10 days after I posted on some facebook forums that Paraguay is a safe place to live, then chemtrails started to appear here. So to me this proves that it is a nefarious control program and they dont want anyone to think there is a place to escape to.   [End]
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 How I answer the negative arguments of chemtrails deniers:    1) Denier: “ only contrails exist“ . Answer: I am 61 years old and left USA to live in south america before chemtrailing started in 1997. Only in November 2018 did chemtrails start here in remote Paraguay where there is next to zero air traffic. Chemtrails are different than contrails. I have never witnessed a contrail not dissipate. Chemtrails gradually spread out into a wispy dispersion of their metallic powders. I am experienced now and can easily spot a chemtrail in any of its man ...
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I’m an American that lives in the capital city of Paraguay and I just want you all to know that they don’t spray chemtrails here. I’ve been here 4 years now and I have never seen a chemtrail. So don’t believe it when you here that the problem is completely global. If you want more info on what it’s like living here then just message me.   [End]
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Did The Simpsons Predict September 23rd 2017? Has the water disappered FOREVER OR JUST TEMPORARILY? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X04fMkRRD9U ...otherwise NOTHING unconventional is happening these days (as Rosanna Dana used to say....NEVER MIND!). HAARP Tampa Florida… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqgr2TOy-eQ The recent ”eclipse” was MEANINGLESS???? The saying is ”I’m from the U.S. government and I’m here to help you”.   [End]
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Has the water disappered FOREVER OR JUST TEMPORARILY? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X04fMkRRD9U ...otherwise NOTHING unconventional is happening these days (as Rosanna Dana used to say....NEVER MIND!).   [End]
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It is bunk. http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Chemtrails/Alerted_GIs_of_M_51_Anti_aircraft_Batter_LIFE.jpg   [End]
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The Solar Eclipse that just happened August 21 didn’t seem very ’standard’ if you will (it seemed to be ’structured’ and deliberate). This week was very active for solar FLARES, but also it has been claimed that hurricane Harvey is from Russia’s weather weapon. Harvey Russia’s weather weapon???... http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2375.htm Solar shakedown… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMAl5b5cXm0 It seems that all governments are afraid of conventional warfare because it is now NUCLEAR and the start of WW3. Chemtrail snow does not melt... https://www.youtube.c ...
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Hi all, I read this in an e-group I’m in. Anyone know what is causing this? ”I’m in Oregon and I’m reading Facebook posts from friends of mine who are shoveling snow right now in Washington and Oregon, and the snow is causing chemical burns on themselves and their kids and they’re wondering what in the world *this* is. It smells like plastic, not like snow. So they do a few tests on the ”snow” like letting it melt in the sink and it takes hours for it to melt and smells like plastic...they try burning it, and it burns and leaves a black residue...they put some ”snow” in a saucepan ...
