I don’t think I want to put 5-10ml of CS in this little cup to be nebulized. That seems to be a bit much. It’s my first time so I used only one drop and filled the nebulizer’s cup with distilled water to the 10ml level mark according to instructions. I can feel that one drop of CS working after one inhale so I’m glad I didn’t go overboard with a 5-10ml dose. No telling what I would be feeling now. My policy is to always start tiny and titrate up. Yeah, I just took my third inhale and my body is saying ”that’s enough until another day.” lol I can feel it in my head now. That total ...
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hi, a lot of great information, i have watched so many videos and it gets very confusing after a while. I would like to know if you know what reducing agent to use to turn the IS into CS? thanks, shelly   [End]
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The time I’ve been using and making silver, searching the web and reading posts, reading reviews of different silver products. I’ve come to my own conclusion, and I believe if you use silver properly and don’t over do it, and the silver is clear and made and handled properly, you will never get argyria. Personally I would never take any silver internally that has any color to it, it should be crystal clear. Though one thing I have noticed is even the best purchased ionic silver and properly home made ionic silver, after a time, you do see a few silver specks on the bottom of the jar, I sim ...
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Not entirely accurate when it comes to color and absorption. Depending on silver concentration and particle size, ionic silver can be yellow in color. Colloidal silver is dark yellowish, but more accurately described as tea colored. The vast majority of silver is eliminated from the body, not absorbed and stuck in cells. Over 95% is eliminated within a day or two and over 98% within a week. Paul Karason improperly made mostly ionic silver using tap water and then added salt to it and consumed over a quart a day for months and months on end. He also applied his mix topically to his fa ...
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Your two cents worth is absolutely fine, but I believe you miss the point. One should not trot out just any information, it must be relevant to the topic of discussion and not one of those come close to the topic. Case by case... 1. MSP 2. Citrate 3. Stabilised compound, and utter bullshit blurb 4. Nitrate 5. Silver salt 6. Industry affected 7. ”An individual, after using home made brew”? C’mon, give me a break with this one? ” Argyria caused by properly made isolated silver”...As for this one, AC is not DC, (output 12VAC) therefore enough said already. And the last one ...
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Argyria Case Reports Argyria Cases Caused by the Use of Mild Silver Protein: 10 We are aware of seven recent ( within the last four years ) cases of argyria caused by the use of Mild Silver Protein. Six of these reported cases were reportedly the result of over-use of this widely promoted silver compound. Five out of these six cases were insignificant: A blue-greying of the fingernails. Whenever there is a greying of the fingernails, cessation of product use results ( from all of the information we have at our disposal ) in no permanent argyria. The seventh case was argyria ...
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It’s very telling that the argyria hypers can only point to three cases: Rosemary Jacobs, Stan Jones, and Paul Karason, none of whom actually used properly made, electrically isolated silver. Rosemary used some kind of concentrated silver salt nose drops, and the other two drank large quantities of improperly made homebrew CS, using tap water or added salt. Properly made, with .999+ silver and pure, steam distilled water only, it will only contain a maximum of around 20 PPM silver. At that concentration, argyria is still possible, but it would require drinking large quantities (12+ ounces ...
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I’m well and truly over both the aforementioned cases, and have been for quite some time. Neither one deserves any consideration whatsoever in any discussion forthwith as neither one consumed, applied, snorted, or even bathed in the accepted product most produce in their home today using basic principals of production. People should trash all information they find regarding both Jacobs and Karenson, they have no place among those who know how to produce this stuff properly today. People need not be, quote, ’hyper sensative to all Argyria related discussions’ end quote, as anybody wh ...
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In fact, I've decided to prepare some callegen samples to see if I can't replicate the condition and/or reverse it via the chemical method or decomposition.   Yes, you can try if you have a research infrastructure available. I can suggest to use lab mouses, giving to them large dosis of colloidal silver, colloidal silver + silver oxide and so on. After a period of time you can evaluate the weight of silver given versus   [End]
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Rosemary Jacobs is one of the better known cases. And while there’s no denying that the treatments helped, though I’d also point out that these were very destructive in nature(see: skin dermabrasion ). However, I’m of the impression that this isn’t likely the only option. In fact, I’ve decided to prepare some callegen samples to see if I can’t replicate the condition and/or reverse it via the chemical method or decomposition. That being said, I think you’ll find many people on Curezone are hyper sensitive to all Argyria related discussions. Though I personally never believed this is ...
