i dont make deals with snakes. i wasnt talking to you and just because the subject was you is ON you. its you who are the narcissist who wants all this attention. just because you are butthurt is no sweat off me. and dont threaten me. i can prove everything i have said and this entire site is witness to it all. you dont want me to talk about you, leave me alone, for the fifth time. youre stalking me, genius. not the other way around. i cant believe you were so dumb as to take my plainly labeled bait. besides, what are you going to threaten me with? you dont think i counted the ...
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You asked to be left alone, yet you keep writing crap about me. I’ll be glad to leave you alone, provide you leave me alone and stop denigrating me. If you make more false statements about me, I won’t let them go unanswered. Best is for you to stop, and I will forever ignore you in return. Deal ?   [End]
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i apologize for the wildlife. it is an open forum.   [End]
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ah, there you are. just look at what youve done to the forum. just because you are a good con man doesnt mean shit to me. i havent met the webmaster but i have met you and the webmaster has no idea who he is dealing with. besides, i wasnt talking to you. for the third time - leave me alone. i will talk to whoever i want about any subject i want. you came to curezone trolling. out of that pile of dung grew the beautiful flower which was VWT. your job was done a long, long time ago. now, instead of fertilizer, it just stinks. leave me alone.   [End]
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If you can’t take it, don’t dish it.   [End]
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Oh, I see the problem now. You either can’t read or don’t read the replies. Now it all makes sense...   [End]
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The mistake was mine, when I asked webmaster to make you a moderator. I regret that choice. Do you have the ability to quit cutting me down , or is this a new obsession of yours ?   [End]
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No reasonable true researcher would burn the time you have, on this forum writing the things you have. Are you unemployed ?   [End]
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You mean the same journals that Dr. Blaylock cited? I’m fully aware of what goes on in science considering I actually am a scientist. No study on its own should be cited as proof of anything. It is only when multiple studies from independent groups repeatedly show similar results that we can begin to consider a hypothesis valid. Vitamin A is actually much more than 3 molecules. Generally, vitamin A exists in 3 states of oxidation, as an alcohol, an aldehyde, or as a carboxylic acid. However, within those three categories, there are many different isomers of the vitamin A molecule, some ...
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the webmaster made a huge mistake letting him back on the forum as a mod.  one will notice the silence from all other parties of the past.  and yes, as you have observed, moderating him was always an extra burden through the years. as long as he leaves me alone i will ignore him. [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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It will be ok. The issue isn’t that there’s retinol in the food for people’s stomachs, the issue is the well-known massive fraud in the medical journals, upon which minds like yours are bred and fed, continuously. New Eng. J. Med. even had a good article on it, searching the web pulls up dozens of articles, here’s one maybe but the point is, you have extra work to do, to separate the chaff published by those who run the industry https://thepeopleschemist.com/fraud-in-medical-journals ”The basis for my assertions about the American diet is the fact that most breakfast foods are eit ...
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Also, I believe it is you who has come across as the crackpot here. Just guessing, but I bet that the majority of people who read this thread will see that.   [End]
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If the V wasn’t in the name of the forum, I would swear Vulcanel was a troll. I’m honestly shocked at the vitriol thrown my way for talking about my scientific ideas. What a joy they must be to know in real life...   [End]
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Clearly, you do not have the intellect to comprehend analogies. That’s good to know for my future responses.   [End]
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The basis for my assertions about the American diet is the fact that most breakfast foods are either fortified with large amounts of vitamin A or contain large amounts of naturally occurring vitamin A. Combine this with the fact that a large proportion of food either contains egg yolk and/or cheese, and you have a large proportion of people potentially consuming too much retinol. This doesn’t even take into account the inordinate amounts of vitamin A in multivitamins. Sure, some of it is beta-carotene. But, a lot of it is preformed retinol. Nor does it take into account the insane amounts ...
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I think you’re full of it and I disagree. You wrote ”a number of people develop retinol toxicity from taking amounts lower than the current RDA” Ok, please stop the suspense, what is the number ?? Three ? What is the factual basis for your assertion that a majority of Americans consume a combination of fortified cereal, eggs, and cheese throughout the day ? This has not been my observation. Are you guessing ? A majority is more than half, so you’re claiming 160 million people consume those items, ”throughout the day”. Nonsense. If you suspect many people are suff ...
