Okay ladies....seems like we hit sensitive spot with our little boy. That sure didn't take much did it? Young man, you caved in like a cheap tent. Maybe you better run along now and play with the other wet behind the ears juvies. Better luck next time. PS-I am not naive (or neive as you misspelled it) I just have the been there and done that. You, on the other hand, have not yet been in my shoes. So, who is the one judging w/o knowing what the hell he is talking about? And by the way, my husband and I are both long distant runners, he also golfs and I swim 5 mornings a week-which is probably why I was tired this morning...shouldn't stay up till 2am and get up for a 6am swim. Damn! Have to start pacing myself! Cheers!