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no ropes denr 21 y 2,679

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After a 2 week rest from my last 10 master cleanse I am on day 2 of another one. I have continued with the p& b shakes right through.I cannot seem to take more than 2 shakes a day without plugging up solid.I have tried the salt water in the am as well as the cider vinegar chasers but they don't seem to help. I have always been regular at least once a day and this concerns me and is uncomfortable.
I cannot get up to the 3 4 or 5 shakes that is recommended and as of yet have passed no ropes.
should I: be more patient?
try 1/2 a tbsp more frequently, instead of 1 tbsp
2x daily? I am hesitant to take a laxitive

Also has anyone tried pancreatin? will this help?
Thank you in advance for your response

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short bowel syndrome Deanna V 21 y 5,165

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I am a mother of a 2 month old baby boy who has short bowel syndrome. I am in search of others with this same problem. I have created several forums for people with this disorder in hopes that I may learn more. Also for people to be able to come and interact with eachother. Please visit the below links.

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  I am a mother of three kids. Two of them which have short boewl syndrome. one is 7 and one is 3 , both are girls. The 7 year old lost 75% of her small bowel and the 3 year old has 20% of her smal...
  
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  I am a mother of three kids. Two of them which have short boewl syndrome. one is 7 and one is 3 , both are girls.
  The 7 year old lost 75% of her small bowel and the 3 year old has 20% of her small bowel left. Does anyone else have two kids with short bowel syndrom????
  
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FINALLY!! jaybyrd 21 y 5,864

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I've been feeling stopped up for the last few days and layed off the B&P feeling that might be adding to the problem instead of helping. I'd recently added digestive enzymes to the mix and had noticed that what got passed seemed to be better digested. No movement at all yesterday which, for someone that's on the pot 2 or 3 times a day, is a bit disconcerting. Also feeling like the body was getting more toxic instead of less, eg: itching, fuzzy headedness, and some abdominal discomfort. The last weekend didn't help as I was on a location photoshoot (I'm a photoassitant / digital artist) both days. In the hubbub of things I didn't drink nearly as much water as usual and the crew was provided pizza for lunch. Tasted great but not the thing I needed in this cleaning up of my system. All day yesterday feeling "plugged up" so downed a quart of Sea Salt water when I got home. Still nothing at 9 so had a cup of smooth move tea and went to bed shortly. Major cramps this morning and passed two large plugs of mucoid plaque followed by everything else that I'd eaten in the last couple days a bit later. The plaque was all balled up tight but pulled apart fairly easily into the classic long strings with a chopstick.
What I take from this is:
1. Don't get discouraged if you seem to be going backward in this process at any time
2. Mucoid plaque might not slide out right away when released from it's original spot
3. Drink LOTS of water to keep things moving!
4. Better out than in.

What a load off my ..... mind!
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  Hi Jaybyrd, Congrats! Out of curiosity, how long have you doing the cleanse?How many b&p drinks do you drink a day? Hoping for the same, A
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  Congrats! Out of curiosity, how long have you doing the cleanse?How many b&p drinks do you drink a day?
  
  Hoping for the same,
  
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  - Hi Argyll I’d been doing the B&P with Caprol tw... jaybyrd 21 y 4,424
    
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    Hi Argyll I’d been doing the B&P with Caprol twice a day since mid-November following the protocall at WholeApproach.com until the 1st of February when I did an 8 day MC with B&P twice a day. At ...
    
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    Hi Argyll
    
    I'd been doing the B&P with Caprol twice a day since mid-November following the protocall at WholeApproach.com until the 1st of February when I did an 8 day Master-Cleanse with B&P twice a day. At the end of the Master-Cleanse I dropped the B&P to once a day and changed the caprol to Grapefruit-Seed-Extract as the anti-fungal ingredient. Recently I phased in enzymes and fresh ground flaxseed. I'd been getting a little plaque now and again for the last month but nothing like this morning. Think I'll try the Sea Salt water and smooth move tea this evening again to see if I can further clear stuff out. Will start phasing back in the psylium and then the bentonite. Pay attention to your body - it will tell you what it needs if you listen.
    