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No point in discussing or even mentioning her name. You need to find out what it was she was taking, and how it was taken. I’ll save you the trouble, she was snorting medicinally prescribed silver nitrate via nasal spray over a long period of time, since she was 11 years old apparently, that’s NOT what we make and use. The process of production by electrolysis is only a relatively recent process made available to the general public, prior it was powdered silver being used - apples and oranges scenario. You can now trash anything to do with her. I’m surprised anyone would still b ...
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One of the most famous cases of argyria is Rosemary Jacobs. She was "cured" after a treatment the "delaminates" the skin (os something like this)   Before the treatment:   After the treatment against argyria: [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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The writer of this article(as with many others) is oblivious to the biological chemistry associated with the ingestion of colloidal silver solutions. ie, in cases such as these, I would simply ask how it is that people have contracted or developed Argyria as a result of exposure to elemental silver. IOW. in the years that have passed, there were numerous cases of localized and systematic reaction as a result of exposure of elemental silver. Be it, through ingestion, physical exposure and inhalation. All of which, were documented to contribute to the condition. And while this in itself ...
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Is argyria the result of the IONIC colloidal silver? According this article, yes. Source: http://blog.cgcsforum.com/?p=275     About Argyria Posted on January 13, 2014 by Kephra Reposted from the   [End]
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Hi, I watched your video. Is a different technique than the golden type. In your page you claim that this production method do not lead to argyria. What is the argyria cause in your understanding?   [End]
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Dear all, I bought the voltage/current control board (ebay item number "181340066014"). The board has good construction and easy to config. Today I used it for the first time to produce colloidal silver using a 24 volts 500 mA as power source (board input). I set the board to output to 24 volts and 5 mA. The things go well in the beginning, but according the CS production progress, the voltage goes down and down. Removing the rods from the solution the output voltage goes back to 24 volts; reintroducing, the voltage goes down again. The higher is the ...
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I did a better video. If you understand that anything and everything can be improved then check out my video at youtube dot com/watch?v=_TlP9q6TnY4&feature=youtu.be and then the written explanation at joecellwaterscience dot com/silverjoe_cell_11.html   [End]
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First, you should check your facts. The statement I made is correct according to the pH meter manufacturers. Since I cannot post links to the published reference, you will have to look for yourself. However, there a cheap indicator solutions which do read correctly, and Hydrion pH paper is also accurate in silver solutions. To measure the pH of a solution containing silver ions requires a calomel electrode, which is based on mercury. Second, AgOH is unstable, and breaks down to Ag2O, depleting the extra OH ions. 2AgOH - Ag2O + H20. Silver does not increase the pH, and that is eas ...
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Just have a good multimeter with a microAmp to milliAmp range or just get a good digital(or analog)Amp meter with a good set of ranges to know what current is going through the silve wire(or coin/bar)   [End]
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I have several CLD’s(Current Limiting Diodes) and several adjustable current output circuits. One uses 2 transistors and another uses a chip-One uses 3VDC input boosted to 36VDC at an adjustable current of 100-microAmps to 5-milliAmps output. The circuits and diodes cost under $30.00 to buy and build.   [End]
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Sorry but this new age philosophy is a counterfeit to the coming reign of Christ. This spiritual evolution being taught is a counterfeit to being born again and receiving the Holy Spirit, not the Christ Consciousness. Many people are deceived as I was, and are going to see the emergence of a one world government, financial system, religion and a glorious savior leader as the new age. The powers that be will cause massive warfare, famines, and economic collapse so we will be desperate for a savior. But the new order/age relief won’t stay pretty for long. I was into new age occult prac ...
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Thanks for the tips. The discussion we are having here, with the opinion of many people, has been very useful to improve our practices, methods and knowledge. My intention is buy or assemble a control board that can be used to multipurposes. Ideally it must to be able to produce colloidal silver and be suitable to fight pathogens using micro-electricity (similar to Sota Silver Pulser ) and perform bio tuning (similar to Sota Bio Tuner ). I am looking the specification and information regarding the Spooky2 device, that seems to be able to produce colloidal silver and work ...
