Then Jesus is a liar? (Christianity Debate) 5/9/2007 867204

Then Jesus is a liar?

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Then Jesus is a liar?

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"Jesus and God are the same, and yes there is a judgement day coming, and you will be judged. to heaven or hell. even a child knows this."

Then Jesus in John 5:22 and John 8:15 is a liar?

A child "knows" it only if they have been programmed by an unbeliever.

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God judges no one. And neither does Jesus. #73099 18 y 8,135
- Jesus and God are the same, and yes there is a jud... ginseng007 18 y 7,540
  - Then Jesus is a liar? #73099 18 y 7,612
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    - Well, the sodium chlorite solution that I used was... ginseng007 18 y 7,834
      - Jesus is in fact both a liar and a sinner. The pro... Topstroke11 18 y 7,433
        
        ”there is not one single place where a man is comm... sans sucre 18 y 7,213
        
        Paul also said that the husband should sacrifice f... typhonblue 18 y 7,325
  - Re: God judges no one. And neither does Jesus. manoftruth 18 y 7,656
    - dont be a fool, you know completely, Jesus and God... ginseng007 18 y 7,629
      - I am not a fool. Jesus IS the son of God. He sai... manoftruth 18 y 7,501
        
        I agree! So also, Christ did not glorify Himself ... momto2 18 y 7,369
        
        Christ said if you have seen me you have seen the ... ginseng007 18 y 7,560
      - the truth about God and His Son manoftruth 18 y 7,467
        
        in the spirt world its different then here on eart... ginseng007 18 y 7,462
      - To deny that we are all gods is to deny the teachi... #73099 18 y 7,596
        
        The problem with the Christians is that they don’t... theflava 18 y 7,332
        
        The teachings of Jesus are simple, and true #73099 18 y 7,725
        
        you sound like you are from a cult, talking this w... ginseng007 18 y 7,471
        
        "you sound like you are from a cult, t... #73099 18 y 7,414
        
        Re: The teachings of Jesus are simple, and true theflava 18 y 7,513
        
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        To answer the point, the sins of Jesus are even gr... Topstroke11 18 y 7,407
        
        Well, how about the fact that it was not Jesus him... sans sucre 18 y 7,235
        
        wipe your butt with your observations. read the b... ginseng007 18 y 7,699
        
        Get your nose out of the Bible and look around.&nb... Corinthian 18 y 7,188
        
        I agree. I feel that upholding Jesus has nothing t... theflava 18 y 7,290
        
        Is there any reason I should stop taking my supple... ginseng007 18 y 7,474
        
        Accuse, accuse,accuse. That's the real antichrist #73099 18 y 7,582
        
        diabolos(devil) - the slanderer and false accuser ... trapper/kcmo 18 y 7,355
        
        73099-you are SUCH a breath of fresh air! High on Water 18 y 7,478
        
        Re: To deny that we are all gods is to deny the te... ginseng007 18 y 7,558
      - You're right Ginseng. beej 18 y 7,396
        
        Not really #73099 18 y 7,465
        
        You are positively going to hell with this kind of... ginseng007 18 y 7,373
        
        I've been to hell #73099 18 y 7,435
        
        I do NOT want to ban you, but it can happen. Afte... knows 18 y 7,221
        
        Hell and Back sans sucre 18 y 7,240
        
        Couldn't agree more n/m #73099 18 y 7,320
        
        Re: So I guess you're ALL KNOWING #42407 18 y 7,364
        
        Only The Lord has the right to decide someone’s ul... been there done that 18 y 7,322
        
        Are God's children gods ? beej 18 y 7,160
        
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        "Psalm 82:1 God standeth in the congre... #73099 18 y 7,698
        
        I think you need John 8:16 along with :15, beej 18 y 7,198
        
        Jeez-us! NOBODY is judged when they die. GOD IS... theflava 18 y 7,278
        
        "8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment ... #73099 18 y 7,707
        
        How you will be judged. beej 18 y 7,258
        
        You only judge yourself #73099 18 y 7,389
        
        I’m my own guru. I like to read a few Tony Robbins... beej 18 y 7,383
        
        Then Jesus was a liar? n/m #73099 18 y 7,540
        
        How would that make Jesus a liar, beej 18 y 7,223
        
        It's pretty simple #73099 18 y 7,590
        
        I think I see your problem. beej 18 y 7,177
        
        Psalm 33:10 The LORD bringeth the counsel of the ... trapper/kcmo 18 y 7,456
        
        Hey, you know I love you man, beej 18 y 7,339
        
        Im a 20 year old male, who started getting a redne... trapper/kcmo 18 y 7,215
        
        It's become like some new religion. beej 18 y 7,211
        
        not hardly. everything is connected, however. th... trapper/kcmo 18 y 7,358
        
        The problem is that nobody believes what Jesus tau... #73099 18 y 7,646
        
        ”If you follow the Golden Rule you will not violat... beej 18 y 7,212
        
        Re: The problem is that nobody believes what Jesus... #73099 18 y 7,604
        
        ”Have you yet spoken to God about this? What are ... beej 18 y 7,253
        
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        Your answers came from Paul, not God #73099 18 y 7,615
        