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    - Jay, Good to see your post. The last 2 weeks... jadegirl8 21 y 4,311
      
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      Jay, Good to see your post. The last 2 weeks have seen me depressed, weeping and ready to give up the quest. Yesterday, after feeling so plugged up I’ve felt almost nauseous, decided to take ...
      
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      Jay,
      
      Good to see your post.
      
      The last 2 weeks have seen me depressed, weeping and ready to give up the quest. Yesterday, after feeling so plugged up I've felt almost nauseous, decided to take the radical route, buying a Fleet enema. Considered calling my physician.
      
      Last night, even though I didn't want to, ate a litte dinner since despite the fullness, still get hungry and feel very dehydrated (in spite of the water intake)most of the time.
      Most of the time I'm sleepy--no matter how much rest I get--and feeling like I've been in a fight with 6 crazed maniacs, totally deplete of energy.
      
      After dinner last night had organic apple juice and warm water rest of evening. Went to bed with major pain in the usual spot--between navel and pubic bone. Did not do the enema, nor a B/P shake. Slept fitfully.
      
      This morning, still trying to finish a 50-page research paper due tomorrow, and feeling headachy, so took in again only the apple juice, some chicken broth, bilberry tea w/out Sugar and acidophilus capsules throughout morning.
      
      Happy to say there has been a small movement: somewhat ropey, w/what looked like a few parasites, smooth but not well-formed.
      
      However, the pain is gone, as well as that "about-to-burst" feeling. It's now 2PM and I still haven't eaten anything, nor done a shake today. Continue to hear "bowel sounds", which I take as positive. Also continuing w/nothing but liquids, and abdominal crunches. About to take a break from writing the paper and go for a walk.
      
      Know I still have a long way to go, but just wanted to let you know that your post was very encouraging. Guess it pays to stick with it.
      
      Cheers, my friend
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        Hi Wanda..I may have asked you this before, but I can’t remember now. Have you read Spock’s posts? He had a host of health issues, including low energy, and after liver flushing and coffee enemas...
        
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        Hi Wanda..I may have asked you this before, but I can't remember now.
        
        Have you read Spock's posts? He had a host of health issues, including low energy, and after Liver Flushing and coffee enemas he has never felt soooo good...in years! I am thinking that after some bowel cleansing you might want to do liver flushes...after all the liver is the 'general' of the body, as the Chinese say. The most important organ, we have to take care of it.
        
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        I have searched and searched for two of Spock's other posts. One telling how he has been feeling for the last ten or so years and another a very inspiring one! ack. Maybe Spock knows where they are.
        
        Anyway....glad to see you're sticking with it Jadegirl!
        
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        Hang in there! It seems as if you and I are are going through similar reactions to all this cleansing. I noticed that I was still hungry despite a feeling of fullness. Fitful sleeping with weird dreams. And there was a definite emotional component to the backstep - watching tv last night I found a couple tears on my face during one of those "Hallmark moments" during some show. Don't think it was in reaction to the show tho' - it was just the catalyst that my emotions needed to let loose. Also noticed myself getting irritable the last few days too. Feeling better today as the day goes on but not as well as a week ago. (Of course the gorgeous day we're having here in Seattle helps.)
        Maybe try a Seasalt water flush if you haven't already. I feel for you Wanda. I sure wouldn't want to be trying to put together a big research paper the way I've felt the last few days.Hope the walk helped
        Best of Luck
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      - Hang in there! It seems as if you and I are are go... jaybyrd 21 y 3,844
        
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        Hang in there! It seems as if you and I are are going through similar reactions to all this cleansing. I noticed that I was still hungry despite a feeling of fullness. Fitful sleeping with weird dre...
        
