Ocean you can't even get you're anecdotes right, I said ''out'' of the kitchen. You say you came here for enlightenment and counsel yet your posts are belittling, diminishing and offensive towards men.Of course I'm sure you don't see it that way and will try to ''intellectualize'' your way out of it. However thats my opinion and i stand by it. You never indicated you did not want any men to reply. You should have said girlyboys only need reply!