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(NaturalNews) Whenever most people hear the terms ”chemtrails” and ”weather modification” they tend to roll their eyes and classify the person talking about those subjects as a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nut. Fewer people recognize the term ”geo-engineering,” but all three of these refer to the same thing: cloud-seeding to create weather patterns in order to effect a certain climate outcome for a region. As noted earlier in a report by Natural News , the concept isn’t new. In fact, it can be traced at least to a 1996 Air Force research paper , which identified ”weather” as a ... [Image Embedded Here]
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There are solutions if you can think outside the box, it has been around and tested for several years, but please I dont want to upset your comfort zone you can give it a try , see what it does for you, it is not hard or expensive just natural materials good intent would not hurt too and see where it leads you if you can get back the blue sky instead of whining what 99 per cent of the people do here find solutions [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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For the time being my last post just to shake you up a bit so you stop chasing your own tail ;)   I am just an individual I dont go along with agendas I just wont go along with agendas any agenda take care and maybe make good use of it it is for free, no it is not a ”hoax” it s just energy it works, at least give it a try before you rule it out by lack of kno ... [Image Embedded Here] [Video Embedded Here]
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  fake out from orgoniteplusinbox.com on Vimeo. The Sky Stealers from orgonitepluinbox.com on Vimeo. Amergin from orgoniteplusinbox.com on Vimeo. Plasterite English Version from orgoniteplusinbox.com on [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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Does it work ?   yes it does work end of message   now go back to sleep   Life Force Energy Interview Tony and Sean - Out of the bag - Irish radio from orgoniteplus@inbox.com on Vimeo.     [Image Embedded Here] [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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  The way is clear but the road is closed from orgoniteplus@inbox.com on Vimeo.               ps , the quantities above are just for if you make big buckets .... you should start small one liter of water and about one to one and a half kilo of plaster of Paris, mixed with natural salt and good sand thank you     Hello, just browsing through here and I see the usual rubbish the silly talk...could talk hours about topics but I wont Anyway, regarding the geo engineering aka chemtrails, I looked into solutions ... [Image Embedded Here] [Video Embedded Here]
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Total CIA propaganda BULLSHIT. There are nearly ZERO activist groups in existence that aren’t ran by the govt. Here’s a shining exception; www.AffirmativeActionAlliance.com   [End]
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This is propaganda and controlled opposition by the jews. Chemtrails are part of the global satanic/jewish depopulation program. If CZ has any ”real users” (not kike CIA trolls and shills) they will like and comment on this post! Read a 4 page newsletter I wrote on the subject and watch the short film ”The Chemtrails Questionnaire” here; http://goyimgazette.com/issue-114/   [End]
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Near total bs/ 1st QUESTION You must see chemtrails from up there? ,REPLY ”From time to time” hs they are non - stop spraying for at least 15 years All the weather problems are being created by chemtrails and then manipulated by harrp/ GLOBAL WARMING IS INDEED A MAN MADE EVENT - from geo engineering   [End]
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Please sign this petition. It is no ordinary petition. It is set up by ”cobra” who is in contact with our off-world allies. (They won’t actually help unless a strategic number of us ASK for help.) This definitely sounds strange, but think about it... it is no stranger than mysterious entities spraying garbage into our air all over the planet. How hard can it be to get 144,000 people to sign? Please sign and spread the word. (it is not allowing me to post a link.) look for ”thepetitionsite” and from there find ”plantetary liberation now”   [End]
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In regards to chemtrails, I recieved a pm  and he   sent me this one  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly-YMSnRozk  and it is really incrediable to view .   [End]
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I’m glad I checked here first to see what obviously FAKE reviews the company owners were posting up here! I was almost considering trying this stuff out. Obviously ”Dr Murray” (lie #1) and ”paulie ... [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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I’m glad I checked here first to see what obviously FAKE reviews the company owners were posting up here! I was almost considering trying this stuff out. Obviously ”Dr Murray” (lie #1) and ”paulie ... [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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I just saw what appeared to be a thomas school bus leaving behind a chemtrail. Last week I witnessed a 1983 dodge truck leaving one as well. I seemed to have developed a strange rash with multiple puss podules after these incidents.   [End]
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It’s ”Them” who are ordering spraying - Don’t ya know?! It’s either the CIA, Skull & Bones, FBI, Illuminati, Mafia, Israelis, Bill Gates, AARP, Muslims, military industrial complex, Elvis come back from the dead, or maybe even radical renegade Rosicrucians hell-bent on controlling the world and high on crack! Take your pick! If population control by high atmosphere aerosol was that easy, why ain’t there a nasal spray birth control product on the market?   [End]
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this site explains everything about chemtrails. They’re installing a BioAPI in everyone so you can be controlled like a damn robot. http://www.dataasylum.com   [End]
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MUST WATCH CHEMTRAIL VIDEOS: What In the World Are They Spraying? Aerosol Crimes Rosalind Peterson - The Chemtrail Cover-Up --- And much MORE HERE: NWO Survival Guide *recently updated with AWESOME artwork. ---     [End]
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http://planefinder.net/ you can see what identifiable planes are in your vicinity - the ones that are on registered flights that is!   [End]
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FAQ Researching Chemtrails for two years! Q How is it that hundreds of unmarked jets can be spraying secretly over the world! A Best example is Vietnam War. Air America was the coined phrase for our secret air campaigns over Laous, Cambodia. The planes were white and unmarked and get this, at its peak it was the 2nd largest airline in the world at that time. Q What color were these air america planes? A I stated, White, and unmarked, just like these tankers that spray, get your binoculars and see for yourself, then look at that famous picture of Saigon Embassy evacuati ...