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        Hang in there! It seems as if you and I are are going through similar reactions to all this cleansing. I noticed that I was still hungry despite a feeling of fullness. Fitful sleeping with weird dreams. And there was a definite emotional component to the backstep - watching tv last night I found a couple tears on my face during one of those "Hallmark moments" during some show. Don't think it was in reaction to the show tho' - it was just the catalyst that my emotions needed to let loose. Also noticed myself getting irritable the last few days too. Feeling better today as the day goes on but not as well as a week ago. (Of course the gorgeous day we're having here in Seattle helps.)
        Maybe try a Seasalt water flush if you haven't already. I feel for you Wanda. I sure wouldn't want to be trying to put together a big research paper the way I've felt the last few days.Hope the walk helped
        Best of Luck
        Jay
        
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  Thanks for your post it is very encourageing as I am going to start the P&B again soon.
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- I've got one of those - should I stop the shakes? DesertRat 21 y 4,561
  
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  Jaybyrd- This was a timely topic for me, because I think I have similar displaced plaque that's still on its way out. I never passed any big ropes during my 3-week Master-Cleanse cleanse. When I started drinking apple juice to transition to a liver flush, I started getting some cramps down low along with some spells of mild nausea. I thought I was having trouble with the juice, but I've been eating normally now almost a week and it still happens once or twice a day.
  
  The last 2 or 3 days I've started to feel like I'm going to have a big movement. I can feel "something big" in there, but all that comes out is pencil-thin feces that I have to squeeze out. I never quite feel like I'm 100% done. I drank a cup of Senna tea and got bad cramps, but passed only that thin soft stuff.
  
  Is my stool so soft because I'm still taking Bentonite and psyllium? I've never done the shakes with food until now. I wonder if stopping that would firm up my stool, but then would that be good or bad? It might help push out the blockage, or I might end up in the hospital with a serious backup. (A worry because I'm uninsured...)
  
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B&P with a chaser? #161853 21 y 4,974

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I find it very difficult to mix and drink b&p sometimes. THis morning I had a tablespoonful of psyllium and a tablespooonfull of psyllium husks (together) followed by chugging an entire bottle of water. I find this much easier to swallow for some reason, and the psyllium doesn't get all caught in my teeth. I just want to make sure I'm not going to do more harm than good with this. Any suggestions?

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- you are mixing the P&B with water or juice, aren’t... The23rdMan 21 y 4,108
  
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  you are mixing the P&B with water or juice, aren’t you?
  you are mixing the P&B with water or juice, aren't you?
  
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    Not this morning. This morning I followed it immediately with water. Two glasses. I just found it much easier to swallow. Normally I mix it with water, but the psyllium gets stuck to the glass and i...
    Not this morning. This morning I followed it immediately with water. Two glasses. I just found it much easier to swallow. Normally I mix it with water, but the psyllium gets stuck to the glass and in my teeth.
    
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  If I understand your post correctly, you did not mix the p&b in water...right? Be very careful...the psyllium absorbs a tremendous amount of water quite rapidly and swells...could pose a danger of ...
  
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  If I understand your post correctly, you did not mix the p&b in water...right? Be very careful...the psyllium absorbs a tremendous amount of water quite rapidly and swells...could pose a danger of choking. Psyllium capsules are not as effective because they only cleanse from the point that they empty their contents...but I would recommend that you use the caps instead of taking the p&b neat!
  
  Frankly, I can't imagine that eating(?!) the p&b is an easier way of taking it...but to each his own...LOL!
  
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  - I really can’t undestand why I prefer it that way ... #161853 21 y 4,163
    
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    I really can’t undestand why I prefer it that way either! But I just swallowed it really quick, and then washed it down with tons of water, and voila. No taste, no texture. Thank you for the advice ...
    
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    I really can't undestand why I prefer it that way either! But I just swallowed it really quick, and then washed it down with tons of water, and voila. No taste, no texture. Thank you for the advice though. Maybe if I make a small juice glass of the b&p mixture with water, chug that, then chase with water it would be safer. Don't want to choke on psyllium husks!
    
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    - A little lemonaide?? Rinna 21 y 4,566
      
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      Hi,
      After doing my p/b with 6oz of water,2tbs fresh lemon juice,and 2tbs of maple syrup. I did have to still do a chaser of water because the stuff would be still in my throat and mouth and I couldn't take the texture of it. Still having tried it with oj, water, and lemonaide...the lemonaide was best tasting for me. The less water in it, the quicker I could gulp it down but I had to have some regular plain water or lemonaide after it. Ok that's all from here-hope that helps. Good luck!
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        The Frustrations of Colon Cleansing http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=153&i=847 Everything you need to know about Bentonite and Psyllium drinks http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f...
        
