Detox reaction? 
surley
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Hi guys,
I started taking the Lugol solution eight days ago.I started with one drop and have worked up to three drops now.I'm also taking vit C,selenium, mag citrate and salt loading.On the whole,detox reactions haven't been too bad but I woke up yesterday with a swollen lower right eye-lid.I thought it was because the AC was blasting through the vent (one is next to my bed)but today I had to visit the DR to discuss my cholesterol results(baaaaaaaad)and he said it's a sty.Do you think it's a detox reaction?I used to suffer with sinus probs before discovering CZ so maybe the Iodine is kicking out gunk?The Dr prescribed ciprofloxacin 0.3%drops.I really don't want to take it as I don't do Antibiotics anymore.
Another thing,would Iodine help my inherited high cholesterol?
Thanks for any feedback.- Re: Detox reaction? trapper/kcmo
17 y
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This is a reply to # 901,216how old are you?
hanna just posted about cholesterol and how she found that the numbers the doctors use are bogus. this is congruent with just about everything else they use - information, procedures and chemicals.
iodine will of course help your cholesterol, not by necessarily changing any numbers but by making it more liquid and allowing it to be sloughed off by the liver easier. the standard action at curezone used to be the liver flush. now i am not so sure. it is effective in moving cholesterol stones out and you may want to try it. i have done seven of them with great benefit.
another thing that can be done is the coffee enema. this can also be found in the enema forum. it is designed to flush the liver as well.
medication is the very worse thing one can do for cholesterol. with Iodine supplementation, the problems associated with it seem to go away.
iodine is not a complete panacea. diet is the number one factor effecting your health. a raw diet is the best.- Re: Detox reaction? surley
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This is a reply to # 901,251
Hey Guys,
Thanks for your responses and great advices.Wow!I can't believe it,I went to bed and it's only nine in the morning and the forum has grown so fast that I had to really look for the responses!
Anyways,to Vulcanel,the lid is swollen and inside it's red with just a tiny lump on the lid.It's a lot better this morning cause I put some visine drops in last night and then lathered the whole area with castor oil.I'll also try the warm compresses...I'm sure this is detox symptoms as I don't usually get stys.
Trapper,I'm over fifty(but don't look a day past forty and vain about it too,he!he!he!)And I've done all the natural stuff...approximately forty LF's mostly Hulda's,bowel cleanses,one Coffee-Enema a wk,juicing a lot of stuff like kale,dandelion,radishes,ginger,cabbage..yeah,all the nasty tasting ones.I did one ten days Master-Cleanse plus I mostly eat raw,exercise regularly,rebound and take lots of omega rich foods like hemp oil,flax seed,almonds etc.I do liquid letchin too.I just did the castor oil packs for almost four months (three nights a wk,I read that it helps in lowering cholesterol)but it didn't shift mine.This wonderful dr told me if I don't take the meds I'll end up with a heart attack and my dear hubby is worried for me.I don't have any other risk factors,my other sibs also inherited the high chol and they are all doing fine but the docs have scared some into taking meds.
I was on the statins for over fifteen years(before I came to CZ)and I dumped them about one and a half yrs ago.I started experiencing muscle pains on crestor.Now I've got no pains and have never felt or looked better.I plan to start on Niacin but the dr said it causes liver damage,what do you think?
Thanks for listening and forgive the long post,just wanted to give the whole picture.AND THANKS FOR YOUR HELP TO EVERYONE HERE YOU GUYS ARE JUST GREAT.- Re: Detox reaction? San2006
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This is a reply to # 901,574Hi Surely:
I have read that "granulated lecithin" is way better than liquid lecithin. So give that a try.
Also try eating 1 raw egg yolk every daY. Mixed with juice or smoothie.
Another suggestion is to alkalize using Baking Soda.
Mix 2 tbsp of ACV + 1/2 tsp of Baking Soda, in a glass of water.Wait till CO2 fizzes out. then drink. ( U can use freshly squeezed lemon juice as well instead of ACV)
Consume this drink twice a day on an empty stomach. ( Before retiring to bed and first thing in morning). This will alkalise your body and increase your PH.
Ofcourse Magnesium is good. Add some Mag Citrate powder to your food.
You can beat your high cholestrol....- Re: Detox reaction? surley
17 y
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This is a reply to # 901,590
Hi San,
Thanks for your input,sorry the CO didn't seem to have helped me but I love using it for other things ,read my post in the CO forum.And maybe I didn't use it the right way.I do alkalise with the moreless drink minus the calcium hydroxide,that shit gave me quite a scare...lots of joint pains and water retention,I just blew up.I take the BSM with ACV and lemon juice with a pinch of baking soda plus ES in distilled water on a regular basis.I also juice quite a bit and that alkalises as well.