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I guess for me it’s just letting my Congress people know that, there are Americans watching what they are doing. What comes to mind is when Bush was trying to get his illegal immigration bill thro ... [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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Hmm.. possibly. I did notice a certain dip in mood and that slight feeling of breathlessness after the 10mg (I have split in half for testing) of citralopam. I’ve been fasting today for utter test ... [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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just trying to wrap my brain around the whole chemtrail issue... Who is ordering these sprayings, and if its for population control. Then how do they know that it wont affect relatives? It appears the sprayings are very high in the air, wouldnt they basically be unable to predict exactly where it will come down?   [End]
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 I don’t know how many people have noticed but the BBC has recently started using a new term in their weather forecasts and are now calling ’cloudy’ skies ’white cloud.’ I have published an article about it at hubpages: http://hubpages.com/hub/White-Cloud-is-a-new-weather-forecast-term-that-will-interest-chemtrail-believers     [End]
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I’m from Sacramento, and they spray everyday all day in a quilt or plaid pattern.  Multiple planes are always in the sky and they aren’t trying to hide it anymore.  These are pix taken by my fiance who works next to an AFB [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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There has been very little spraying in California over the past few months. Then, about ten days ago, there were a few big events going on simultaniously in San Francisco area: the fleet week including the air show with Blue Angels, the Mill Valley Film Festival, Bluegrass festival, and so on. These shows attracted tens of thousands people from all over the world and the US. In the early morning hours of the bussiest days, such as Saturday, Oct.9 2010, one could see the clear blue sky above San Francisco and surrounding area completely covered with chemtrails. The spraying actuall ...
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I’ve written many senators, house representatives, leading envirnmental groups, etc. only to get no answer back or if so nothing substantial. Why? They have something to hide, if this be the case. No one will talk and I’ve read from a few sources, people who used to work loading the plains with these chemicals, that if they do speak up, there lives will be in danger. That is pretty scarey. What can you do? Educate as many people as possible. Write senators, the President, etc. We need some high profile people to stir up enough talk, and get the media involved or a rally protest in W ...
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The joke we have seen time and again is that the operators of this rig are in shirt sleeves, windows down, no masks, but I’m sure they have to have a pesticide applicator’s license. With all the stuff coming out of that truck, I think they should be asking us for permission, no just some state agency.   [End]
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I would like to check out who’s driving. That is horrible too.   [End]
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Here in Northeast Colorado, we get it once or twice a week, not by planes, but by the spray truck, all in the guise of mosquito kills. We have watched the bug truck sit and spray a gas station’s flying multitude (under the lights) for 4 to 5 minutes once, then move on. We should have taped the event, as we noticed no decrease in the flying swarm even one hour after the spray. Lots of asthma around here, inhalers in almost every family. We just sit and watch the carnage of humanity around here.   [End]
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In Los Angeles we have had a chem-free summer, first one in years. This past week it has finally been hot and today they sprayed us like bugs. I do my evening run at Runyon Canyon and passed a couple of very young asthmatics, teens early twenties, gasping in the first 50 feet and turning back, scary. I also heard someone say they couldn’t breathe. That was me in 2006. Now it doesn’t bother me (physically) at all. All the cleansing surely has helped me. I tried to talk to one of the girls but when your in that state and can’t breathe.... Well, i think it’s too late for a revolution. I s ...
