable since it was hidden. Fast forward almost a decade later, and recently started getting the spots on the corners and top open area of my top lip,. It spread quite fast. This is pretty much the sole reason I came back here after all these years and finally ...
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Cool. thanks, Longterm, I’ll give that a shot!   [End]
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Do you surf in another ocean besides the Atlantic ocean? I wonder if one location has a higher concentration of minerals than another or if one is more polluted.   [End]
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I surf all the time, I have lots of fordyce spots that have never gone away, so the ocean for me has had a neutral effect.   [End]
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I found this on the Internet... ”fordyce spots started disappearing. I’m pretty sure this is from the addition Magnesium Chloride I have been putting in the water.” ”fordyce spots... Foods containing the minerals calcium, phosphorus and magnesium, and vitamins A and B2 (which control the oiliness), C (antioxidant and anti-inflammatory) and B6 (which regulates hormone metabolism) promote the health and the quality of skin).” ”fordyce spots...Eat foods high in calcium, magnesium and flaxseed oil.” not the calcium- http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1721836 ***I would ...
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I think someone else might have written a post about his lips improving in ocean water whiel he was on vacation. I forgot what I wrote back then. In general, saline water has improved people’s EC, but not drastically improved it. It may not have as much salt in it as ocean water or it could be the other minerals in the ocean water which helps it further. ”Ocean water has a high salinity, which is the amount of salt dissolved in water. Besides the high concentration of sodium chloride, ocean water also contains chemicals, such as magnesium, sulfate, calcium, and potassium, as well as dis ...
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Hi everyone, I recently went on a trip to Long Island, and went swimming in the Atlantic... it wasn’t long before I noticed that my lips were tingling in a way that I wasn’t all that familiar with, and I was getting stinging sensation in the corners of my lips. I could only help but to feel good about that, because when I put something on my lips and it stings, at least I know there is some kind of reaction going on. Anyway, when I got back to the house we were staying at, I checked out my lips, and noticed that the fordyce spots on them had been practically wiped out, and some we ...
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Hi everyone first i want to say sorry for my bad english (i’m french) I’m 28 years and 3 years ago i was really in a bad moments in my life and my doctor gave me anti-depressive pills called DEROXAT, i took this shit for 2 days and i stopped it because i got too much side effect, one of my side effect was that my lips were very dry... And even when i stopped it my lips didn’t come back has before, it was still dry ! I applied lip balm and a day later i’ve noticed a white dot at the cupid part of my upper lips, i was wondering what is it but i didn’t care much, but then i saw another on ...
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I really hope they clear up because they look horrible. You can’t really see them unless you are up close but I don’t want people thinking that I have some STD. Especially because most of my friends know that I had some lip problem that kept me in the house for like a year.   [End]
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you will find healing there just a form of pimple... i have forcyde spots but i also occasionally get the white dots that can be gently pooped. they stick out of the skin and breakthrough were the forcyde spots are deeper in the tissue and can only really be seen when freshly peeled... the news ones should be cleared up after 3-4 days even if you just leave them.. i pressume   [End]
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Now I’m not totally sure that what developed on my lips are fordyce spots. They look similar to the other spots on my lips but not identical. And today I just popped them, and I’m really hoping that they will go away, they look horrible. The other spots on my lips would not be able to be popped.   [End]
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What is strange about the fordyce spots (at least the ones I had) is my skin was raw or missing lots of layers where I had them. However, if I applied something that burned (something like undiluted apple cider vinegar), my lips would not burn there. But, if I applied something that burned on newly raw areas where skin exfoliated on bottom lip, it burned. It’s like it was numb where fordyce spots were. I think some people may still feel pain where they have fordyce spots, but I never did.   [End]
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It seems to have the Fordyce spots I had before smaller, but I now have a few more on my lips that weren’t there before I started using the Nystatin. I am going to stop for the night. I actually hate how these Fordyce spots look, they almost look like some STD. Anyone on here had success getting rid of them? I might try the apple cider vinegar.   [End]
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Nystatin kills fungus. The following post also claims that vinegar kills fungus. The person’s fordyce spots went away after applying apple cider vinegar. (But, remember to dilute it in water). Hence, fordyce spots might come with infection...whether bacteria or fungus.   [End]
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Hey all, So after reading Crustylips’ post the other day, I found some old (but still good) Nystatin ointment that I was given by the first dermatologist I saw. I decided to use it the past 2 nights just for the hell of it. When I had full blown EC, I never had Fordyce spots but since my condition has cleared a bit, I have noticed some Fordyce spots on my lips. And after using Nystatin ointment on my lips the past few nights, some of the spots have turned red and have started burning. But the Fordyce spots as a whole seem to have gotten smaller. I looked it up briefly online and ...
