Re: Fermentation, pesticides & other 'cides' +edit...Re: They told you they are raw? hmmm Re: it IS raw... but is Bragg's raw? Is it really?

I honestly didn't even read your whole post because you're giving me a headache  Like I said, I wasn't replying "to you" - it actually doesn't concern me whether you read the post or not...but I am sorry if I inadvertantly gave you a headache.

instead of simply ordering one of these vinegars and trying it for yourself, you have decided you can intellectualize and theorize exactly how and why when the effect it might have on you. You can't. Right now I have over 14 bottles of vinegar in my pantry - 5-6 of them are balsamics (two are much higher quality than those you suggested).  I have never once intellectualized or theorized what effect "your special vinegar" might have on me (I've been using balsamic/other vinegars for almost 25 years).  Besides, if I ordered it and reported what I thought, I can't imagine that you'd be interested in hearing what I had to say, or discussing it objectively (based on your posts in this thread).

You can post reams and reams of information about various pesticides in various fermentations and malic acid content and your own concepts and your own theories and how they prove this and how they prove that ad nausem, and guess what? It won't change a thing! I haven't posted about my own concepts or theories or proven anything - all I've done is posted various facts about balsamic vinegars and abstracts of studies showing what you claimed to be a fact (fermentation breaks down pesticides), is not a fact at all (except in a few cases with specific chemicals and specific microorganisms)..and pleasantly asked you to provide data that would support what you claimed to be a fact.  The last time I checked, all CZers are allowed to post data, offer information and challenge other posters' claims if they feel they are erroneous.  I am quite sure I don't know everything (not even close) about issues regarding "fermentation & chemicals" - that's why I asked you to provide data that supported your claim...because I wanted to learn.

AGAIN, I'm glad you've had a good experience with these vinegars, and that the black currant is yummy.

Uny