Re: Vindication of Dr. Clark and Rife

>- Viruses are not even considered alive let alone a parasite

Your ignorance shows. A virus is the ultimate obligatory parasite according to the definition.

A parasite is any organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, for at least some part of its life, from the body of which it obtains nutriment or some form of its sustenance.

While a virus can not live on its own, it does qualify as a parasite.

>- she did not give complete schematics and she DID NOT specify a frequency

I am aware of the controversy. You however, have NEVER made any mistakes or omissions.

>- Have you heard of first copy, which is what I had

Yes, that is usually why second editions are published. So, why don't or didn't you sue her for such horrendous omissions. From your attitude and remarks, she obviously caused you serious pain and suffering.

>- Since when?

Always when real, true, legitimate evidence is presented. However, I m not going to be buffaloed by some of the junk that you present as evidence.

>- You have ignored all the evidence I have presented on the " Liver Flush Debate" forum,

You have not posted anything but anecdotal claims. If you consider that to be evidence, I am glad that you are not a member of the judicial system.

>- The one I am really interested in is how you think they obtain magnesium sulfate from calcium carbonate derived from seawater as you claimed.

Once again, the master of smoke and mirrors, you entirely misrepresent what I said. The magnesium is obtained from magnesium salts. Alchemy does not work in any economical sense. Elements can not be changed unless bombarded with highly energized nuclear particles or by fission. Magnesium is also a component of seawater, since you are obviously unaware.

>- if they are off or not as you claim when they are wrong in the first place

Another twisting of the facts. Some of the frequencies may well be off by a few Hz and some may not. However, the feedback that I have received is that zappers, Rife, and other electro-therapy devices do work very well in most cases. I publised statistics and the FDA called our customers looking for errors in our claims. They did find that our customers do have good results and as a result, classify our products as CLASS III devices when used on humans, along with pacemakers and dialysis machines.

I will state specifically that frequency therapy does work and due to the natural resonances involved, each organism has its own frequency and organelles within an organism will have their own frequencies as well.

>- knew anything about electrotherapy, cancer and its origins then you would know why it works

I do know plenty about electro-therapy, cancer, and its origins. I know enough to know that there is not just one modality involved, but several, each having an additive effect. As is well known, I managed to zap my own cancer and some frequencies did not work, and others did.

>- some frequencies will also be able to kill human cells

Yes, this one reason why she gave a range in her second edition and all later books. However, while some human cells do have resonances within the range but there is an aspect of the human cell that makes it somewhat impervious to these frequencies. That is the difference between the cells of higher lifeforms have a flexible cell membrane where many lower organisms have rigid cell walls or semi-rigid membranes. Flexible cell walls just shimmy like a balloon.

>- If that were the case then Rife would not have narrowed his list of frequencies down to a few related frequencies

This just goes to show that Rife did not find all of the answers and most likely did not investigate square waves but mostly centered his work around sinusoidal waves.

>- would not touch a Zapper

Your loss. Many people suffer great loss by not trying things. What you do not know can hurt. That aside, I agree that Rife is in general better if you can afford it.

>- the herbs she chose are known for fighting cancer, but not because of anything to do with parasites

A seriously misguided idea. Wromwood and Green tincture of walnut have been known to have anti-parasitic properties from centuries ago. Use of Wormwood dates back to before 1500 B.C., and evidence of Wormwood 's anti-parasitic use by Egyptian herbalists was found on papyrus from around this time.

>- If Rife could have continued his work then maybe he would have one day stumbled upon the key as to why different frequencies were not needed for different diseases.

Yes, but even better, he might have come to the realization that more could be accomplished with multiple frequencies and might have even delved deeper into square waves and harmonics.

>- where I have been royally kicking

Your opinion only and what you present as facts is not just questionable, it is mostly anecdotal garbage. You have not posted even one single peer reviewed study that showed negative results for flushing. Sadly for you, you rate yourself much higher than others do.

Additionally, either you are retired with lots of spare time and nothing better to do, or you are paid to be here posting your bunk. This is easy to tell from the hours of time you spend putting all of your bunk out there. I noticed that only 2 of 15 agreed with your post "Would you like a Liver Flush with that colon cleanse? ", my ratings are much higher. As a matter of point, most of your posts have very little positive votes and a large number of negative votes, so what you consider kicking but is fluff.

>- when it is based on bogus research it is already by definition over priced and fluff

Once again, the even FDA could not find any evidence that our products do not work. What they found was lots of very satisfied customers. At least one of their agents accused us of hypnotizing our customers. The fact is that while not perfect, the zapper does have at least a reasonable level of effectiveness for certain applications. We certainly have solid proof that it can kill microbes living in water. We also have plenty of data to show that some microbes are killed quicker at one frequency while others are more susceptible to other frequencies.

On top of that it was not an effort to make a personal attack, but to point out that to the great majority of people here, you not only appear to be narrow minded, but portray the image of close mindedness. I will say that I have seen a few changes in what you say on a few topics since you first appeared on these forums. That is welcome, but your pretending that you have all of the answers because you have read a few pages of Rife, Bare, Lahovsky, or others, does not cut it. I have been living, breathing, and eating Electro therapy for the past 11 years to the tune of 12 to 16 hours a day. I do not just read, I have a lab and test it. Since Rife, Clark, and whoever else is not here, others like myself are pursuing the badly needed answers. No, I am not the only one and qiute possibly not the best. But at least, I am doing and making progress.

>- did you realize that they never claimed anyone was cured by this method

Yes, I do not claim cures either. All that I claim is that my products kill germs in water.

>- Chemotherapy can achieve those results

Look again, what they were receiving was palliative. They were on their death bed and had exhausted their chemo / radiation options. If they had been given this treatment early on as their primary therapy, they would have fared much better.

Please do not take what I say as a personal attack because that is not what is intended. You have a habit of taking certain things that you read as gospel and in your fervor spread a lot of poorly based misinformation. Learn to open you mind and give the things that you are hard set against at least a bit of study. While I think that you are definitely smart, educated, and somewhat knowledgeable, there are many things that you are overlooking. Your efforts would be more effective and much better appreciated if you would delve into things further before slamming the door in denial.

I do want to express that while I know that some of Dr. Clark's early work had definite shortcomings, she did try to make corrections in her later writings and for this I give her Kudos. She opened the door for many of us into a number of aspects of our health and made us think about things. I have a lot of research still left to do and could do it sooner if I did not have to spend so much time on these forums undoing the damage that has been caused by others who have posted either poorly based information or intentionally try to provide bad information.