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Pathetic, devolving this to now include Jews and Nazis. Your postings are definitely disruptive, none of it relates even remotely to iodine Support, and you keep coming back to defend yourself. Nobody cares !! But, you are entertaining at some level, thanks for the merriment.   [End]
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sometimes, names are just true descriptors. https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2413937#i   [End]
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Also, as I stated earlier, what constitutes an overdose for one person may not for another because the reaction is highly individual. A number of people develop retinol toxicity from taking amounts lower than the current RDA, which can easily be achieved by consuming a combination of fortified cereal, eggs, and cheese throughout the day. The majority of Americans do this. This is why I suspect many people are suffering from a chronic retinol toxicity.   [End]
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I agree. The first person to call the other a name in an argument is the loser. You lost when you resorted to calling me a disruptor. Thanks for acknowledging this fact. The Nazis were notorious for claiming that Jewish people were doing to them what in fact they were doing to Jewish people. This is exactly what you have done in this thread. That is a fascistic tactic. Anyone with greater than a two-digit I.Q. reading this thread knows I doled out some science and you got emotional about it. It’s obvious when you compare your demeanor to mine. I have remained rational and calm and yo ...
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”It often takes much longer than a day for a message to have an effect on the internet...” So, you’re experienced with having and effect on the internet ? hahah, my posts are permeated with projection. Whatever. The first person to call the other a name loses the debate, Dushan wrote that. You say I am using fascist tactics, that’s a joke, right ? I think you’re a disruptor is all. Plain and simple. Anyone reading what you wrote can see it !! It is nice you are motivated to help others. What is your position on vaccines ? Fluoride ? Bromide ? These are f ...
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It often takes much longer than a day for a message to have an effect on the internet unless it’s a celebrity on Twitter saying something controversial. I’ve been talking about the toxicity of retinol for a long time now both on and off the internet. Just like any other scientific proposal, it is met with mixed responses. Frankly, I don’t care what you plan to do or not do with this forum. This is irrelevant to the discussion. Your posts are permeated with projection. You routinely accuse me of doing exactly what you are doing, a fascistic tactic I have come to see relatively co ...
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first true thing youve said today. [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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Its been a day since your first warning about retinol. Do you think your message had any effect ? Have you posted your warning anywhere else ? If not, why not ? If so, where ? How have others responded ? This forum isn’t anywhere nearly as popular as it once was, beginning when I started it in 2007 and up until about 2015, it rose to become essentially the fastest growing forum on the site. This was only possible because of strong management skills and the help of a couple senior moderators. Part of that success included the barring of disruptive types who attempte ...
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No thanks. I will say and respond with whatever I feel like. Again, since you still haven’t acknowledged the point, I did not take this thread off topic. Somebody else did by making a dangerous suggestion to take large amounts of retinol. I responded with a word of caution. It could have been left at that. It was you who got all bent out of shape about my word of caution. This thread devolved because of you, not me.   [End]
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Yes, anything not remotely related to iodine supplementation, that sidetracks an initial discussion, doesn’t belong in the forum. Someone , original poster, made a helpful comment about their eyesight, and look what you’ve made this thread now Clearly, if your true intent was to warn others about retinol, you would have gone and posted your un-asked-for opinions on a different forum, because other forums reach more people. You’ve disrupted the forum. Not a big deal, its been done before. Try to be a little more orderly and focused, you’ll reach more of your intended audienc ...
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whoever you are, I don’t want to argue with you about retinol, I have far better things to do, like clean my trash cans. I’m glad you like the article. I hope it makes you happy. Have a nice day.   [End]
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You are apparently trying to police certain types of speech here. Who is the actual communist?   [End]
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Save us, oh great one !! Again, this is iodine support forum. It seems to me you are like Trapper, always absorbed in others’ business. Thats a commie way to be, instead of focusing on your own matters, you come to disrupt an iodine forum. If you truly want to warn people about retinol, there are other forums on this site where your message would be seen by many many more people. Thus, its clear your intent was not to warn anyone, but to disrupt this forum. Plain and simple. Now, please, go mind your own business, ok ?   [End]
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This article supports my position on higher amounts of vitamin A. Are you trying to use it to refute my position? It clearly doesn’t. The problem is what constitutes an overdose for one person may not for another. Retinol-binding protein levels are highly individual. Some people make more than enough and some people are quite deficient. Those who are deficient, particularly due to a disease process, can develop retinol toxicity at even normal or below normal retinol intakes.   [End]
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I didn’t write it, and you don’t have to like it. I hope you didn’t hurt yourself taking all that retinol. I’m not smart enough to understand all this, but maybe you or Trapper can: Cancer and Vitamin A Vitamin A intake has a complex relationship with cancer prevention: while small doses of vitamin A or beta-carotene appear to help prevent cancer, higher doses seem to have the reverse effect. The anti-cancer effects of beta-carotene appear to stem from its anti-oxidative ability to scavenge for reactive oxygen species, as well as through its conversion to vitamin A, ...