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Those recommended treatments for Fordyce Spots never helped a signle person. Maybe for a month, or so but all comes back. Trust me! Non of these crazy ideas help. I tried all of them and nothing worked permamently. The vitamin A ointment I am using is not even close to Accutane’s retinoids. And it’s not helping that significally. It’s just the best thing I had on my lips. It’s easy to apply it and it does not irritate lips like vaseline. About the Colloidal Silver... yep, the super high dosage with LONG TERM of usage can really change your skin. More important - taking it while being ...
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It’s sad that the treatment you had for fordyce spots is the recommended treatment. Perhaps doctors didn’t follow up on the results. Liver problems could cause EC. I had slightly high liver enzymes. I also wasn’t absorbing vitamin A so it’s interesting how a vitamin A ointment is helping your lips. Is this a real form of vitamin A or not a synthetic form like Accutane? I wouldn’t take a high dosage of Colloidal Silver since I think it turned a man’s skin permanently blue.   [End]
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In 2012 I was taking accutane for about 8,5 months. First two weeks 40 mg, then 20 mg and 20 mg to the end. I have hair follicles inflammation now, terrible EC... and of course I still have Fordyce Spots. I always had chapped lips and I bit them as hard as I could. But in 2011 I got Fordyce Spots on all over my lips. Today, after two CO2 laser treatments, accutane, tretinoin liquid, photodynamic therapy I still have EC, still have fordyce spots. And I will tell you one thing: EACH OF THESE methods of fithing fordyce spots ARE a terrible IDEA to begin with!!! After CO2 laser tre ...
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Yes it might be one reason. They are mostly found at shaft of penis.   [End]
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Its better to consult it with dermatologist before applying any home made remedies.   [End]
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I think fordyce spots are caused by inflammation so the key may be to treat the inflammation.   [End]
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I guess there are a lot of u out there with fordyce spots on ur lips aswell as EC. I’ve got them for a few months now and are struggeling. Is there anything that can hide them? Some cure on the horizion? Making them not get bigger and more on the lips? They are just getting more and more. Don’t really know how I will be able to have a normal conversation with someone if they spread. Having ec and fordyce spots on top of that is really hard. Don’t know what to do anymore to be honest. I will just shut myself out of the real world more than I am atm if they spread.   [End]
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After posting this cure a couple of weeks ago. The question of what causes exfoliative cheilitis still remains unanswered. Well I came back to answer that question for my case. I experienced EC in a very similar way to most people in this forum. I ruled out bacterial and fungal with a variety of treatments in those categories. I have concluded that this was viral for me. The herpes simplex virus must have evolved into something different, something that doctors have never seen before. That is why doctors had no answers for why my lips kept peeling. There were no visible cold sores, so why ...
