Soulful...Re: sexless relationship
I think you were referring to me when you said: "One respondant to your concerns suggested that women (in general, I assume) are attracted to guys who are demeaning, mean, and degrading."
If so, this is what I said: "Second, 72512, I will not disagree with you, there are many females who do prefer the $##^&*!s, simply because they do not feel they are worthy of the nice guys and there are less nice guys out there."
I was not speaking of men who are demeaning, mean and degrading. A man can be an azz and play games without being demeaning or abusive. A nice guy, in my opinion, knows what he wants, treats a woman as a woman, and is not willing to play games. Unfortunately, many women, as well as men, who are parents do not teach their sons to respect females. They have standards for their daughters which are different from the standards they have for their sons.
"My son can go out all night and do as he wishes. Boys will be boys." Yet, their daughters are "expected in by a certain curfew and will not be out with the boys that they are creating through allowing their son to be "a boy"."
People do not see (or more precisely do not care) how their children are acting.
Schools have confirmed that there is Much abuse between boys and girls, in high school!...even some in middle (junior high) school.
I did not mean to go off on that rant. Pardon me.
Yet my meaning of girls preferring azzes is if they do not have self esteem, they do not feel worthy of a "good (nice) boy" and thus expect that.
I know when I was in the abusive...ass kicking, demeaning, degrading, devaluing, controlled...relationship, I did not have self esteem. I know I would have left, IF I had any. Unfortunately, in staying, it became even lower! A double edged sword!
At any rate, just wanted to clear up your thought of my words.
Peace, Beth