They told you they are raw? hmmm Re: it IS raw... but is Bragg's raw? Is it really?

There website shows they are not: https://www.vomfassusa.com/commerce/description.jsp?catId=35

Aceto Balsamico di Modena

Acidity and sweetness, spice and wood - together in harmony.  Shimmering like black pearls, the rich end bright essence of balsamic vinegar brings excitement to salads, meats, and vegetables. Aceto Balsamico is a quintessential flavoring concentrate, even in the smallest quantity. Among experts, the Balsamico from Modena is known as the most valuable and best balsamic vinegar.

More than 900 years ago the aristocracy already knew this precious liquid as a tonic, remedy, and condiment.  The original Aceto Balsamico di Modena is based on the juices ofthe Trebbiano and Lambrusco grapes, which are cultivated on the mountainsides around Modena, Italy, or in the province of Reggio Emilia.  As early as 1912, Elena Monari and her brother decided to apply for a license to sell their carefully kept secret recipe.

Currently, the family Monari in its third-generation takes care of the partly age-old stock of Aceto and selects only the best, firm grapes for our marvellous balsamic vinegar. The grapes have to be fully ripe or even better overripe. A unique concentrate is revealed through the procedure of very gentle reduction at a maximum of 80 degrees Celsius, [this is over 170 degrees F]  then matured in long rows of wooden casks in well ventilated lofts. These casks of different sizes and types are exposed to the seasons. Dryness and humidity refine the valuable elixir day by day. Originally enriched with old wine vinegar and vinegar mother a part of the balsamic vinegar will gradually evaporate and will be refilled with new wine. This produces an immensly sensitive mixture of young and matured balsamic vinegar.

first off I just got off the phone with the people at vom fass, and all of their vinegars are raw and unfiltered. They are not however organic  The info above is from the link on the 'aged balsamic vinegars' - that same link isn't available on the aged fruit balsamic vinegars, so I have no way of knowing whether it applies to all of their selections or not.  There are some balsamic vinegars that are raw (or claim to be), but it's the exception rather than the rule (and most would be clearly labeled).

Google search "is balsamic vinegar raw?": http://tinyurl.com/32rrk2o

Google search "raw balsamic vinegar":http://tinyurl.com/387x63e

But let's talk about Bragg's for a minute '
Braggs likes to brag that their raw apple cider vinegar "contains the mother"
But does it really? I know two people who tried to use Bragg's as a starter culture for their own vinegar. both failed. Both knew what they were doing, and both eventually succeeded when they SWITCHED to a different starter  
I don't believe that Bragg's has the mother in it. I just don't. I have yet to meet anybody who has successfully used it as a starter culture for anything. Have you? If you or anyone else has successfully used it as a starter culture I would be very curious to find out how it went.
So is it really raw? We don't know. We only have their word to go on and quite frankly we now know that the Bragg's family has a long colorful history of telling one lie after another, but I guess that is another story. And yet it is related. Because these are people you cannot trust. I mean Patricia isn't even Paul's daughter as she claims to be. And let's not even get into all of Paul's ridiculous lies that he told over many decades

Sorry, I don't use Bragg's anymore (I get a less expensive/generic brand that I'm happier with); maybe someone else will have information regarding the"Bragg's issues".

so what about the pesticide issue? many people do not realize that pesticides actually break down quite readily during the fermentation process. I doubt there is even the tiniest trace amount of any pesticides left after 10 years of fermentation!

By all means believe whatever you'd like about fermentation & poisons :) My point wasn't /isn't to debate whether or not poisons break down during fermentation - I was simply pointing out that non-organic grapes are particularly high in pesticides/herbicides, because there are many people (myself included) that don't believe that fermentation eliminates poisons (and there are people that don't care to ingest the mysterious by-products, even if fermentation does).

And besides all of the above, the fact of the matter is that this vinegar does something for me that no other vinegar has ever done. It is such a unique and powerful experience.  'Glad to hear you had a good experience!

Uny