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        On the benefits of Bentonite:
        
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        Richard Anderson speaks about Mucoid Plaque:
        
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        Options that I know of for Bowel Cleansing:
        
        B&P's
        
        Holistic Horizons (no herbal laxatives) Read Zule's post:
        
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        Experience (no herbal laxatives) recommended by Tim O'Shea at The Doctor
        Within
        
        Dr. Schulze (with herbal laxatives - for people who are prone to
        constipation???)
        
        ...and I'll throw this one in, for good measure! We should all be aware of
        the fact that 90% of serotonin is synthesized in our gastrointestinal tract!
        (Thanks to Ptree for researching this!) Another reason to keep our intestines
        clean....to be happy!
        
        90% of Serotonin is synthesized in the Gastro-Intestinal Tract
        
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        And my boyfriend's funny '1974 Penny' story - It's true!!
        
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        That should do it!
        
        Tracey
        
        *oh and read the article, "The
        Journey to the Center of the Colon". It's on the link below...it's a must, I
        tell you! Also, the article on Allergies too, if you've got 'em* Also important
        to read: The Last Resort and the New West Diet, Allergies, Vitamins,
        Enzymes...oh, the list goes on!
        
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        B&p for colon cleanse rite? IF i wanna do the liver flush ... how long do i need to clean my colon before doing the liver flush? When i must stop doing the colon cleanse if i wanna do the liver flu...
        
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        B&p for Colon Cleanse rite? IF i wanna do the Liver Flush ... how long do i need to clean my colon before doing the liver flush? When i must stop doing the Colon Cleanse if i wanna do the liver flush? 1 days earlier than liver flush? after doing Liver Flush when i can do the Colon Cleanse again?
        
        Do i need taking probiotic during this cleansing? how about kidney cleanse? thanks
        
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    Hello PTree,
    Ive read that you know quite a bit about colon cleansing and I'd like to ask you a question please.
    I did my first colon cleansing with 4 liters of water and the juice of half a lemon. My container holds 7.5 liters but I could not get all of it into myself without it leaking. What am I doing wrong if anything? Does it take time to get to the point of getting all the fluid into the colon?
    Now for my second cleanse I would like to use 4 or 5 drops of Lugol with the water. How many cleanses will it take before I see some of the gunk in me come out? Any advice you can give me is appreciated. Thanks
    
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      I'd like to know if I need all of the herbs, probiotics etc...
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      I'm not sure if I properly used the forum the first time in allowing the forum readers to respond to my question. Hope it works this time.
      
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bentonite/psyllium:water intake andy 21 y 4,776

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Well I just started with my first pb shake and was wondering is it true that one has to consume 1/2 my bodies weight in water.Assuming I weigh 76 kilograms I must drink 38 litres of water.?

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  I forgot to mention that one litre of water weighs approx one kilogram. regards andrew
  I forgot to mention that one litre of water weighs approx one kilogram.
  
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  - LOL! Andy, if you did that you’d never have time f... The23rdman 21 y 4,143
    
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    LOL! Andy, if you did that you’d never have time for anything else! No, mate, you drink half your body weight in ounces. So if, like me, you weight 140lb you’d drink 70oz. Easy really ;-)
    LOL! Andy, if you did that you'd never have time for anything else! No, mate, you drink half your body weight in ounces. So if, like me, you weight 140lb you'd drink 70oz. Easy really ;-)
    
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      Thanks for clearing things up. I knew I couldn't drink half my body weight of water daily. It didn't make sense, so I drank lots of water anyway.
      
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  - Ha!! It’s half your body weight in OUNCES!! of wat... Tracey 21 y 3,918
    
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    Ha!! It’s half your body weight in OUNCES!! of water. That’ll be possible eh? Tracey
    Ha!! It's half your body weight in OUNCES!! of water.
    
