Re: Is it possible to stop degenerative disc disease?

Hi grz,

Do you use MSM  and or Glucosamine?

I am using the dead sea bath salts I mentioned in an earlier post. Must I also continue with the epsom salts baths?

I am also considering applying dead sea mud, what is your opinion of this?

Is a Brita water filter good enough?

I found a posting describing the ML Protocol at http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1244068

Can you add anything to this post even some explenations if possible?

Hi Vernal,

In Moreless' Forum, we raise our pH levels through Moreless' Protocol as outlined below. A single vitamin will never do this alone. High brix fruits and veggies are a big part of the protocol, but also the alkalizing baths and drinks make a huge difference in healing and raising your pH. Please take some time to read through the protocol and to read through past posts especially the R, RR, RRR, RN and the BSA post to help you gain some understanding.

Here is the Moreless protocol that Evanluck lovingly put together for everyone.

The basic protocol as outlined in this forum is as follows:

Stop all eating habits that promote excess acidity

This includes eating:
any refined sugars (sugar, high fructose corn syrup etc.)
any refined starches (white bread, white rice, anything made with white flour)
any artificial chemicals (preservatives, artificial sweeteners etc.)
any protein or grains 4-6 hours before you go to sleep

80% of your diet should consist of top-quality, locally grown, seasonal fruits and vegetables with an emphasis on green leafy vegetables (cabbage, broccoli, kale, cauliflower, non-iceberg lettuce, spinach etc.). You can purchase a refractometer and start testing the BRIX (amount of complexed carbohydrates) level of the foods that you purchase. This will allow you to begin to pick better quality produce.

20% of your diet can be whole grains and high quality protein sources like cold-water wild caught fish (i.e. Alaskan salmon or sardines), high quality eggs, non-homogenized dairy.

Do a series of enemas to clean out your digestive system. The one moreless recommends is water with a small amount of Apple Cider Vinegar.

Following the enemas take some probiotics. First thing in the morning, drink a glass of water. Then take the probiotics (one with a high billion count 8+ and with both Bifidus Bacterium and Acidophilus) along with a glass of skim milk. [edit added on 11-09-07]

Buy some PH strips and start testing your saliva at set times during the day (first thing in the morning and approximately an hour after each meal) to get an idea of the relative quality of your foods and how your body reacts to different kinds of foods.

Drink plenty of clean water slowly throughout the day.


Supplement your diet with mineral rich foods:
Alkalyzing Drink: the juice of 1/4-1/2 of a lemon, 1-6 or more (start out slow) Tablespoons of Pickling Lime Water (1 Tablespoon of Pickling Lime diluted into 1 Gallon of Distilled Water), 1-3 Tablespoons of Blackstrap Molasses, 1 Tablespoon of high quality, cold water kelp

Sip this drink slowly throughout the day. You can start out with one drink per day and scale up slowly to as many as your body reacts positively to.

Take a pinch of Epsom Salt with each Meal.

Accelerate with Akalyzing Baths:
Take a hot bath (as hot as you can stand it) with the following ingredients:
2 Pounds of Epsom Salts
1 Pound of Baking Soda
1-2 Quarts of Hydrogen Peroxide (edit by refreshed: 3% Hydrogen peroxide)

Soak in the bath for as long as you can stand it (start out with shorter period of time like 15 mins. and slowly work up to longer periods of time).

Finish up with a cold shower.

If you are very sick you may not be able to take the baths initially. If not then you can reduce the ingredients and do a foot soak with the same ingredients in the same proportion.


Learn to choose a positive outlook on life and positive thoughts. Find things everyday that you can be grateful for. Spend time in prayer and meditation. Refuse to worry about things that you are unable to control or are unwilling to take action to change.

This is the general protocol. Each person is different so you need to learn to listen to your body and make adjustments within these principles to find what works best for your body.

Ask questions where you are unclear. There is lots of experience and wisdom on this forum.


God Bless You and Guide You on Your Way to Better Health,



As far as how much ACV and epsom salt to use. I find personally that ACV seems to react stronger on me than lemon juice. I only use it if I'm out of lemons but I would say a tablespoon or less would be enough once you get the pickling lime.

We are told to start out with only a small pinch of epsom salt. If you have problems with constipation, then I would take a slightly larger pinch.

Once you start the drink, you will find that you may later want to experiment with different amounts of any of the ingredients. Stick with the basic protocol in the beginning until your body tells you what it needs.

In another post of yours (see link below) you describe how your receding gums are growing back. Was this from using the ml protocol alone or were there any other techniques used?

In fact were all the improvements due to the ml protocol?

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1358388

You mention your exercise schedule at the link above.

I do a lot of walking with out any problems, however other exercise like very light weights, thera bands and stretching eventually cause me pain or discomfort. I hope to do martial arts one day.

Is there any way to progress?

How does the Nourishing Traditions and the Weston Price Foundation approach fit in with the PH diet?

What PH level should I be aiming for?

Thanks,

Marvellous