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This may promote a healthy exchange of information. I can find plenty of articles in the public domain stating ’CS’, ’CS preparations’, ’CS compounds’ etc etc causing Argyria but am unable to find anything relating to ’CS/IS’? Perhaps you could point me in that direction? Colloidal silver from my research is metallic particles {and I’m not going into pedantics with what constitutes a particle} which would in all likelihood result from the HVAC process as used by commercial manufacturers, hence ’CS’ in this instance would consist of mostly particles, as is boasted about by all and su ...
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From a University Study, the oxidation of CS/IS in the stomach is what causes argyria. So the amount of selenium avaiable to get into the skin cells with the silver and the total intake of silver. Everyone has there amount that will cross the skin and with the sun to turn the silver back into elemental silver and then locked in the skin is up to individual tolerances.   [End]
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”...the perfect solution is where one is doing everything in his or her power to make as high a quality solution as possible.” Now you’re talking my language, THIS is the definition of the ’perfect’ solution I was looking for. We use the generally accepted machine setups and incorporate all the knowledge we have gained from appropriate research of how this stuff should be produced, and then we apply all that information to what we produce in the home environment. PK knew he was doing things wrong, but he allowed his health issues to rule instead of his head, he knew better as he had ...
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You raise a very interesting question indeed. And in my own case, I’d have to say that the perfect solution is where one is doing everything in his or her power to make as high a quality solution as possible. Which I suppose works out to be a ”seventh day scenario” for all you creationists out there :p Nevertheless, I’d say that is likely my best answer. Aside from that there’s also the underlying motive which I think play’s a major role in our own commitment toward the perfection solution. ie, when I first started my journey with colloidal silver, I came across the infamous ...
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That is indeed a nice looking voltage and current controller. Have you considered using a low cost LED PSU to accompany it instead? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/10W-LED-High-Power-36V-9-series-1-in-parallel-Driver-P... Or if you’re not interesting in PCB mounting, then perhaps something like this: Waterproof 1*10W 300mA LED Lamp Power Supply Light Driver DC18-36V AC 85 265V... NB. It looks the LCD display resolution on that current controller will be limited to whole no’s at the mAh level. May or may not be an issue, though I though I’d mention it just the same. ...
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Thanks for the tip. I am really planning to invest in a control board with high capabilities because I will use it for other purposes too.   [End]
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Get a CLD(Current Limiting Diode) you can get them in various currents from 400-microAmps to 10-milliAmps. You can put in several and have a swiych to choose what current level you wish. This is a very simple current control, you can build a variable one or like a one of mine takes 3 VDC to 36 VDC at 1.5milliAmps. With this one I can use AA/C/D for the power source-like when I am out camping.   [End]
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Thanks for your input. I am happy with the result of my current approach, but I have interest in improve it, especially reduce the oxidation, improving the CS quality and reducing the silver consumption. I had a look at ebay for voltage current control board. Seems that this one may be good, as it control voltage and current: www . ebay . com/itm/181340066014?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (remove the blank spaces in the link) Any comment/suggestion regarding this control board? I am a bit afraid because it steps down the voltage. My power unit d ...
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The final thing is that the CS/IS we produce works! And that is the end product. A CS/IS that can be used on cuts, burns and other uses. Every one that I have given the silver to has never returned the bottle. I ask why and they respond I might need it again!   [End]
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Hi there Esstee, no offence taken matey, the questions you pose are the very same questions I don’t believe have answers, that was what I was trying to explain, i.e. everyone who produces this stuff in the home will produce the same thing, i.e. silver ions and silver ion clusters {particles} dispersed in a liquid, the only variant will be basically ion/particle ratio, size of particles, and any other variants which may apply of a chemistry nature, there are far too many outside influences for the home brewer to even consider a ’perfect’ solution is something to aim for, and as I said, who ...
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Hi ino, I can see where someone would share such a view. And don’t get me wrong, I’m in no way suggesting that you should not be entitled to your position on matters. I mean, in most every case of colloidal silver production. I could see where someone might conclude such information as overkill against the notion that good needn’t be better if it gets the job well done. However, under the terms of reflection, I’d like to offer the following questions for your consideration: Can we really say this applies to everyone? Are there other possibilities beyond that of striving for perfect ...