    That'll be possible eh?
    
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  Just as I wrote the message I thought about it further and worked it out,but thanks to all for your prompt reply. regards andrew
  Just as I wrote the message I thought about it further and worked it out,but thanks to all for your prompt reply.
  
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Hi all!! I am finishing up a six month Colon Cleanse at the end of this month. My question is, what's next? I have a very sluggish bowel do to nerve damage from a fall so I need to keep things moving on through. I eat well but sometimes that isn't enough.
My cleanse was very very successful (lots of plaque, mucous, ect.),
so I would like to do all I can to keep up good colon health.

Thanks a million!!!

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  Would like to know what you did to get rid of the plaque and did it take six months of constant treatment? Thank you.
  
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    When I first began my colon cleansing I used a product called SBX which is a probiotic that helps to loosen the muciod plaque. I took it several times a day along with an AIM product called Fib...
    
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    When I first began my colon cleansing I used a product called SBX
    which is a probiotic that helps to loosen the muciod plaque.
    I took it several times a day along with an AIM product called
    Fiberblend. After a couple months of that I switched to P&B shakes
    and continued that for the remaining months. They both worked very well but I got tired of the Fiberblend flavor and the SBX was very expensive.
    
    I have done 5 liver/gallbladder flushes and have got out many stones and it helped my allergies alot. I completed a parasite cleanse in Nov.
    
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  Maybe the liver cleanse is next. I read in Dr. Clarks' book that the liver cleanse can be done until no more stones come out. I think the zapper can be used indefinately.
  
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I am finishing up my two part series of parasite cleansing and I plan on continuing with the bowel cleansing. As I continue on to do the liver cleanse, should I cease the bowel cleansing?

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  What liver cleanse do you mean? Liver flushes...or....? Stop doing the bowel cleanse if you’re planning on a liver flush. Otherwise...just keep cleansing! (if you’re feeling good....) T
  What liver cleanse do you mean? Liver flushes...or....?
  
  Stop doing the Bowel Cleanse if you're planning on a liver flush. Otherwise...just keep cleansing! (if you're feeling good....)
  
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I have been surfing this site for sometime now but as yet havent posted any messages but I think its time to do so.I have been unwell for years now experiencing headaches,extreme fatigue,tinnitus,slow heart rate,digestion problems which seems to radiate into my back between the shoulders,light headiness
and the list goes on.I have been to the regular local doctors but they say I am fine.So why do i feel shit house.Whilst surfing the net in a vane attempt to fix myself up I came across mucoid plaque and bowel cleanses.I read it and it made sense so I went to the local health shop to purchase a kit containing a liver, stomach,bowel and intestinal clear and changed our diet to exactly to match what they suggested.When I say we! I mean that my wife decided that since I was going to do it she also would do it.The brand that we undertook was an Australian brand (totally natural products) which also has a website.We have both finished our 15 day programme but apart from experiencing weight loss,loose stools,wind and feeling tired for the first three days no mucoid plaque came out.I dont feel any different either.I read alot about the pysillium Bentonite programme and am contemplating doing it.
Question I have is how much do I take and when?

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  Hi Andrew...from the sounds of it, I think you need to do the whole kit and kaboodle!! Have you read ’Spocks’ posts? Or ’Excelrye’’s posts? Click on ’recommended messages’ in the liver flush foru...
  
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  Hi Andrew...from the sounds of it, I think you need to do the whole kit and kaboodle!!
  
  Have you read 'Spocks' posts? Or 'Excelrye''s posts? Click on 'recommended messages' in the Liver Flush Forum , Bowel Cleanse Forum an fasting forum (and archives)....you'll get a lot of good information from those recommended posts. Find Spock's post for sure. He's on the Liver Flush Forum .
  
  I am thinking that you definitely need to start doing liver flushes. I have a good feeling about this....
  
  Of course a good Bowel Cleanse sounds in order too.
  
  Here are two great posts by PTree about the B&P and bowel cleansing in general, just in case you havent' read them. Also, read my post to ks below....
  