With the Iodine I'm taking all the other supps.and doing the sodium ascorbate by mixing the ascorbic acid with baking soda.I plan on adding niacin soon.As for the letchin ,some say the granules are better and others advocate the liquid so that gets quite confusing.I did the granules and now I'm on the liquid..we'll see.I do make a smoothie most mornings for breakfast using a raw egg yolk,plus flax seed and cinnamon but I only recently started that.
Thanks San and hope you're getting good results on the iodine.
Good health to all.
Surley.
- Baking Soda. San2006
17 y
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This is a reply to # 901,604Hi Surley:
You are doing the right thing by avoiding Ca(OH)2. Although, its alkalising, it can harm in long run, because its inorganic Calcium.
Please try to research more abt Baking Soda. Its very safe and cheap supplement, which draws poisons from the body. Instead of adding a pinch, u can safely take 1/2 tsp twice a day. When mixed with ACV or lemon juice, the sodium: potassium balance is not disturbed. So no fear that you are taking too much sodium. Most ppl are actually deficent in bi-carbonates, which is supplemented by taking BS.
Here is a study on BS, how it helps with cancer.
http://healthnews.benabraham.com/html/stop_cancer_with_baking_soda.html
- Surley... San2006
17 y
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This is a reply to # 901,604Hi Surley:
thats Okay that CO did not work for your cholestrol. I just reported that CO flush helped me with my chronic bloating. I am not a blind beleiver in Castor Oil and always look for alternatives.
I did the CO flush 6-7 times, and now am not doing them. Initially I thought, I shall do them on a monthly basis, but I have chaged my mind. I have realised that too much of "flushing" can be harmful for the body. So any kind of "flush" is only for emergencies, when other protocols are not working. I have changed my opinion for Liver Flushing as well. I dont do it and wont suggest anyone else to do it. Its barbaric to do a LF, IMHO. :). Even fasting for so many days on lemonade sounds like a silly idea to me.
Anyways, my bloating is lots better. Summer is here, and I enjoy my flat tummy & nice tops. (PS: I was not able to wear my fav tops becoz of this dreaded bloating which made me look pregy) .
I am doing Iodine, but am now on vacation mode. I am giving my body a 2-3 week break from Iodine. But I am continuing to do Selenium/ Vitamin C/some Mg.
These days I am learning about balancing PH and ORP (Oxidation Reduction Potential). Maintaining a high PH and low ORP is critical to good health. I was once anti-supplements, but now I do take supplements. But continue to eat healthy....
You can beat your high cholestrol,,,Keep the faith.
- Re: Surley... surley
17 y
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New lower prices!
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This is a reply to # 901,754
Thanks for your encouragements San.After doing all these things I sometimes feel quite downhearted that I'm not able to beat this monster naturally.But Hey,I feel great and would out-do a twenty-five year old anyday!So once my arteries are not clogged up(with clean living and iodine)I'll just ignore the scare tatics.But the biggest prob is to convince my family who are scared for me!
So what helped your tummy most to lose the bloatedness?Good for you and enjoy wearing all the fashionable and sexy stuff!!!
- Re: Surley... surley
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- Baking Soda. San2006
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- Re: Detox reaction? surley
17 y
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- Re: Detox reaction? San2006
17 y
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- Re: Detox reaction? surley
17 y
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- Re: Detox reaction? beenthere30
17 y
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This is a reply to # 901,216I started taking Lugol's on March 1 and did a 9 day Master Cleanse in April. I was up to 10 drops at that time and only took the Iodine the first 3 days of the cleanse. About 3 days after quitting the cleanse I ended up with a sty and and a very itchy rash on both arms from wrist to above my elbows. I did a salt flush which took care of the rash. I felt that both were some kind of detox. Good luck and hope you feel better soon.
- Re: Detox reaction? Newport
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MoreThis is a reply to # 901,216As for the eyes; yes the lids just like the liver form stones when there is a lack of iodine. Took several days of stuck together lids to work this out. Just keep them hydrated, Colloidal Silver works great if you are worried about infection.
As for cholesterol; use Niacin (inositol hexanicotinate if you can find it):
Cardiovascular benefits of niacin
http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/niacin.htm
- Re: Detox reaction? Sunny5000
17 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 901,216When i started Iodine 2 mths ago after about a week I got a really big sty on my lower lid. I'm prone to stys, get them every couple of months but this one was different, detox maybe. I just put warm compresses on it by standing over the bathroom sink and used a cotton ball while warm water runs in the sink and apply it to my eye. Do this for about 10 min. then use a cotton swab with baby shampoo and clean the eye lid. Should go away in a day or two. No Antibiotic this way. It's just a plugged follicle.