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Particle Science says the universe is made up of tiny solid particles of ”matter”. With this science you make colloidal silver and Chernobyl’s and f***YouShimas. Tesla said ”everything is energy, frequency and vibration” With his science he nearly outsmarted Westinghouse and JP Morgan and gave us ”free energy”. At joecellwaterscience we have taken Tesla’s ”Field Science” and applied it to many of mans endeavors (so far like 50 prototypes)of which ”colloidal” silver is but one. Everything you know about energy and the composition of ’matter’ is wrong according to Tesla. So, eve ...
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The thing is, everyone tries to complicate a perfectly simple process. Is there anyone who knows what constitutes a ’perfect’ EIS solution? I doubt that. People continue to try this and try that, but for what real purpose do they do that? What do they hope to achieve? Everyone will produce something a little different in composition to everyone else, dependant on many and varied factors, but all will contain the same thing, silver ions and silver particles. This is not a ’science’, it’s an art when producing it in the home. Everyone satisfies there own criteria and interpretation ...
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Hi sukhoi50, I’m very happy to see you continue to participate in this thread. I was genuinely concerned that my very long post would come across negatively as a result of the amount of information in it. And so I want to apologize for that. As for the video and the method, I want to add, that despite the seemingly large list of questions and/or concerns, that I truly believe you are well on your way to making high quality colloidal silver solution. And so to help you get there, here are some ideas that may prove useful: CURRENT CONTROL: Current regulator diodes. You can buy 5x ...
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Now that we enter the Aquarian Age of Enlightenment the TRUE science of old can now be brought forth again without fear of persecution. Unfortunately, the new religious priests (scientists) have replaced the old Priests and healing based upon ”Field Science” will struggle to be recognized from the poisonous ”particle science” that pollutes it way into the 21st Century. The ONLY Silver maker you will ever need again can be found at joecellwaterscience com/ silverjoe_cell_11.html   [End]
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I am sure you guys understood that the video has as purpose produce colloidal silver in a cheap way. Instead to be destructive, try to be constructive: Using which CHEAP method you are doing the control of the current? What is the current and voltage you found as ideal to avoid the oxidization? The distance between the silver wires has influence? What more do you suggest to improve the method shown in the video? Sukhoi   [End]
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Way over current on the silver electrodes with lots of wasted silver, needs the current control! Thanks for the link!   [End]
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Where that video? The link did not work.   [End]
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I use distilled water and a current controlled circuit. I also use a beaker with a lid that is chemically neutral with the silver 10 guage wires(99.99%) goingf through. Its on a magnetic stirrer/heater and I keep the current low enough to avoid the junk forming on the silver wires.   [End]
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Holy crap batman! Did you see the crud floating on the final solution? There seem to be so many issues that I can’t help but wonder if this should only be used as a topical or surface use. - iow. not for ingestion. Granted, the final product is yellow/gold and would likely continue to change color(orange/green) if processing continued. Though I’m not entirely convinced this is a good thing given the potential levels of oxides present in the final solution. - Which is most likely contributing to the particle size/composition and color. And though I found the heating of the water w ...
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Hi, I did a video teaching, step-by-step about how to produce golden colloidal silver. The video has some messages in Brazilian Portuguese, but I guess most of the people will understand it correctly. It is here: www . youtube . com/watch?v=UWTFt4yd5F0 Sukhoi   [End]
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Sorry I’ve been busy lately. It is 7.3 amps and 865 watts.   [End]
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Sounds like you’re well on your way to making high quality CS. Would you happen to know how many watts your stirrer element is? This will help determine your maximum batch size and working flask, electrode distancing etc. etc.   [End]
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I have plenty of .999 silver coins, and I have a lab hotplate with stirrer from my pyro days. Ivan Sanchez is a joke name I use on the internet since Russian and Latino seem like about as far removed from each other as possible. Also I understand the basic idea and terms like anode and cathode. I’m thinking the next thing I need might be a power supply? I have had Hepatitis C for a little under ten years now from some bad decisions in my late teens. My viral load has always been really low and to this day I still have the endurance to work all day hard physical labor with no breaks, ...