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Sorry to hear, after I had the Mirena removed I went through panic attacks and months of anxiety issues. All other symptoms you read here I’ve had too. Hopefully you get it out soon and good luck ... [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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Terbium is a silvery-white rare earth metal that is malleable, ductile and soft enough to be cut with a knife. And It is relatively stable in air as compared to other lanthanides. The terbium(III) cation is brilliantly fluorescent, in a bright lemon-yellow color that is the result of a strong green emission line in combination with other lines in the orange and red. Terbium easily oxidizes, and is therefore used as element only for research purpose. And Terbium has a simple ferromagnetic ordering at temperatures below 219 K. When the temperature is above 219 K, it turns into an helical ant ...
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Here is a good YouTube video on chemtrails. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtlOXhSnNw8 Of course it is difficult to prove that elevated levels of aluminum, barium, etc. are coming from chemtrails, but if anyone has a better explanation I’m all ears. Snow levels of aluminum 61 times ABOVE the max allowed by the federal government!   [End]
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I had the same reaction as you when I visited LA several times back about the same time.  It was a foul brown mess!  However, that was mostly from trapped pollution that came from ground sources, not something that drifed down from above.  One thing I do not remember ever seeing on any of those visits was a sky filled with X’s and grid patterns.   [End]
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cisco, Persistant contrails (chemtrails) have been observed in several locals across the United States and other parts of the globe, it isn’t just in LA. I live in LA and I see these chemtrails almost daily (not many today however, thank goodness). The last month or so we have been heavily sprayed with something. What we need is proof that something is being released, not just normal water vapor or contrails. I’m going to get some standing water tested after I leave it out for a couple of weeks to see if there are elevated levels of aluminum or barium (two of the most commonly ...
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First time I flew into LAX in the mid 80s, there was a collective gasp as the plane crested the San Bernardino mountains and started the descent. People thought we were still over mountains when actually, it was a carpet of smog. One felt you could step out on the wing and just walk to the ocean. It was appalling. Brings me to my question. LA has this legacy of being totally horrible for pollution. Air traffic, automobile traffic. industry. Do you feel planes are purposely spraying the LA area? And do you think they are causing this mess by themselves? And, do you think th ...
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Correct! In my area of the world (Los Angeles) the jets spray chemtrails day AND night. They spray on clear days and cloudy days... when there are real clouds they spray above them. Today 4/2 it was a perfectly clear day until they started their spraying campaign... by noon the sun was almost totally blocked and you could see trails for hundreds of miles in every direction. I’m so angry about this! They are poisoning the air, soil, and water. WHO GIVES THEM PERMISSION TO DO THIS... WHO IS DOING THE SPRAYING... AND WHY ARE THEY DOING IT AT NIGHT? If I had a Sam missle battery it woul ...
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Chemtrails are being sprayed non stop, 24/7 over Los Angeles. I am horrified, angry, and very frustrated. WHO GIVES THESE PSYCHOPATHS THE RIGHT TO POISON EVERY LIVING THING, INCLUDING OUR FRAGINE ECOSYSTEMS WITH ALUMINUM, BARIUM, STRONTIUM, AND OTHER TOXIC METALS AND CHEMICALS? I don’t know what to do to try and stop this, but this must be stopped AT ALL COSTS.   [End]
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”The internet has created an epidemic of one person stating something regardless of whether it is fact or not, and the next 10 people quote it is true.” the internet didn’t create this phenom, the monopolized media apparatus did. What the internet did was allow the average joe to experience a bit of what mass media had already been doing for decades. ” I would be highly reticent about hanging my hat on ’politician as source material’.” Fair enough. However, to provide some balance and some legitimacy to your statement, would you please provide somne example that you are not retic ...