- Re: Detox reaction? #68716
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- Re:OT Cholesterol GrannyCat
17 y
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This is a reply to # 901,273Dr. Sinatra, a well respected heart doc said that cholesterol and heart disease have NO CONNECTION AT ALL! I believe it too. I think the cholesterol 'numbers' and labeling them 'bad' or 'good' is total hype to make money. I don't believe it's 'inherited' either. They play up in "inherited genes" thing too. MO MONEY HONEY! Fear is a GREAT MOTIVATOR!!!
I always say even IF genes loaded the gun, your lifestyle pulls the trigger!- Re:OT Cholesterol/Alkalinity hanna
17 y
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This is a reply to # 901,530In the beginning I got discharge from the right eye. Somewhere, probably lost in the crash, I read the bladder meridian goes to the corner of the right eye and the toxins come out there. I would guess, since it is a few weeks go, the discharge stopped may be after1-2 weeks.
As far as cholesterol read my 1st link inside this alkalinity post.
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=900481
Now I have been reading up on Niacin, the conclusion is as good as Lipitor, I have started that since I don't take prescription drugs.
Frey and Newport have written about it, just put their names in the search box and look for their posts, I remember Frey's post was titled Niacin. You can also type niacin instead.
I just read something interesting on Ask Barefoot's forum, he said that Hal Huggins did research how much cholesterol young men should have and he came to this number
220 plus your age. I thought this very interesting, because I have read before when you get older you should not have low cholesterol, you need it to fill in the little holes in your arteries.- Re:OT Cholesterol/Alkalinity surley
17 y
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This is a reply to # 901,554
Hey Hanna,
Good to see you're iodining now,how's that going for you?You know I've been following you eversince I discovered CZ,you're a good teacher Hanna and very helpful too.Thanks for the tips and like you I dumped the statins...the only meds I was on but the scare tatics get to me sometimes.I'm planning to add niacin too but I asked the dr and he said it damages the liver,I said and so does the statin.I did read that DRS should not put women on statins if they're over fifty or sixty(not sure)that it does more harm than good.I will read those links,by the way how does one send a link?I'm not too computer savvy with those things!
Thanks Hanna and good health to you.- Re:OT Cholesterol/Alkalinity hanna
17 y
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This is a reply to # 901,614I can't remember for sure but it might be that the no flush niacin is not good for the liver, but I am sure it will come up somewhere, besides you are right statins are bad too. In one story it said actually even a combo of statin and niacin is good they fill eachother in.
Sorry I don't have links, I have a book filled, but in the last 2 years I have not done it anymore I have to work on memory and do a lot of searches.
I was so busy moderating that I burnt myself out, so now we all the new moderators I have time to do my own thing again.
Just learned something new, only a few weeks ago, that I could find my own post by putting Hanna in the search box. I used to go to the bottom of the page and do it, but I had to keep clicking to go through the alphabet to get to my name.
When you link something you always have to start with http:// and then the site.
The URL for the post is on every message, check your own and it will say URL.
When you do a company just http://plus the rest. Always keep some space before and after the link, some people do . or () and then it does not work.
- Re:OT Cholesterol/Alkalinity hanna
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- Re:OT Cholesterol/Alkalinity surley
17 y
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- Re:OT Cholesterol surley
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This is a reply to # 901,530
Hi Mama,
you're quite right on that,Dr Uffe Ravnskov said the same thing in his book"The Cholesterol Myths".Do you have a link on this Dr Sinatra?
Thanks Mama.- Re:OT Cholesterol GrannyCat
17 y
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This is a reply to # 901,731
http://www.drsinatra.com
Although he still does sell cholesterol lowering products, I was watching him on a show called Your Health with Dr. Richard Becker and Dr. Sinatra said that in his honest opinion he felt there was no connection with cholesterol levels and heart disease.
BUT, perhaps he still believes cholesterol is worth watching for other reasons.
- Re:OT Cholesterol GrannyCat
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- Re:OT Cholesterol/Alkalinity hanna
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- Re:OT Cholesterol GrannyCat
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- Re: Detox reaction? San2006
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This is a reply to # 901,216Hi Surley:
I would suggest organic Non Genetically-Modified-Organisms granulated soy lecithin for cholestrol. Take it for a couple of months and see if it makes a difference. You can additionaly take 1 raw egg yolk in your smoothies every day. It has lots of lecithin and other important nutrients.
Keep a high level of anti-oxidants. Vitamin C( Sodium Ascorbate), Selenium and Mag Citrate.
And stop doing Liver Flushes, any sudden purges, enemas etc. These purges/flushes/enemas imbalace the electrolytes in our body. Just ensure, you eat healthy and have good bowel movements every single day.
good luck- Re: Detox reaction? GrannyCat
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This is a reply to # 901,547I'm wondering if you can just take lethicin and other things instead of kicking back that raw egg yolk??