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No, It shows that you’re off-topic and disruptive. Why would I want to argue with any of you all ? You are free, now go bother some other forum, ok ?   [End]
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Removed because I don’t want to inflame the situation more.   [End]
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blah blah blah, this isn’t a vitamin forum, you’re way off-topic.   [End]
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And this response shows that you have no actual argument. I responded to someone else going off topic. I then responded to you. That is the only reason I went into this territory. I felt it was important to put out a word of caution to warn others not to follow the advice above to take large amounts of retinol.   [End]
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Its a well-referenced article. Obviously you’re motivations are disruptive, this has nothing whatsoever to do with Iodine Support.   [End]
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ring of truth has real ring to it. thanks Stargazer1111   [End]
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who are you trying to help? or impress? aint nobody can understand that crap.   [End]
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Dr. Blaylock has always been apocryphal and I am quite skeptical of his claims. This is the same doctor who believes that vaccines cause autism, Parkinson’s and ALS despite mountains of evidence debunking this claim. There is a wealth of studies in Pubmed demonstrating that PUFA concentrations above 2% of calories result in lipid peroxidation and lipid peroxidation is one of the greatest predictors of shortening lifespan in animals. There is also a wealth of studies demonstrating the superiority of saturated fatty acids due to their lack of peroxidizability, even going so far as to cu ...
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Your emotionally charged response was unwarranted and indicates your inherent bias. Someone else took the forum off topic by suggesting supplementation of retinol. I study retinol as part of my academic work and responded with a word of caution. Retinol’s counterparts are the other fat-soluble vitamins, particularly vitamin D, but also vitamins E and K1/K2. There is an intricate relationship between all 4. Your assertion that I asserted that retinol can’t act as a terminator is a strawman argument. I never said this. Re-read my post. Retinol is very much like the polyunsaturat ...
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As long as we’re off topic outside the galaxy, here’s an article authored by a neurosurgeon explaining the benefits of a couple of polyunsaturated fats which are found in high concentrations in the brain. Merely because a molecule contains conjugated ethylenic linkages does not mean the body will quickly turn those linkages into peroxidated forms, there is much more going on in the body, so blanket statements like the one you’d writ should be scrutinized a little better. There are a lot of molecules in the body that are not very stable outside its environment but that’s not really imp ...
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OK professor. It seems you haven’t stumbled upon the right literature yet. I don’t come on here to argue about retinol, this forum is for iodine support, like it says at the top of the main page. So don’t be surprised if some moderator comes along and moves your postings to the vitamin A forum, if there is one. If there isn’t a Vitamin A forum, you might consider to ask webmaster to create one for you, then you can attract the right audience. Maybe start a Retinol Debate forum too, in case anybody cares to argue with you about it. What’s a retinol counterpart ? Which vitami ...
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The literature doesn’t support this position. Retinol can only act as a terminator when it is properly delivered to cells by retinol binding protein. Retinol binding protein is a strong beta barrel protein that evolved to encompass the retinol molecule in order to protect everything else from the molecule. When free retinol is present, it haphazardly donates electrons to anything that will accept them in the vicinity, including oxygen, and oxidized metals. This creates the chain reaction that eventually ends up producing peroxynitrite and other reactive nitrogen species that then inappropr ...
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I don’t know about that, it looks more like a free radical terminator to me, the radicals being terminated being peroxy and superoxy, which are essential for normal cell function. Destroy too many of those and you end up with unoxidized species normally oxidized in a healthy person, inhibit many essential processes in soft tissue. Free radicals are your friend, but only if maintained in their beneficial range of activity. A lot of ”health” problems come from too few or too many, at the extremes. This is how people accomplish a metabolic shift, by enabling free radical activity to go ...