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Thank you. I came back for a bit to answer some questions. I ruled out bacterial/fungal a long time ago. What I was left with was, this must be viral then. I realized that my herpes simplex had been dormant for many years and then 3 years ago attacked my lips and I’m guessing never stopped. The milk put the virus back in dormant since there is no cure for herpes, all you can do is put it back to sleep. That is what milk did for me, put the virus back to sleep and I was able to heal my lips naturally.   [End]
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I forgot to mention I drank the milk for the L-Lysine that’s in it. I now believe what I had was viral (herpes simplex) that had been reactivated by attacking my wounded lips.   [End]
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That is correct. I believe once you’ve ruled out bacterial/fungal infection, what’s left? Viral? Possible if you have herpes which everyone has. So maybe EC is a reaction of herpes simplex being reactivated to continually attack wounded lips. L-Lysine in milk will place the virus back in hibernation so the lips can heal naturally.   [End]
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The reason I drank milk is because it contains L-Lysine. I should have mentioned that earlier. I made sure to get at least 2,000 mg L-Lysine daily through milk.   [End]
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I believe it was a combination of the steps I used. The marijuana took away the inflammation or at least I couldn’t feel the irritation of leaving them alone.   [End]
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At two weeks the raw areas on my lips healed and the peelings ceased. I continued my daily regimen.   [End]
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Mostly beer, sometimes mixed drinks. I smoke the marijuana, but have also made cannabutter. I medicated daily. The strain I used was high grade kush. So very potent indica.   [End]
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I will answer some questions with this new username. I didn’t realize how many replies I got until I checked back recently :)   [End]
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Click on the Foot Reflexology image to enlarge it. I’m not sure if the massage focus should be the colon/intestine/liver or what.   [End]
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Not all holistic treatments are BS. I’ll share an amazing story I just heard on the Dr. Oz show. He had a young patient who was dying of heart failure and needed a heart transplant. There was nothing more Dr. Oz could do, but he saw his feet and started massaging them. Guess what?! It started his heart again! Only holistic medicine could save him. It turned out massaging his feet stimulated his LYMPHATIC system. I know there have been theories on here that possibly we have a blocked lymphatic system. It was complicated to find the right massage therapist who knows lymphatic massage. I m ...
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No, soy milk doesn’t contain lactic acid...the magic ingredient. Aren’t there digestive supplements you can take so you can drink regular milk? Someone also suggested eating yogurt with milk since it aids in digestion. I heard goat’s milk is easier to digest than cow’s milk, but I never tried it.   [End]
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Do you know if Soy Milk will work? My brother is lactose intolerant so I have been drinking soy milk lately. Is it as good as regular milk?   [End]
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We don’t have angular cheleitis buddy, but thanks anyways!! Well maybe some here have a combo of angular/exfoliative cheleitis.. But not many I would guess   [End]
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Angular Cheilitis: A deficiency of B2, Riboflavin. Very common on a modern Western diet. Don’t be a vegetarian! Don’t drink any kind of soda, cola, fizzy pop drink. Take 1 x B2 and 1x multi-B tablet for a week, then once a week thereafter. Source: Experience, Merck’s manual, Upjohn’s vitamin manual, the vitamin bible. Newton’s pharmacy. Drinking alcohol uses up vitamin B real fast!   [End]
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I’m sorry if I bothered you. I encourage you to try the treatment if you think it will help you. I tried some homeopathy this summer and am in really bad shape now, so I’m not pointing the finger at anyone. I appreciate this website and the info I have got. However, I do feel that sometimes people come on here and, for whatever reason, are misleading/dishonest. I know we all are desperate to find a cure, but, as common sufferers of this horrible condition, we owe each other a responsibility to be straightforward. Good luck my friend.   [End]
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You might need to get your cortisol levels checked, you seem to be very distraught. Not saying I’m not as well but u might wanna look into it. What other health issues do u have?   [End]
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I haven’t had any vitamins checked but I’ve been taking b complex vitamin for 4 months now. I eat salmon everyday, eat wheat germ with folic acid and take whey protein. I eat 1 or 2 avocados everyday with cranberry juice and take probiotics and eat Greek yogurt. I don’t eat or drink dairy. I drink 1 or 2 cups of green tea with ginger and run for 20-30 mins and then lift. I have perioral dermatitis I believe from the cortisone cream and of course peeling lips for 9 months. Help!   [End]
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Crustylip, have you had your B vitamin levels checked? And Do you consume a decent amount of EFA’s?   [End]
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It depends on the brand of yogurt. Do you recommend any particular brands? And do you recommend unpasteurized kefir instead of pasteurized kefir? I have tried most the kefir flavors. I found that vanilla tastes the best.   [End]
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Just flush your liver every 2-3 weeks and it will, after several flushes or several months, normalize liver function. Consider also home made yogurt and kefir, instead of just only milk, and instead of probiotic capsules. Yogurt culture digests lactose making milk easier to digest. Also, do some yogurt enemas, to help your microbiota directly. White Shark   [End]
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