Re: I have never heard Hveragerthi make an an irresponsible statement...

 Okay, so you prove once again you don't know what you are talking about.

According to you.  So you are a self-proclaimed know it all?  Apparently you think so.

I've lost quite a bit of respect for you after reading your posts in this thread.

Do you think I really care.  I am not here to make friends, I am here to educate people.  Just because someone THINKS I am wrong and therefore loses respect for me does not matter.  If they are not willing to look in to the facts before assuming I am wrong then the problem is with them, not me.

What falsehoods you've brought here.

Again, just because you think someone is wrong this does not make them wrong.

First of all, waveform is critical.

Well duh!!!!  Why do you think I brought that up in my other post?!!!  So you just lost all credibility for going on the attack without bothering to get all the facts before hand!

You have admitted in your own forum that you don't know what waveform works best when using the 666 Hz frequency.

I am not an electrician, which is why I was working with someone who does understand waveforms and who experimented with the different waveforms.  Using your same reasoning we can also come to the conclusion that just because a rocket engineer understands how a space shuttle should be designed that they should also know how how all the electronics should work in the shuttle as well as the fuel system,  composites, etc.  Are you really that dumb?!!!  Nobody has all the answers, which is why we work in teams so others can fill in the gaps where we fall short.

That shows a blatant ignorance about the subject. Are you aware that square waves produce harmonics?

See above.  I understand disease causes and progressions as well as how certain things can deal with these.  Again I worked with someone that knew more about electronics than anyone I have ever met.  We worked together again because this allowed us to look at all angles.  

But again, using your own same reasoning I could conclude that you are totally ignorant of the subject since you have no clue how the effect of these frequencies are affecting the different aspects of disease and disorders.  You may know electronics, but again you cannot build a space shuttle on your own.  Point is that there is a lot more to the whole subject than simply knowing how to create a frequency, which apparently is all you know.

Here is why I know you are wrong. You are correct in the idea that the 666 Hz is a good frequency to use. However, you are COMPLETELY wrong on the "WHY"! It has nothing to do with "bringing your body back into proper resonance."

No, you are wrong again.  You are taking one tiny part of the story and making a determination of you are right without looking at the whole story.

Bear in mind that the exact frequency is 666.666 Hz, not just 666 Hz.

Oops, you are wrong again.  As I just got done saying you are only looking at one page of the whole story.  If you knew the whole story then you would have known that there was a basis for Rife's frequencies, and this basis specifically requires 666hz.

When 666.666 Hz is used in a SQUARE wave, the third harmonic, approximately 2000 Hz, is exactly an octave of the frequency 1000 Hz, the frequency that the co-discoverer of HIV Luc Montagnier discovered to emanate from a majority of bacteria.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Montagnier#Research_on_electromagnetic_signa...

I know who Montagnier is.  I had written about him in a book I was doing on AIDS 20 years ago.

But clearly you must not either read or understand the links you post.  Did you bother to read and understand these points from your link?:

In 2009, Montagnier published two controversial research studies which, if true, "would be the most significant experiments performed in the past 90 years, demanding re-evaluation of the whole conceptual framework of modern chemistry."^[2]

They were published in a new journal of which he is chairman of the editorial board,^[3] allegedly^[2] detecting electromagnetic signals from bacterial DNA (M. pirum and E. coli) in water that had been prepared using agitation and high dilutions,^[18] 

http://www.springerlink.com/content/0557v31188m3766x/


Read his study, in detail. The frequency 1000 Hz was detected from almost all of the pathogenic bacteria, but not from the probiotic bacteria like Lactobacillus.

ROTFLMAO!!!!  First of all from YOUR OWN LINK above it clearly states that he self published this report in a journal that he chairman of the editorial board.  That is like you claiming that quartz is a vegetable, then self publishing your claim in your own journal, then claiming this is solid evidence of the claim even though there is no review of the findings.  Do you realize how ridiculous that is to claim this is real evidence?!!!!   I sure am glad you are not a real researcher!

When you run the frequency 666 Hz with a square wave, you are in fact generating this 1000 Hz frequency found in all bacteria (but in one upper octave form). Thus, you are either 1) actually vibrating the bacteria to death (contradicting your false claims about bringing the body to proper resonance) OR 2) cancelling out the transmission of 1000 Hz from the bacteria themselves, which likely causes their sterility/immobility as a result.

Neither of your links even mention 666.666hz.  Hint, if you are going to present links as evidence of your claims then they should at least talk about what you are talking about.

If that was not bad enough you also overlooked the firestorm he created with his claims.  No wonder he had to self publish in a journal in which he was the chairman of the editorial board.  No respectful journal would EVER publish such shoddy, unverified work.  Probably explains why in the last several years he never presented any other research to verify his claims and why he never had his research verified.  All he did again was set up a storm of controversy:

http://sciencecircle.org/index.php/science-news/68-scorn-over-claim-of-telepo...

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/01/it_almost_makes_me_disbelieve.php

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20927951.900-why-we-have-to-teleport-di...

There is a reason that research needs to be verified by independent sources.

This is not to say that Montagnier was completely off base.  Everything has a frequency.  But as the last link states that I posted above, the equipment that Montagnier used would not have been able to detect these frequencies, which just further added to the controversy.

All of this is for naught if you run 666 Hz with a sine wave. Sine waves do not produce harmonics, thus the 2000 Hz harmonic is NOT produced.
You have never mentioned this to your followers who ask you about using Rife machines and 666 Hz. Probably because you have no clue. You really don't.

Already went over this above.

Stop while you are ahead, Hv. This self-destruction of your credibility is just plain embarrassing to witness.

I am not the one posting links that say nothing about what is being claimed and then try to claim that unverified claims are absolute evidence.  So I am not the one losing the credibility here.

edit: I forgot to mention an important point. If running an octave (or subharmonic) of 1000Hz can cure cancer, why not just run 1000Hz itself? I have tested the frequency 1000 Hz extensively, both in a sine wave and a square wave, and have found it to have not as much effect as a 666 Hz square wave. The reason is that when you run the frequency 666.666 Hz as a square wave, the third harmonic 2000 Hz is like a 1000 Hz being modulated by a second 1000 Hz wave, along with the hundreds of harmonics of the original 666 Hz wave. The modulation is obviously critical to the effect, then.

Once again, if you understood the concept of why Rife's frequencies really worked then you would 1" Understand why 666hz, not 666.666hz was being used and  2.  Why it had nothing to do with disrupting cell membranes and  3.  That the supposed harmonics of bacteria are irrelevant.