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Ivan Sanchez I’d be more than happy to share whatever information I’ve collected to make colloidal silver at home with you. But before I do, could I ask if price is a factor? ie, I began by making room temp solutions but chose to invest in a heated stirrer in favor of reducing production times with larger batches. Which works very well. However it can be a pricey option and so I’m cautious about what recommendations I offer in that regard.   [End]
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I know this might be a bit of trouble, but if you would please tell or direct me to make my own colloidal silver, if you say your home made stuff did the trick that store bought ionic or non ionic couldn’t. You said you talked to knowledgeable people to make it right. So i would like to know what they said.   [End]
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Interestingly enough, the only(allegedly) reported case of Argyria I could find involving a CS solution made by current standards(ie, 20ppm +/- w/distilled water) was reported as a localized condition. That is to say, that the discoloration was specific to one area of the skin such as the throat in this case. That being said, I should also add that the report did not come with photo’s or any form of verifiable data. And so I’m really not sure how helpful this as far as documented sources go. On the issue of warning signs, reports seem to indicate that the build-up of silver can appa ...
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thanks..... ive used rather large amounts of silver over the last year and have stopped as am extreamly paranoid over argyria !....do you know if you get any warning signs or can you be white one day and blue the next lol! ?   [End]
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Maybe that is why it is recommended to take mesosilver on an empty stomach, while there is no no stomach acid present. Of course I’m under the impression that the stomach waits for food to be present before it makes the acid.   [End]
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Hi koco, Unfortunately, I can’t really offer any useful opinions on the products you’ve mentioned as I have no knowledge of them myself. I’ve tried two different colloidal silver products in the past(Mesosilver and an EIS Colloidal Silver) both of which proved to be ineffective against my particular condition(bone infection). Which stood in contrast with a colloidal solution made at home and the help of some very knowledgable people online. And more importantly, proved to be very effective against my condition. And so that pretty much sums up the extent of my own knowledge insofar a ...
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Whats your view on silver hydrosol and also on source naturals colloidal silver. http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Wellness-Colloidal-Silver-30-PPM-8-fl-oz-236-56-ml/1492#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=source%20naturals%20silver&rc=6390&sr=null&ic=5 ....can these cause argyria????? also would you start noticing signs ???   [End]
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A study conducted by the Brown University in 2012 showed that nanosilver(ie, Messosilver) is subject to corrosion in acidic environments(such as stomach acid). which in turn, release or produces charged ions(ie, silver salts). And so, the particles that are ingested with silver solutions are not the particles that ultimately cause Argyria. ie, The researchers conducting the study showed that once nanosilver is broken down into the stomach, it is then absorbed into the bloodstream as a salt, which ultimately end-up being deposited in the skin, where it becomes exposed to light, which in t ...
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I was under the impression that argyria occurred because of taking silver solutions that were of high particle size, like the silver protein complexes that have huge particle size and ppm. From what I heard taking nano particle silver could never cause argyria because they are too small to be trapped in tissue, but this is only coming from Purest Colloids maker of mesosilver.   [End]
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Particle silver seems to be a favored label for these types of solutions(metallic). As for Argyria, I’d add that the going consensus that Particle or metallic silver is somehow safer doesn’t stand to reason. ie, as history has shown us that Argyria has been contracted through various methods, including though not limited to; external and dermal exposure, inhalation and ingestion. Though what’s most interesting is where these case were not limited to that of ionic solutions, but rather, that of; base metals, powder, particles and various silver compounds etc. Which seems to cast serio ...
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This stuff is amber to greyish colored too, depends on the thickness of the glass, the light, how much is in the glass. Just pointing out to people that chlorine dioxide oxidizes silver particles. It is just a waste of silver, or possibly hazardous. I just said mesosilver since everyone knows what that is instead of non ionic silver which just sounds confusing. I believe clear ionic ”colloidal” silver is only useful topically since it reacts instantly with the salt in the blood or stomach acid to become silver chloride which is insoluble in water or blood. Anyone out there can put som ...
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1. Mesosilver isn’t grey. It’s actually amber colored. It can turn grey however, if it becomes oxidized though that isn’t ideal. - Which only emphasizes the differences between both solutions(processing etc). 2. Since you’re not using Mesosilver, the title of your post is misleading, and so I really think you should adjust it so as to avoid any false incrimination in the process. - If you can’t do that(edit lock), you can report it to a MOD and add a note along with it. Sorry to hear about your condition btw. Though I really think there are too many factors(treatments) at play to figu ...
