Evidence - Re: I agree, enough is ENOUGH! Re: bring it
In my post above, I have shared that disagreeing with him results in him posting attacks & lies about the person who disagrees with him. Below I have underlined the lies he has posted about me, changing references to me into "U" (so that more lies aren't permanently cached on the 'net about me).
The purpose of this additional post is to:
-- provide evidence for the Webmaster/others of him posting attacks & lies when someone disagrees with him, whether or not they've attacked or lied about him
-- provide evidence of him using the same underhanded tactics that he accuses others of using
--remind the Webmaster/others that these lies & accusations are slanderous; that they are 'permanently cached' on Google, The Wayback Machine and other 'net databases; and that action needs to be taken to prevent further damage.
This man DOES impede freedom of speech on CureZone in many different ways. Onward...
Zero personal attacks; no use of any poster's name or ID; nothing but information, quotes & questions (rhetorical, challenging & information seeking).
We can clearly see (from very valid sources, unlike someone remembering what they'd read from 'wherever' quite a while ago), that the average diameter of the CBD is NOT "actually" 2-4mm.
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1852852#i LOL!!! When did I ever say the common bile duct? I am really surprised that someone who at least makes an attempt to post evidence was not smart enough t realize that there is more than one duct involved! Luckily there are other people who know how to do research and realize that there are more than one duct I am smart enough to know there is more that one duct involved; I never claimed there was not more than one duct involved (all I did was provide sources showing the size of the common bile duct - no claims, no more, no less).
Since it seemed obvious to me that he was referring to the common bile duct, I immediately responded and asked him exactly which duct he was referring to that was 2-4mm/8mm maximum...and never received a reply. Yet he continued claiming that I had limited knowledge.
Continuing (more lies posted by him about me in the same or other threads):
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1852880#i
Maybe if they actually research the subject then they will also realize why the study posted by "U" was really irrelevant. Of course she would have known that if she understood what she was reading in the first place and realized that there are more ducts than just the common bile duct. I did understand what I was reading; stones larger than 1cm passing spontaneously
is relevant in a Liver Flush Debate, and of course I know there are more ducts in the liver than only the CBD.
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1852914#i
The fact is that all anyone has to do is to read through these threads to see you you and "U" have been making things up as you go along in a desperate attempt to try and win a debate you cannot win since you clearly cannot present even one piece of credible evidence to counter the evidence I already presented. I did not even POST in the thread above; I did not 'make anything up'; I was not desperate in any way, and I presented very credible evidence in the thread where I originally posted.
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1852865#i
Read my response to that post. "U" did a great job of providing the proof that the argument you and she are using is bogus!
But I didn't present an "argument" and I made no claims...I only presented information and sources that show the size of the CBD and the size of endoscopic balloons & the stones passed by using them (and a "bit" about how the transverse colon is pressing on the liver/gallbladder, it would prevent expansion).
and "U" are a couple of other big offenders as far as starting attacks and posting posts that are not on topic but rather nothing more than attacks. I have not posted any attacks in the Liver Flush Debate forum.
Using "U's" line of reasoning then we can also conclude that she believes chemotherapy and radiation therapy are effective for cancer. And that vaccines and fluoride are perfectly safe. After all so many people claim these are true, so according to "U" they therefore must be true!!! No, there is absolutely nothing in any of my posts anywhere that could lead anyone to conclude that! I do not believe chemotherapy/radiation are effective or vaccines/fluoride are safe. 'Tis yet another malicious lie with absolutely no basis in fact.
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http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1866425#i
Therefore, if you choose to keep making up lies about me you are simply going to discredit yourself even further!!! So he doesn't like it when people post lies about him? And claims it discredits the one lying. I don't like it either; and yes, telling lies negatively affects one's credibility. So be it.
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Things he believes should not be done in debate --
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1866699#i Now, what is debate? Debate involves taking a position and providing evidence to back that position. Debate is not personal attacks, it is not making up lies about the other person, it is not looking through other forums to find anything to twist in a poor attempt to try and discredit someone.
Also interesting how the LF trolls keep to turn this forum in to a debate me forum rather than keeping it a "liver flush debate" forum.
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1852852#i
This is why I would not follow your advice. You do a half a**** job of doing research then make very dangerous recommendations such as recommending cayenne for an aneurysm, which could be deadly if it ruptures. So he went "trolling" (his words) into my forum to find my recommendation and then used it in the Liver Flush Debate forum to attack me...just as he accuses others of doing. My research & personal experience (empirical research AND "scientific") shows that capsicum/cayenne has been found to both prevent internal bleeding as well as break up clots)...so it is a slanderous lie to accuse me of giving life-threatening advice (whether he is aware of the current data and empirical evidence or not)
(from the same post) Of course I saw your thread on comfrey as well where it was claimed that there have never been any reported cases of liver damage from comfrey use in humans. Guess what, I went on to Medline and found a number of cases in no time flat. Again, he "trolled" (his words) into my forum to find something else he could lie about on the Liver Flush Debate forum. From here: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1593613#i My exact words (while pretending to respond sarcastically to the FDA): "Yes, there are reports that associate oral exposure to comfrey with VOD, but there are none that prove it...or you (the great and almighty FDA) would definitely be mentioning it." AND "but there has never been a verified instance of anyone using Comfrey and developing liver disease because of it". I never claimed there were no reported cases.
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1849734#i I should have known that it would not be long before you came out from under your bridge. You take every opportunity you can to attack me.... But have to say that recommending blood thinning cayenne for a possible aneurysm was really potentially deadly advice!!!...So you are denying that you jump on the bandwagon to attack me every chance you get. Should we pull up some of your posting history showing how you have done this over and over? Again, using information from my forum (cayenne), lies about my intent and character. I made nine posts in the LFD Forum 4-6 years ago and then decided to stop posting there.. He started posting about a year after I stopped posting there and now has 3 pages of posts spanning the last 3 years...and I've only restarted posting there for the last 10 months (and many of the posts were not directed at him in ANY way). I did not crawl out from under a bridge and I most certainly do not take every opportunity I can to attack him (with or without a 'bandwagon', on the Liver Flush Debate forum or otherwise). I most certainly do not give potentially deadly advice - I have solid empirical evidence of cayenne stopping internal bleeding (and the scientific evidence of how this happens is out there for anyone to find).
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http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1866658#i ...I have NEVER started any attacks. Sadly, the truth is that he has started MANY attacks. The evidence (found all over CZ, not just in this post) is very clear. Many of his attacks contain vicious, maligning & slanderous lies that have no place on CureZone. It's long past time for him to be stopped.