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Yes. The redox chemistry is what makes it so toxic. It creates an inordinate amount of free radicals that go on to produce reactive oxygen and reactive nitrogen species that induce cell death. The brain and the gastrointestinal system are particularly sensitive to retinol.   [End]
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good post. A and D both are risky best i can tell.   [End]
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it is speculation but looking at retinol molecule it clearly is an electron transfer agent, and being a terpenoid I would guess that if a person took enough of it, they could induce liver cancer. ok, now I’ll go search for connection btw retinol and hepatoma   [End]
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This is dangerous advice. I study vitamin A in the field. Preformed vitamin A is markedly toxic and different people have different levels of tolerance for it. Supplementing with vitamin A is quite risky. I have consulted with a group of doctors who are proposing that the FDA lower the RDA from 5,000 IU per day down to around 600 IU. They, and I, believe that people are chronically overdosing on it given that it is in most fortified foods and a lot of people take it in a supplemental form. Getting anything over a few hundred IU per day of retinol is risky.   [End]
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remember also that iodine accentuates the effect of vitamin A and D. i found that iodine made supplementing A and D much less critical and i could supplement less when needed. your mileage may vary.   [End]
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Hiya! Grab strong vitamin A (Retinol, retinyl acetate, dunaliela algae are all excellent forms of it, especially the algae for a mood boost!). You can take it up over 50,0000 IU a day or higher for several weeks, (especially for very heavy periods and painful breasts) to destroy vital strongholds in the body. Give breaks though for your vitamin D levels to re-establish themselves though, since A and D are on a seesaw with eachother and A lowers production of red blood cells. I especially recommend the dunaliela because it is cheap as dirt and has a lot more than just beta carotene t ...
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Just wanted to put an update! I went to the optometrist a week ago and he informed me that my eyesight is improving, with a .50 shift in both eyes. I’ve been supplementing with Iodine since the start of the year (changing quantities to play with the detox, now on a pretty steady 125mg a day) and more recently also Borax (about two months in now, 1/8 tsp a day after a hell of a rocky detox start) - plus all the co supps. Eyesight is improving dramatically, skin is looking amazing, my energy is finally starting to be more consistent, my concentration and focus are phenomenally better ...
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August 24, 2018 Dear BRS Stakeholder, The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) announces today the deregulation of Nuseed Americas’ canola variety genetically engineered (GE) to contain in its seed INCREASED levels of docosahexaenoic acid (DHA), which is an omega-3 fatty acid. As part of the petition process, APHIS prepared a draft plant pest risk assessment (PPRA) and a draft environmental assessment (EA). APHIS made these documents available for a 30-day public review and comment period on June 26, 2018. After considering t ...
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if you’re having a problem producing enough breast milk, then you might want to check out this helpful website,, BreastfeedingIncreaseMilk.com It worked for me. Also,, can several of you give comments/advice on this thread in support of Moms with low breast milk supply and can you share with us your experience? What worked for you? Thanks and have a great day!   [End]
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Do you eat dairy? My daughter gets very bad body odor from eating dairy.   [End]
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I have the same problem. I use zymexII cloves and black walnut hulls   [End]
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pure sulfa on ebay in the dog hot spot section... very effective against candida   [End]
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There are lots of people with bigger problems in this world.   [End]
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Yes, I would look at liver congestion. Or suspect some rogue bacteria as others have said.   [End]
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https://www.liverdoctor.com/body_odor_sign_you_need_a_cleanse/   [End]
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What ever you do, don’t get down on yourself. You’re still alive. Letting it get to you mentally and getting down on your self just magnifies the problem by causing mental stress. Apparently your body isn’t taking out the trash. It happens. Could be the lymph system is clogged, or your digestive system. Do you exercise? Drink plenty of good water? A mini tramp is good for getting things moving, or you can walk if you don’t have one. Sadly the doctor you saw is not the only one that thinks drugs are the answer to everything They are the answer for the pharmaceutical companies, a ...
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I suggest that you take Ionic Colloidal Silver. It kills ALL bacteria, fungus & virus safely and without side effects. See details here: http://tinyurl.com/colloidal-silver-resources See testimonials, Candida here: http://tinyurl.com/colloidal-silver-testimonials Take the Ionic version of colloidal silver, not the particulate version. Grizz   [End]
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Well you should have taken the medication. You can’t be that desperate or you would have. It will helpyor emotions and then you will remember that you need to keep trying because there are lots of people who will use your valuable info when you get help. Hang in there. Keep fighting. You will beat this and you know your strong enough. Keep us posted. Its OK to have a meltdown. We all have.   [End]
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I saw a doctor today, he said he couldn’t smell anything. I told him I was depressed and couldn’t live like this.. he said he couldn’t help me. He told me not to come back there again and I was shocked. He said he had other patients. He said he could write me a prescription for Xanax to help me... I said no. I am just done with life. I don’t know what to do. I’ve tried everything. At this point I don’t even know if it’s candida. Maybe it’s TMAU? How am I supposed to know? No one will help me. No one cares about me. I am just done. I have tried the diet, tried all the supplements yo ...