        paul is also the twelfth apostle, chosen directly ... trapper/kcmo 18 y 7,203
        
        Re: It's pretty simple melvel 18 y 7,338
        
        the blind leading the blind trapper/kcmo 18 y 7,281
        
        Re: It's pretty simple been there done that 18 y 7,386
        
        My point was not to say that someone should be cru... melvel 18 y 7,498
        
        Re: You only judge yourself trapper/kcmo 18 y 7,242
        
        Re: Are God's children gods ? trapper/kcmo 18 y 7,209
        
        That was so very sad! Her death seems so unn... ginseng007 18 y 7,425
        
        Are your children apes? #73099 18 y 7,574
        
        Re: Not really ginseng007 18 y 7,773
        
        At least you are consistant #73099 18 y 7,677
        
        Re: Not really trapper/kcmo 18 y 7,597
- we judge ourselves trapper/kcmo 18 y 7,273
- Re: God judges no one. And neither does Jesus. melvel 18 y 7,369
  - "It is interesting that someone would ... #73099 18 y 7,513
    - ”That isn’t judging Christians, it is a simple obs... been there done that 18 y 7,263
      - Tell it to Jesus, not to me #73099 18 y 7,677
    - Re: God judges no one. And neither does Jesus. melvel 18 y 7,480
      - We all have the holy spirit within us #73099 18 y 7,455
        
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        ”When you look in the mirror you are looking at th... been there done that 18 y 7,220
        
        You mean you don't believe Jesus? #73099 18 y 7,612
        
        Edited #73099 18 y 7,519
        
        Re: We all have the holy spirit within us melvel 18 y 7,427
        
        You have twisted the words of Jesus to fit somethi... #73099 18 y 7,611
        
        Definition of Savior: One who saves, preserves,... melvel 18 y 7,319
        
        You save yourself #73099 18 y 7,593
        
        John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he ga... melvel 18 y 7,208
        
        "a" savior? John 14:6 "...no one comes to the Fath... been there done that 18 y 7,258
        
        So what? #73099 18 y 7,552
        
        Re: "a" savior? John 14:6 "...no one comes to the ... melvel 18 y 7,310
        
        n/m #73099 18 y 7,249
        
        Re: You save yourself #73099 18 y 7,419
        
        the kinddom of God is within you, ONLY if you beli... ginseng007 18 y 7,384
        
        john said behold the lamb of God who taketh away ... ginseng007 18 y 7,281
        
        Re: the savior has emerged Prince313 13 y 5,044
  - there's a serious problem with this post #27302 18 y 7,414
    - Thank you. I am aware of the side effects and p... sans sucre 18 y 7,288
- Re: God judges no one. And neither does Jesus. #63987 18 y 7,558
  - "Matthew 25:46 Then they will go a... #73099 18 y 7,661
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      man judges on the earth, but when you die. you are... ginseng007 18 y 7,362
      - Ginseng, do believe in your heart that you walk th... sans sucre 18 y 7,246
        
        Most Christians cannot even eat non-violently, the... #79215 18 y 7,235
        
        Thank you SO MUCH for the encouragement. Yes, the... sans sucre 18 y 7,155
  - Get a real Bible. beej 18 y 7,234
    - get the real good bible the NASB study bible by j... ginseng007 18 y 7,379
      - God does not judge, ginseng007 does Corinthian 18 y 7,275
        
        Actually the NASB is a pretty good translation. It... kiwimac 18 y 7,447
      - Re: Get a real Bible. sans sucre 18 y 7,236
    - What in the world...I can’t believe you are splitt... #63987 18 y 7,299
      - You said ”to be punished forever”. It doesn’t work... beej 18 y 7,207
        
        Look...I really don’t understand what the problem ... #63987 18 y 7,372
- Re: God judges no one. And neither does Jesus. anonymousjane_01 18 y 7,403
  - a follower of an antichrist? #73099 18 y 7,476
    - Are you for real? Jesus JUDGED the Pharisees and ... anonymousjane_01 18 y 7,369
      - I'll keep posting what Jesus said and until you go... #73099 18 y 7,376
        
        John 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no ma... beej 18 y 7,166
        
        Also, beej 18 y 7,269
        
        "John 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I j... #73099 18 y 7,449
        
        ”Oh, I’ve read that text many times. You omit one... beej 18 y 7,308
        
        with that logic, you must be an evangelical minist... #73099 18 y 7,344
        
        Re: I'll keep posting what Jesus said and until yo... anonymousjane_01 18 y 7,382
        
        ”First of all, I proved to you that Jesus D... #73099 18 y 7,761
        
        Matthew 7:1(NIV) (Judging Others) 1”Do not judge... anonymousjane_01 18 y 7,401
        
        Christianity is extinct, only Churchianity exists Topstroke11 18 y 7,401

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