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The internet has created an epidemic of one person stating something regardless of whether it is fact or not, and the next 10 people quote it is true. It is too tiresome to cite. But recent history is replete with this stuff. Not saying that this particular congressman is guilty of this, and I agree Spuds, I would be highly reticent about hanging my hat on ’politician as source material’. This particular congressman is held in a bit more regard in some circles. Still, I’m with you... way too easy to cite sources that may be credible, or may be taut with speculation. By the w ...
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Perhaps the politician is a nut case himself, it has been known. Politicians also have their own agenda, or they are pushing the agenda of whatever party, or interest group, they belong to. IMO it is also strange that this seems to be the only mention of chemtrails by a politician, and this is being used to state a case for chemtrails existing. All this shows to me, (this is just my opinion), is that this particular politician believes that chemtrails exist. He could very well be correct in his belief, but as far as being credible, that is something I think needs more investigation. Th ...
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Climategate continues: Businessmen in lab coats. Its the typical theme - follow the money and you will find the answers.  http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1597535   [End]
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how or why is a politician trying to stop something that only exists in the minds of wack conspiracy nuts?   [End]
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The introduction of this bill seems to be because this particular politician believes that these things are happening and need to be stopped. (If I’m misunderstanding this please feel free to correct me). spud   [End]
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This is not just a matter of kook factor with chemtrails, its also a specimen anatomy of the lengths some people will go to in order to come up with a rationalization that dismisses something they would otherwise prefer to not be aware of. Case in point, mention HR2977 to naysayers and many of them will eventually reply that this situation should be dismissed because it was due to a wayward government staffer, not because it was due to an official government officer legitimizing the existence of chemtrails. HAHA!   [End]
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Thanks IC, it may take a while to get through all this, so I’ll post any thoughts after I go through the information. spud   [End]
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Government Involvement In Aerial Experimentation http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience Government and Aerial Spraying http://willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/Chemtrails_On_German_TV.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg8hcTQlH5I http://www.rense.com/general19/ex.htm Links of Interest http://preventdisease.com/home/tips99.shtml http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20000830164825 http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Stolen+skies:+the+chemtrail+mystery.+%28Jet+Trails+in+the+Sky+Used+to...-a084867081 http://www.rense.c ... [Audio Embedded Here]
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Sources, please. Of videos of tankers leaving massive streams, or credible researchers, or credible insiders. Please help us with these sources? tx   [End]
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Yet another question that I haven’t seen any believable answers too, as yet, thanks Cisco. I have seen photos of so called HAARP formation clouds as well, and surprise, surprise, they look remarkably like, well pretty much exactly like, what we have always called a mackeral sky, entirely natural, usually predictive of a coming thunder storm. Even the Australian Aboriginals had names for these cloud formations for 1000’s of years. Photos and videos can be manipulated very easy with the digital technology of today, which is why I tend to take these productions with a hefty handfull of ...
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Ok, since I’m musing about it, there is one other thing that gives me pause, about the reporting of Chemtrails. Why do many of these Chemtrail videos need a soundtrack? Fastest way for me to not take what is coming, too seriously, like a bad Hollywood movie, is to feel the need to add a soundtrack. It that just me? FWIW, here is a pic of Pikes Peak, Colorado. We can get high air traffic over this mountain. However, I post this photo because of what it is not. It is NOT a chemtrail. Had this been today, they would likely have had some rich, plume-y, predictable trails against ...
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IC, do you have a link to the analysis of the samples taken by these credible researchers? I’d be very interested in investigating this further. As for videos, it is all too easy to misinterpret videos, as well as it is all to easy to doctor them. I don’t trust videos on youtube, because there have been far too many hoaxes, or just plain misinterpreting the recordings. People put out videos of various things, and often have an agenda, sometimes this agenda is to put out misinformation, propaganda, or because the person uploading it wants a bit of fame, or is just plain loony. Sometimes ...