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  Sounds to me that you need to do the plain old b&p...maybe the Bowel Cleanse formula you used had too many irritating herbs in it...or maybe even laxative herbs. You need a little friction in there to scrub the plaque outta there!
  
  Good luck...I had super success with the b&p...getting out a mucoid plaque rope a foot and a half long...and also a 2footer! eeek yuk ick. I know!
  
  Hope to hear from you...read Spock's post and know that you can get healthy too! I'm so glad you found this site! (those doctors...grumble grumble....)
  
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    Thanks ever so much Tracey.I will do as you say and will keep you posted. regards andrew
    Thanks ever so much Tracey.I will do as you say and will keep you posted.
    
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I am very confused. There is so much information being thrown at me that I don't know what to do. I want to do a Bowel Cleanse before I do parasite cleanse (Dr. Clark's parasite Cleanse). I want to get rid of mucoid plaque and other stuff that might be clogging my system. What program do you guys suggest? I also want to incorporate Bentonite and Psyllium so everything is cleaned out. What brand of Bentonite and Psyllium do you guys suggest? Where can I get them? Should I use a hebal laxative? What brand? Can someone please help me develop a plan for a bowel cleanse.

Also, after I am done with a bowel cleanse, do you guys think I should do a parasite cleanse or a master cleanse (fasting) first?

I need help fast. Thank you.

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  Hi KS! If you are considering bentonite and psyllium (my favourite way to cleanse my bowels...but if you tend toward constipation you might want to use Holistic Horizons or Schulze’s) you’d better r...
  
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  Hi KS! If you are considering Bentonite and psyllium (my favourite way to cleanse my bowels...but if you tend toward constipation you might want to use Holistic Horizons or Schulze's) you'd better read these two posts...
  
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  I prefer 'Flora' Brand 'Indian Psyllium Husks' -whole husks (NOT seeds, though)(but probably any good brand will do - YerbaPrima?) And definitely get a hydrated, liquid bentonite.
  
  If you are itching to do a Master Cleanse Fast...then you could definitely combine the Bowel Cleanse AND The Master Cleanse (that's what I did)
  
  Read about the Master-Cleanse here: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/7244/master_cleanse.html
  
  Of course...you can always go for the 'Ultimate Cleanse' which combines all three things...lemonade fast, bowel cleanse, and parasite cleanse. Depending on your condition, this might be right for you. But if you are sensitive, you might want to take it more slowly...
  
  I hope I haven't confused you...but those are key posts to read - you'll probably be able to get an idea of what is right for you...
  
  Definitely get back to us with more questions...we're here to help!
  
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    Tracy, How would I combine the master cleanse, bowel cleanse, and parasite cleanse? Also, where do I get the products that you’ve mentioned? Any websites? Thanks.
    Tracy, How would I combine the master cleanse, bowel cleanse, and parasite cleanse? Also, where do I get the products that you've mentioned? Any websites? Thanks.
    
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      Hi KS!
      
      Ultimate Cleanse:
      
      Make the lemonade as outlined in the Master Cleanse. Drink up to 12 glasses a day. (I made my lemonade in a 1 litre glass wine bottle and drank 2 to 3 litres a day)
      
      Take the Bentonite and psyllium shakes 1 to 5 times a day.(3 to 5 is ideal) (start slowly...increase if your bowels feel good)
      
      Take a parasite Cleanser as per instructions (Paragone, Amish de-wormer, Clarkia ). Usually 3 times a day. You have to take it at least 1/2 an hour away from the Bentonite and psyllium shakes. The parasite cleanser must have the following ingredients in it: Wormwood , Black-Walnut hull & cloves.
      
      Some people take a herbal laxative tea at night, or every other night, just to help things move.
      
      Starting your morning with some warm water with parasite Drops...then half an hour later B&P drink...then a big bottle of warm water reeeally helps to get things moving...
      
      You can buy all this stuff at your local vitamin store...if you're out in the boonies just do some searching. Maybe other people know where you can buy it online....
      
      Hope that helps!
      
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      *is your constitution strong enough to handle some vigorous cleansing alll at once? Remember, that if it doesn't feel right, just cut back on something...listen to your body.
      