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Both are a 20 ppm colloid suspension of silver nano particles. They just call it black because it is grayish, just like mesosilver, I’ve had both. As I take MMS I get upper back pain, so I think that has something to do with Lyme.   [End]
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Er, isn’t MediSILVER BLACK a completely different color that Mesosilver(grey black)? And if so, then how can we call this an ”exact copy”? That being said, based on what you’ve written, I’d say there are far too many variable in the mix for you(or anyeone else) to draw any meaningful conclusions from. IOW. I’d clear the slate and start by administering one treatment at a time slowly, so as to monitor it’s effects and interactions. Otherwise you’ll likely never figure anything out. PS. I have no investments with any of the products you’re taking though I don’t think it’s fair to labe ...
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Hello I originally posted here under the topic ”trapped in perpetual die off.” I’m back, well someone mentioned that I might have lyme so I went to a semi lyme literate doctor, but didn’t feel like dropping the $500 for the lyme culture test so I said just give me the doxycyclene 400 mg a day, for a month and it actually stopped most of my symptoms like the burning down my left arm and sensitive skin like my right like and shirt around my neck and chest area were made of sand paper. Had anxiety and fever after a warm shower, couldn’t take the sensitivity to sunlight and after a couple we ...
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Thank you for that reply. I had a feeling that sterling silverware and toiletries containing silver would not possibly be able to give someone argyria unless they were heavily abused which actually would be hard to do with those types. I can see how abusing colloidal silver or working in an environment that contains high traces of silver dust could lead to argyria. I know everything I have written isn’t absolute but your response seems is in strong accordance with everything else I have read.   [End]
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Based on research, it appears as though there were numerous cases of argyria associated with silver over the years. Be it through ingestion, inhalation and/or direct contact. Though what’s outstanding is where the events leading to the condition seemed consistent with high concentrations over long term exposure. And so I’m not quite sure if the same could be had from the exposures of the everyday items we use in our day to day lives. ie, based on the data, it appears as though argyria takes place when the exposures and/intake of silver(be it metallic or otherwise) exceeds the bodies capaci ...
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Hello everyone, I was thinking recently about the chances of someone being able to contract argyria from eating everyday with sterling silverware since a small amount of the silver composing the silverware is consumed due to the friction and the enzymes in the mouth. Additionally, there are shampoos and deodorants that contain silver such as silver citrate, silver dihyrdrogen citrate, and silver chloride. Nivea, Dove, and degree are some companies to name that use silver in some of their products. It is inevitable that some of the silver in those products is absorbed by the pores of the ...
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True Colloidal Silver Just distilled water and silver Check what the PH would be? 7 to 8 maybe? Read up on this and draw your own conclusions! True colloidal silver has no acid, only water and silver particles. It is also more resistant to breakdown by stomach acids. All true colloidal silver has ionic silver present in it. Properties Colloidal silver particles absorb light by blocking the light from passing through, making the liquid appear darker. Colloidal silver has high levels of electric conductivity and low pH levels Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_5122607_k ...
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My daughter has hep C and I purchased the Sota Silver generator. I appreciate your site and would like to know how much she can ingest safely to get rid of the virus as I realize it can be harmful used unwisely.   [End]
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Did the sovereign silver heal your seborrhea dermatitis? How did you administer it, orally or topically? Thanks.   [End]
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I’d like to take this opportunity to set the record straight on a matter that has been brought-up in our forums recently. Following allegations made by a colloidal silver machine seller named Kephra, I took the liberty of contacting James Davis from Silverlungs to follow-up on the charge that he was somehow unqualified to publish reports and information on the use and production of colloidal silver as shown bellow: -- Posted by: Kephra -- For instance, the silver lungs guy makes the claim that his silver water has a pH of 10. Any chemist worth his salt knows that the pH of solutions ...
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There’s no need for childish remarks kscmac. Besides, I’m confident your light barer is mature enough to handle personal criticism all his own, don’t you? :)   [End]
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When confronted with facts and scientific knowledge they respond by stating their lack of understanding that comes with intelligent discourse. A group that shares info and ideas leads to new understanding and formation of hypothesis that explain actions not understood. By the way our ”hole” is into the light as to yours into the darkness that mirrors your small mind.   [End]
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You are right about one thing. I have formed my opinion of you. You may now go back to the hole from which you came from. :)   [End]
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Hear! Hear!! Thats the reply for the people who do complain and everthing else except contribute!!!!!!!!!   [End]
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Estee, I am the owner of cgcsforum.com and the silver-tron store. First, I do indeed have an agenda. It is to provide the best SCIENTIFIC data about silver and gold colloids. Yes, I do indeed have my opinions, and they are based on solid science and logic. Just because someone else does not know the real science does not mean that I do not. It is plentiful if you know where and how to look. Most of the information on the net is wrong and much of it nothing but scams. For instance, the silver lungs guy makes the claim that his silver water has a pH of 10. Any chemist worth his sal ...