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It is easy to do these things on a large scale and there is info being broken to the public by insiders leaking it (i a safe way to them). There are credible researchers who have taken samples. There are videos of tankers leaving massive streams in the sky. There is also countel pro being don to confuse the issue. if you look through you will find it. As far as people spraying dear old mom or granny etc. These things are managed top down just like vaccines with propaganda being poured down as well. Many may think they are doing a service such as countering global warming while the ...
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”How could these good ol’ american boys and girls spray dear old granny, and what’s the pay off?” Brilliant Ginab4u. So concise, so pristine, it is poetry.   [End]
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 Nicely put CK, and you added some more reservations I had stuck in the back of my brain, but didn’t know it until you so nicely articulated them so everyone will understand..... How could these good ol’ american boys and girls spray dear old granny, and what’s the pay off?   [End]
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I wonder too. Living in a high density military area, of active duty, a slew of retirees from all branches, and knowing many in passing or as friends, and this includes a lot of pilots which is not unusual since the Air Force Academy is a few minutes away, NORAD, Petersen Field, in all of my engagements with so many, even when I bring this up, not one person has crossed over and even suggested some kind of conspiracy towards chemtrails. Maybe I am not looking or asking hard enough, but sooner or later I would think in all my acquaintances, over years, this would come out. Nary a whimper ...
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I do not see any chemtrails when I look up at the sky where I live, in fact, I rarely see a contrail, unless the weather conditions are right for them to form. Planes fly over my area all day, everyday, but these things are not observed. If I did see something that shouldn’t be there, or more to the point, what I think shouldn’t be there, I would investigate it. Which is exactly what I am doing, with the claims of chemtrails. ”and if they deny it’s existence, is that not enough?” Who are ”they”? How do you know that ”they” are not telling the truth, and for what ever reason, the ”ot ...
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There is so much information, most of it opinion, very little with any verifiable evidence, it will take some time to plow through it all. I keep coming up against the same wall of questions, (mine), who are ”they”, or ”them”, the ones that are supposed to be behind all these chemtrails? Why are ”they”, (if anyone can give a clear answer on the first question, the second is much easier to answer), spraying these substances over people?, if (and its a big if), that is actually what is happening. There is an attitude among a lot of people on the chemtrail websites, that when people th ...
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 I agree that there are paid kooks to confuse the truth on the airwaves, in all media. That makes it double hard to figure out!   [End]
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Gina, this was taken from your post of info from GLP. ”Ever watch House on Fox? G. House? He is constantly calling people m*o*o*ns or idiots. ” -------- Normally, I do not watch TV as I unplugged a little over 5 years ago. However, last week circumstances were such that I ended up seeing a few minutes of an episode for a program on fox that I otherwise was not familiar with .....this is one of the benefits from having been unplugged for so long. Anyway, the snippet of this show was, to me, profound because it was exploiting the official explanation for 911. It then took m ...
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I should have taken more time than just a quick Google search.  My bad.  However, doesn’t someone going to the trouble of using four computers in four locations to post such a hoax seem like a lot of trouble just to create a scam.  Unless it was a deliberate attempt to make all chemtrail believers seem like kooks . . . The truth is out there.  Just ask agent Skully.   [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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 He even has a thread for chemtrail enthusiasts to post their facts, and he debates, or explains, them in between a lot of cursing..... contrailscience.com/chemtrails-the-best-evidence/   [End]
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 If you go to the last page 9, he tells you he was making all this up. We have to really check all this out. That’s what I’m trying to say. There’s no need getting scared to the point of paranoia, and that’s what this kind of thing does to people. That just brings the global consciousness down to their level where they win. www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message462137/pg9 Re: I am a Chemtrail Pilot....ask me a question! Quote I am just an ordinary person. ...