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        please could you give me the recipe for the Lemonade, MAster Cleanser? I have not been able to find the recipe and am looking forward to this diet. I am going to be in a wedding soon for my sister and really need to feel better and drop a few pounds.
        
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        I just finished the Ultimate Cleanse for 8 days mainly for parasite cleansing. I felt good during this cleanse - lighter, but a little slower and I started getting sleepy thoughout the day. I feel this may be due to lack of sufficient iron. I would like to go back on this cleanse because I don't think 8 days was enough to eliminate any parasites, but I'm afraid I may be depriving myself of nutrients for energy. Unless this sleepiness is coming from the release of toxins...do you have any advice?
        
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I'm still researching the various bowel cleanses. I've found some that look good but don't contain Bentonite (clay). Something
tells me I should use one that has the clay, but I wonder why these others don't. How necessary is the clay for a
succesful cleanse? Thanks!

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  Hi there...you can still get mucoid plaque and toxins out of your bowel without using bentonite clay. PTree used Holistic Horizons for a few months and got out lotsa plaque. I like using the plain b...
  
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  Hi there...you can still get mucoid plaque and toxins out of your bowel without using Bentonite clay. PTree used Holistic Horizons for a few months and got out lotsa plaque. I like using the plain Bentonite and psyllium drinks...but others like HH or Schulze's because they have added herbs in them.
  
  Have you read PTree's now famous posts on Bentonite and Psyllium & 'The frustrations of colon cleansing'? If not I'll post them for you!
  
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    Thanks for your reply. I’m getting closer to deciding on a product. Wish there weren’t so many to choose from! No, I haven’t read the famous posts. Where can I find them--or can you repost them? Th...
    Thanks for your reply. I'm getting closer to deciding on a product. Wish there weren't so many to choose from! No, I haven't read the famous posts. Where can I find them--or can you repost them? Thanks.
    
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      On the benefits of Bentonite: http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=219&i=772
      
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      Richard Anderson speaks about Mucoid Plaque: http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=5&i=1185
      
      Options that I know of for Bowel Cleansing:
      
      B&P's
      Holistic Horizons (no herbal laxatives) Read Zule's post: http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=219&i=748
      
      Experience (no herbal laxatives) recommended by Tim O'Shea at The Doctor Within
      Dr. Schulze (with herbal laxatives - for people who are prone to constipation???)
      
      ...and I'll throw this one in, for good measure! We should all be aware of the fact that 90% of serotonin is synthesized in our gastrointestinal tract! (Thanks to Ptree for researching this!) Another reason to keep our intestines clean....to be happy!
      
      90% of Serotonin is synthesized in the Gastro-Intestinal Tract http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=105&i=903
      
      And my boyfriend's funny '1974 Penny' story - It's true!! http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=105&i=921
      
      That should do it!
      
      Tracey
      
      *oh and read the article, "The Journey to the Center of the Colon". It's on the link below...it's a must, I tell you! Also, the article on Allergies too, if you've got 'em* Also important to read: The Last Resort and the New West Diet, Allergies, Vitamins, Enzymes...oh, the list goes on!
      http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.html?content=/articles/index.html
      
      The Doctor Within
      
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short bowel syndrome

I am a mother of three kids. Two of them which have short boewl syndrome. one is 7 and one is 3 , both are girls. The 7 year old lost 75% of her small bowel and the 3 year old has 20% of her smal...

FINALLY!!

Hi Jaybyrd, Congrats! Out of curiosity, how long have you doing the cleanse?How many b&p drinks do you drink a day? Hoping for the same, A

Hi Argyll I’d been doing the B&P with Caprol twice a day since mid-November following the protocall at WholeApproach.com until the 1st of February when I did an 8 day MC with B&P twice a day. At ...

Jay, Good to see your post. The last 2 weeks have seen me depressed, weeping and ready to give up the quest. Yesterday, after feeling so plugged up I’ve felt almost nauseous, decided to take ...

Hi Wanda..I may have asked you this before, but I can’t remember now. Have you read Spock’s posts? He had a host of health issues, including low energy, and after liver flushing and coffee enemas...

