>For me the answer is yes and no. I did flush out around 12 small, 1-2
>mm, black, hard, pigments stones on my 2nd out of 8 flushes. The 1 cm
>hard cholesterol stone in my gb proven by 3 ultrasounds during the 4
>months of flushing never did come out. Hereditary, sluggish, and
>partially diseased gb didn't allow the stone to exit with flushing.
Barry, there is one subject that may have never been discussed in this
forum, but that is a part of your unsuccessful attempt to remove the "big"
The shape of the stone.
If you examine the shape of your stone, you will see that it is not smut.
Those of you who haven't seen Barry's stone, I posted pics here:
If you would try to put that stone inside one of those rubber balloons, filed with water,
(those long and thin balloons that look like a sausage when blown big) and
then try to squeeze it out with the pressure of water.
I tried it with marbles, and it worked.
Even though marbles are much bigger then the diameter of rubber balloon,
and even though balloon's force is able to hold marbles tight, once marble
is in place, it blocks water, and allows pressure to rise to the point
where water is able to push marbles forward, all until marble is outside.
It does take some pressure.
If you try that with your stone, I bet you will never push it out.
Water will be passing beside stone, because stone is extremely irregularly shaped. (multi-bubbled surface )
So, why are your stones shaped that way?
Because they are composed of many smaller stones? - smaller fragments? -
held together with cholesterol?
Barry, take a look at this photo:
Cholesterol stones with multi-bubbled surface seems to be quite common.
In the same time, calcified stones are "never" with multi-bubbled surface!?
Something to do with way that stones have been created.
Those "multi-bubbled" stones seems to be formed from large number of
I believe that those smaller stones came directly from the liver
(intrahepatic bile ducts).
Liver, just like gallbladder, (and just like 99% of other tissues inside
human body) have possibility to extract water from bile.
Also, bile can far easier become stagnant deep inside small intrahepatic
bile ducts, then inside huge bile ducts and inside huge gallbladder, where
every motion of human body will cause motion and waves inside gallbladder -