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I will grant you that what you posted sounds very far out.  Perhaps the guy is a kook.  Then again, a lot of things I would have thought far out a couple of decades ago have been proven to be true.  And there is the other consideration:  when something is afoot, the opposition creates fifth columns and deliberate kooks so that the truth is painted as something fantastic.  Look at the Laibow/Stubblebine team that was inserted first in the UFO truth movement, then into the 911 truth movement and is now in the health freedom movement directing attention, energy and mo ...
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Maybe I’m like the natives on the island who couldn’t see the ships, but this is waaaaay tooooo far out for me to comprehend. Have any of these people come forward on youtube, video or TV? How do we know this guy isn’t a conspiracy theorist making this up to forward his cause, or a nut? www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message462137/pg1 Col. Wolchonok User ID: 325821 (OP)  United States 11/13/2007 9:49 AM "I won’t devulge the exact type but it is extremely sophisticated to the point that while flying using advanced holographic gear we can program the appearance ... [Image Embedded Here]
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I don’t doubt that weather modification (which is pretty scary in and of itself) may account for at least part of the reasons for chemtrails, but cloud seeding normally only happens in the presence of clouds that are already present and not on clear days such as are often the case when heavy grid pattern chemtrails are laid down.   [End]
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what more do you need then looking up in the sky??? If something is there that should not be there, and if they deny it’s existence, is that not enough?   [End]
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There is one important point where I don’t agree with you: ”The people who are doing this are SMART, obscenely RICH, and profoundly EVIL.” You got two out of three. Those people are anything but SMART. The only reason they are doing what they are doing is because they can’t see all the consequences of their actions.   [End]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding   [End]
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Did you miss my post? http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1597950#i People have come forward, including here in this thread: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1202980#i And there are other examples easily found, such as: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message462137/pg1 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001648.html When you get the time to look into chemtrails further, you might start with these posts I made about 20 months ago here in this forum: Chemtrails Timeline 2001-2004 by dquixote1217   Chemtrails T ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Maybe I misunderstood. It seemed to me that you were asking why people were not coming forward. I asked you for examples of what coming forward is. Now you say you don’t understand this other than saying it is obvious. If its so obvious, why do you say you don’t understand what it is?   [End]
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These are some good questions Oh4, there is the traditional view of people the come forward as being whistleblowers, people who alert others to what is happening in the companies or organisations that they work in, when they think there is something illegal or wrongful. Wiki has a good definition of what the common view of a whistleblower is, so I won’t bore everyone with detail they can easily find themselves if they’re interested. IMO, there are also those people, who while not necessarily being whistleblowers, are just curious as to why they are being asked or told to perform acti ...
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 I’m not sure I understand your question. It seems pretty obvious to me what coming forward is. There were kids raised in illuminati homes that came forward, x-cult members, x-government assassins, x-CDC doctors, x-_____s. You know what I’m talking about, don’t you? They have many derogatory names for them. As Spud said, there has to be 1,000’s of people involved in a conspiracy that large, or as large as they’re saying it is anyway. All they’d have to do is report it to the local news, write a blog, post on CZ or write a book. I’m not sure how all the whistleblowers and X’s sta ...
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” If there were people ________ for dozens of years, I think there’d be some with consciences who’d come forward by now.” Would you please provide an example of how you believe coming forward works? It doesn’t have to be anything fancy, but this sentiment frequently shows up as being quite common in public opinion and not just for the question of conspiracy at hand in this thread ”spraying” but for pretty much any conspiracy out there that makes it into the public consciousness. This is why I frame the question using a blank ______. So, as far as you believe, what does it look l ...
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 " Even if this was a ’need to know’ basis, where people only knew part of the story, this would still mean there would be thousands of people who know what is going on, and there is no way I would believe that all these people could be silenced for years and years." Yes, this is the main reason I’m not worrying about it, or researching so much. All these so called "facts" can be fixed to fit agendas on both sides.   [End]
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yep Gina, I too, find I’m a little pressed for time, and wish I had more free time to look into these things more thoroughly. I’m interested, also, in who exactly people think is behind this spraying, and why people think the government or whoever they think is behind this spraying, is doing this. I’ve only found fairly nebulous answers to this question, like population control, testing of chemicals, biological agents or warfare systems. None of these answers have any consistant evidence to support them. But I will keep an open mind on this matter, until the evidence gives a cle ...