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Right now I am cutting up Silver Cloth to make powered bandaids. A strip of silver cloth wetted down with IS/CS and applied over wound area, then a small 0.09VDC to 1.1VDC @ 300 nanoAmps(depending on length) Positive cliped to silver cloth, on opposite side(like arm, leg, chest, etc.) negative(cathode)on a copper or silver sheet film is where the negative is applied. Silver ions flow from the cloth into the wound area helping to heal and stop infection, Dr. Becker was just on the edge of a great idea when they ashut him down. I have used this ”powered silver bandaid” on several friends who ...
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To bad there is no site where people can just put their experiences with silver in healing. And to add what they did exactly and what the outcome was/is. Everybody is not going to have the same result. But to have a site with a large block of info could be very helpful. There is so many people trying to discredit or to take credit. And then those out just to make money into the mix!   [End]
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Do you know how much I should use at first if I have no nebulizxer yet? I have been on antibiotics(clyndomicin) for a week now will it hurt changing over? I just dont want to run into argyria. would 8 ounces starting off be a concern? Or should it be lower with ionic silver JAB I would ramp it up over a couple weeks until you get to a dose that is effective. I have taken ionic EIS silver in doses of 8 ounces per day for months without any side effects. If you have enough vitamin C, Selenium and other detox nutrients, argyria shouldn’t be a problem. Read the 1st tale in the link b ...
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Hi kscmac, I’m really not sure what you’re trying to say, though after a little investigating, it seems as though the cgsforums are fine with opinions so long as they coincide with the owners own beliefs. For example, there have been numerous instances where people have been treated poorly after disagreeing with the administrators POV. This in spite of the fact that he is often wrong. Which is likely why the site became so tightly wrapped under lock and key since it began. As for your testimony, I’d simply state that there is ample research to support the advantages and disadvantages ...
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The site is where I pass along what has worked and how CS/IS was made. Just info that has worked for people and methods for making CS/IS. Everyone can give their own view unlike most sites. I know what works since my wife died 3 times and brought back and since CS/IS she has not even been to the ER in over 2 years!   [End]
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I understand why you’re saying that ionic silver is more likely to cause Argyria than metallic silver. But... there is absolutely no proof of this beyond belief. In fact, there are already report of people who have developed Argyria using mixed ionic/metallic silver solutions and so I’d say such beliefs are most likely unsubstantiated. Not to mention where recent research has shown that people can and will develop Argyria from any form of silver and that the conditions is likely based on product quantities rather than type. Which was likely seen long ago as cases of the condition were repo ...
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A normal dose for nebulizing is 5ml to 10ml, 0.16907oz to 0.33814022oz. So a normal dose would be about 1/3 of a oz. A spray bottle or a nasal spray bottle would be the best untill you can get the other items. Nasal spray bottles have what each squeeze puts out in ml/oz, so you would know how many to do.   [End]
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Use a spray bottle to inhale the mist as you breath in. Empty and wash out an old nasal spray bottle(sterlize and clean it) and put CS(colloidal silver) into it. Go to cgcsforum and this site will help you to make CS silver out of IS(ionic silver) IS silver is more likely to give the blues to you than CS. Read info on the site, will help you a lot!! Spraying the CS into lungs and sinus put more silver at where you need it with out wasting it elsewhere in the body. You wont get the same mg’s at your lungs and sinuses by drinking the CS/IS, you would have to take in large amounts. Much easie ...
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Do you know how much I should use at first if I have no nebulizxer yet? I have been on antibiotics(clyndomicin) for a week now will it hurt changing over? I just dont want to run into argyria. would 8 ounces starting off be a concern? Or should it be lower with ionic silver   [End]
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If cold/flu something in the sinus/lungs using CS(colloidal silver) to get to the lungs and sinus directly gets more silver where it needs to be to knock out cold/flu. If taken by mouth it has to go through the whole body and that takes time and more CS! Putting the CS right at the site of infection/virus/bacteria puts a higher level of CS right where it is needed. Drinking it will take more and longer to effect.   [End]
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