Hi Wanda

Hang in there! It seems as if you and I are are going through similar reactions to all this cleansing. I noticed that I was still hungry despite a feeling of fullness. Fitful sleeping with weird dre...

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I've got one of those - should I stop the shakes?

B&P with a chaser?

you are mixing the P&B with water or juice, aren’t you?

Not this morning. This morning I followed it immediately with water. Two glasses. I just found it much easier to swallow. Normally I mix it with water, but the psyllium gets stuck to the glass and i...

If I understand your post correctly, you did not mix the p&b in water...right? Be very careful...the psyllium absorbs a tremendous amount of water quite rapidly and swells...could pose a danger of ...

I really can’t undestand why I prefer it that way either! But I just swallowed it really quick, and then washed it down with tons of water, and voila. No taste, no texture. Thank you for the advice ...

A little lemonaide??

The Frustrations of Colon Cleansing http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=153&i=847 Everything you need to know about Bentonite and Psyllium drinks http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f...

B&p for colon cleanse rite? IF i wanna do the liver flush ... how long do i need to clean my colon before doing the liver flush? When i must stop doing the colon cleanse if i wanna do the liver flu...

How do I get started?

I’d like to know if I need all of the herbs, probiotics etc... in order to cleanse. Would not purified water properly administered give the desired effect of ridding the colon of impacted solids. P...

bentonite/psyllium:water intake

I forgot to mention that one litre of water weighs approx one kilogram. regards andrew

LOL! Andy, if you did that you’d never have time for anything else! No, mate, you drink half your body weight in ounces. So if, like me, you weight 140lb you’d drink 70oz. Easy really ;-)

Jinx!! n/p

Re: bentonite/psyllium:water intake

Ha!! It’s half your body weight in OUNCES!! of water. That’ll be possible eh? Tracey

Just as I wrote the message I thought about it further and worked it out,but thanks to all for your prompt reply. regards andrew

That’s what it’s like round here, fella. One big happy family;-)

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What did you do for six months cleanse?

When I first began my colon cleansing I used a product called SBX which is a probiotic that helps to loosen the muciod plaque. I took it several times a day along with an AIM product called Fib...

Re: What's next??

can I continue bowel cleanse?

What liver cleanse do you mean? Liver flushes...or....? Stop doing the bowel cleanse if you’re planning on a liver flush. Otherwise...just keep cleansing! (if you’re feeling good....) T

depressed

Hi Andrew...from the sounds of it, I think you need to do the whole kit and kaboodle!! Have you read ’Spocks’ posts? Or ’Excelrye’’s posts? Click on ’recommended messages’ in the liver flush foru...

Thanks ever so much Tracey.I will do as you say and will keep you posted. regards andrew

I NEED HELP. What is the best method for bowel cleanse???

Hi KS! If you are considering bentonite and psyllium (my favourite way to cleanse my bowels...but if you tend toward constipation you might want to use Holistic Horizons or Schulze’s) you’d better r...

Tracy, How would I combine the master cleanse, bowel cleanse, and parasite cleanse? Also, where do I get the products that you’ve mentioned? Any websites? Thanks.

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Necessity Of Clay

Hi there...you can still get mucoid plaque and toxins out of your bowel without using bentonite clay. PTree used Holistic Horizons for a few months and got out lotsa plaque. I like using the plain b...

Thanks for your reply. I’m getting closer to deciding on a product. Wish there weren’t so many to choose from! No, I haven’t read the famous posts. Where can I find them--or can you repost them? Th...

PTree's Famous Posts on Colon Cleansing and B&P's

Hi Tracey, Thank god for you! I love brains and integrity mixed together. Your sense of humour and kind heart comes through also. Bless you and thank you. Tauscha

You are a gift of knowledge & encouragememt from the MC experience. Lme’IP

Thank you, you two... It is my pleasure!!! T

Oooh! Thanks Tracey, that really helps. Sometimes I read things and think, ”Oh, great I won’t forget that” but then I do! (or at least have some questions. I’m going to go have a look.. T...