My last comment on this thread...
I'm going to end my participation in this thread as it has de-evolved into an "All About #7251" discussion rather than a source of healthy, reasonable assistance for someone who is asking for help. But, I'm going to give you my assessment which is based upon a formal education, nearly 1/2 century of Life's Experiences, and thousands of hours as a client AND a counselor. If you are squeemish of fact, then stop reading, now. If, however, you choose to continue reading, you are responsible for ANY discomfort that you experience, as you have been duly forewarned.
#72512, you are obviously very young and you haven't had the benefit of Life's Experiences (or, a formal education), and therefore not qualified to make broad, sweeping statements about how one gender prefers to be treated by another. Insisting that You Know What Women Want is arrogant, foolish, and obviously stated by someone who has a lot of growing up to do. You have no statistical frame of reference, nor any practical experience in counseling others on matters of emotional well-being. You have only YOUR view of Life, and it is fairly grim and self-centered, if I may say so.
"these women who use these forums would be more likely to be into self improvement, new age thinking, self love, upliftment of the consciousness of the world etc..." is also very inaccurate. Most of the women that I've come into virtual contact with at Curezone.com have come here as a LAST RESORT. They are sick, they are fearful, they are tired, or they are abused, and they are seeking ANSWERS. If we were the models of self-improvement, self-love, etc., that you deem us to be, we wouldn't be spending our time on forums - we'd be on book-signing, lecture tours and guesting on Oprah, for crissakes.
You may, however, state how YOU prefer to be treated, or how YOU feel about a particular subject - you are the only person you have any knowledge of or right to speak about. "What works for me," is appropriate because it HAS worked for you. Sharing what you have experienced is absolutely appreciated, particularly when you use your Self as a source of reference. "The women that I've been with..." is also appropriate. "All women," or, "Most women," or any such generalized statement is inaccurate and based upon your personal feelings - not fact, not statistics, and not even an educated guess.
I pity you that you are so resistant to viewing Life through the eyes of accountability and sensitivity. I also pity you that you are resistant to learning something that doesn't have to do with The Physical. All of the physical cleansings and body-building in the world cannot (and, WILL not) affect an emotional cleansing and healing, and that is a certain fact. With the most sincere tenderness, I would urge you to listen and learn and evolve.
I will opt to step off from this particular thread and end my debate with you. I shall not address you, personally, again. Best wishes to you. Jacob, if you're still reading, start a new thread and everyone will be pleased to offer any help or suggestions that they can. After all, this thread WAS about YOU, at one point! :)