- Re: Detox reaction? surley
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This is a reply to # 901,758
I guess you're concerned abt the bacterial content?There's been a lot of arguments for and against raw egg consumption and once the egg is fresh and organic I don't think one has to worry too much.- Re: Raw eggs? GrannyCat
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This is a reply to # 901,896Yes, indeed, and I have read all the arguments for and against. In fact, we have chickens that should be giving us eggs any time now! It's just difficult to get past the "raw eggs will make you sick" mantra that I've heard most of my life. I thought perhaps there was a second-best substitute I could do instead. Yeah, I'm a big CHICKEN!!! LOL
- Re: Raw eggs? San2006
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- Re: Raw eggs? GrannyCat
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This is a reply to # 901,916Well, I'm already taking 10 drops of Lugols, 5 in the morning and 5 in the evening. Perhaps I could put some drops in the raw egg mix before drinking it?? OR take some drops with water AFTER taking the raw egg mix?
- Re: Raw eggs? surley
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This is a reply to # 901,920
MamacatPatch,
I make my smoothie with one raw egg yolk,half cup of almond milk,some yogourt,half banana,cinnamon,nutmeg,a dash of vanilla and a heaping tablesp.of ground flax-seed.It is delicious and very energising.I don't even smell or taste the raw egg and for me the smell of raw egg is the worst thing.Give it a try and see.- Re: Raw eggs? GrannyCat
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This is a reply to # 902,168Sounds yummy! Actually the taste isn't the bad part. In fact, I eat my eggs over easy and the yoke is totally runny! Heh.
- Re: Raw eggs? marniewon
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This is a reply to # 902,173I think many of us here are old enough to remember licking the spoon/bowl after making cookies/cakes etc. I never got sick doing that (unless I ate too much! LOL) and I don't know anyone who did either - and we never used organic eggs, just the stuff from the grocery store.
Also, Mama et al: I'm not sure, but if you eat your eggs sunnyside up (we call them "dippy eggs" in my house :) ) would the yolk even be cooked enough to kill salmonella if it was infected? I like my eggs that way also :)
I'm sure the threat of salmonella is real in eggs, otherwise why would they have started telling everyone to never eat raw eggs? But these days you can get e.coli from spinach (supposed to be healthy!) and I think we take a risk every time we put anything into our mouths that we did not grow ourselves or known to be organic. Normal immune systems are supposed to be strong enough to kill off salmonella, e.coli, etc - unfortunately, not many people are that healthy these days! Another good push to get sufficient in iodine!
- Re: Raw eggs? GrannyCat
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This is a reply to # 902,190Yes I remember those days! But once they started scaring us half to death with the threat of salmonella they did a very good job of it!
But you are right. These days every time you put something in your mouth you take a chance! But if you're full of Iodine [so to speak] and other healthy things, you should be able to take care of whatever comes down the pike.
- Re: Raw eggs? GrannyCat
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- Re: Raw eggs? surley
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- Re: Raw eggs? San2006
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- surley do not take cipro please! sophie19
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This is a reply to # 901,216I am not sure if anyone else in here warned you about Ciprofloxacin and I do not have time to read all the posts today but please DO NOT take this Antibiotic for your eye. If you do decide that you MUST take an antibiotic, get your doc to describe something MUCH milder. Cipro is TOTALLY unnecessary and it can do some SERIOUS damage to your body. I don't have time to go into all the details but I have not been the same since I took that drug two years ago and after doing tons of research I found out VERY disturbing stuff about fluoroquinolone Antibiotics .
Please check out these links...
http://www.drugvictims.org/
http://www.westonaprice.org/healthissues/cipro.html
http://www.medicationsense.com/articles/july_sept_03/reactions_cipro_other.html
http://www.fqresearch.org/
read some posts on this health forum and you will NEVER touch that Antibiotic as long as you live! it is really devastating to read some of the stories.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/quinolones/
- Re: surley do not take cipro please! tygmusic
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This is a reply to # 902,436THANK GOD FOR CUREZONE and thank you for this message. I rarely take drugs but had to get wellfrom cough, cold etc so I didn't loseany work. went to my dr. and he precribed ciprofloxacin. and never felt WORSE. have taken 3 (yesterday mid day last night and this morning) and never felt so bad.
delerious -can't focus -chills -
lost MORE work!
thanks to this post and a few others I will discontinue and go back to oil of oregano, vit C etc.
I was improving
this made me worse.
thanks for the cleansing protocol, too.
- Re: surley do not take cipro please! tygmusic
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- Re: Detox reaction? trapper/kcmo
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