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If you are familiar with natural news, you know he has his own lab and tests products. He recently tested Turmeric products. https://www.healthrangerstore.com/products/organic-turmeric-gold-3pack?variant=16535838913   [End]
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Hi, I’m wondering if anyone has any info. on taking Turmeric and the side effects of such? I’ve been reading great stuff about it for inflammation, brain health, etc... Started taking only 500 mg. once a day about a week ago. Woke up this morning with a red, itchy rash on the insides of my arms and neck and now have it all over my upper body. I googled about turmeric rash and so it is fairly common in certain people. I’m wondering if I should completely stop the turmeric, lower the dosage or what? Thank you in advance.   [End]
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Yes it is ”disease management”.   [End]
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Yes, Depending on the Grace of God.   [End]
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It isn’t ”health care”. It’s ”disease management”. It’s sickening. The devil’s in the details.   [End]
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I think your suspicions are right on! It certainly is a sad state of affairs with all of that. Thanks for the vent! I appreciate it and send it out to others you know. More people need to know the truth of what’s happening within mainstream healthcare. As scary as it can be, sometimes we are better off being our own doctors, at least in a lot of cases, maybe not all.   [End]
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Healing Healthcare or Healthy Profit Care Are insurance companies, doctors, the medical industry and the pharmaceutical companies in cahoots to simply make income from insurance payments, deductibles and co-pays. How do big profits come from human illness and human suffering? And who do those profits go to? If these are disease endorsing businesses they are perpetuating human suffering. How do insurance companies make money? How do pharmaceuticals make money? How do doctors make money? How do Hospitals make money? I really do not understand how the ‘Healthcare’ industry make ...
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Hello, I’m 25 from Israel and I started self ”medicating”. I’m from Israel and the vast majorty of doctors here have really no idea what they are doing. Anyways I have been on Cymbalta for chronic pain for 5 years till the point I said enough was enough, since I felt like shit and couldn’t function even in the slightest. I started reading online and doing my own research and decided to ask my doctor for hormonal blood tests, ofcourse he only gave me total testosterone ,TSH and fT4 my T scored low at 300 ng/dl TSH was 3 (0.5-5) and T4 Free was 13.9 p/mol ref range (10-20). Then he check ...
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Hmm.......other than rmvandevijver, I’m not aware that we are plagued by such trolls, and I would even hesitate to describe him in those terms. Conflicted, maybe; curious, perhaps; misguided, almost certainly. But troll? I seriously doubt it. So, please enlighten us. Who are these individuals of whom you speak? I would dearly love to know.   [End]
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Ya think? How about 20 employees or more last September but down to 10ish now. How can they keep the profits rolling in if they don’t have folks here pushing purchasing any kind of ’product’, since they own both arms now?   [End]
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Thing of it is, it appears as though few people are actually payed to argue against alternative medicine. But that doesn’t stop people from wanting to argue against it either. Call it human nature, trolling etc.   [End]
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The amount of deliberate alternative medicine confusion on this Cure Zone website is disgusting. It is SICK how many people are sitting out there on their computers purposely trying to obscure the truth. They are paid to make up stories to scare people away from possible cures just so the drug industry can profit. You people know who you are. How do you sleep at night? Deliberate confusion is the work of the devil.   [End]
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I take it everyone who visits these forums is aware that a free viewing of the TTAC docu-series is about to kick off again? I believe this is the link:   [End]
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Over 52 years using vitamin/mineral supplements, no doctors, no colds, flu, drugs or health issues. My supplements cost me less than most people spend on sodas and junk food. The crippling effects to the immune system by toxic refined sugars, white bread, white rice, pasta, limit starchy foods, vegetable oils, junk foods, chemicals in processed foods, all soft drinks, GMO, soy, soy milk, corn, microwave, deep fried foods and artificial sweeteners. The excess sugars in the body are used by fungus, yeasts, parasites, diseases to grow and replicate. Cause allergies, candida, bipol ...
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We wholeheartedly agree ! Supplements are typically chemically manufactured substances and are not even assimilated by the human organism. Vitamin C is certainly one of the most important nutrients but even nowadays most people do not get the minimum RDA of 50mg (approximately equivalent to one orange). Most of you will have heard the old wives saying ’an apple a day will keep the doctor away’ . Well that saying is very true. Without vitmain C your body will simply not function properly.   [End]
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