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”If there were people ”spraying” us with toxins for dozens of years, I think there’d be some with consciences who’d come forward by now. Have you found any?” Gina, this is a really good point, I’d also be very interested in the answer to this, because with all the research I’ve been doing I haven’t come across a single mention of any pilots (the guys flying the planes while all this spraying is supposed to be going on). And as you say, if this has been happening for all these years, why haven’t at least one or two of these people come forward. I don’t buy the idea that the government/wh ...
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 Sure Spud. I’m on the fence with this one too. It’s hard to find time to research everything I’d like to. I’d sure appreciate hearing whatever you discover. I’m tired of jumping on all the conspiracy bandwagons. I need more evidence too.   [End]
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I’ve read that the contrails stay in the sky much longer when it’s humid, and it’s also true that there are a lot more planes than there used to be flying in all directions.  If there were people "spraying" us with toxins for dozens of years, I think there’d be some with consciences who’d come forward by now. Have you found any? I’m still researching this subject, but it’s on the bottom of my list right now. Thanks for all your research.   [End]
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Its been my experience, that in the last 10 years, the exact opposite of this, is what I’m observing. People are more likely to believe an unproven Conspiracy theory, with little or no evidence, than a scientific theory with much supporting evidence. What you find in people such as the CureZone audience, especially in the debate forums, and what I have found out in amongst the great unwash are worlds apart.  People here tend to be much more skeptical, due no doubt to the medical conspiracy and propaganda they have witnessed which tells us that unnatural drugs are superior to nat ...
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Thanks DQ, I have read most of the curezone posts on this subject, and will have a look at the other sites you have posted. Its interesting that you say people will more likely believe what a government says, than believe in a government conspiracy. Its been my experience, that in the last 10 years, the exact opposite of this, is what I’m observing. People are more likely to believe an unproven conspiracy theory, with little or no evidence, than a scientific theory with much supporting evidence, merely because of the fact that a scientist has proposed the theory. There are many youtube ...
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I agree that too many people are prone to jump into just about any conspiracy theory.  Sadly, I think a much greater number of people have been misled into believing that simply calling something a conspiracy is sufficient to disprove it. The fact is, our country, as did virtually every country and form of government and most of history itself, are all the result of conspiracies. The thing is we don’t want to believe that our government lies to us and thus has been the case for a very long time.  All the government has to do and all that those who really control our governmen ...
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I’m not convinced on the theory of chemtrails, I think there needs to be much more examination of the evidence. I personally believe that people are all to quick to jump to a conspiracy conclusion. In all the years that this has supposedly been happening, I would think there would be overwhelming evidence of chemtrails being sprayed around, and there is not. When I start seeing words like sheeple, government conspiracy, population control, secret government business, etc, I find this just as suspicious as the words used by government spin doctors to cover up what they are doing. DQ, ...
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I think we can all decipher the reason why she labeled this as ”sensitive”. These things immediately induced a barage of nasal discharge when I stepped outside the house yesterday. It was like nothing I had ever experienced. I don’t even suffer from nasal allergies! Something is definately wrong with the environmental conditions and justice must be served!   [End]
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As many of the commenters stated beneath the photos at that link, the photos did nothing to explain away chemtrails, which are pretty much indisputable when you consider that the government has admitted them, they have been widely reported and the material they have spewed out has been collected and tested. Contrails dissipate and only rarely spread out and linger (and when they do, they do not linger long and create a very thin hazy layer).  Contrails are not sprayed in inexplicable X-patterns and grids.  Chemtrails spread into thick layers and can linger for hours.  Ch ...
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