Re: Quick Correction/thought - Gerson did not use raw beef liver... Re: other variables/issues to add/consider (typo edits)...Re: the *one size fits all* diet theory

>>"...he used raw beef liver JUICE (extracted in a Norwalk) - there is a huge difference! Then, due to bacterial contamination (and likely the unavailability of truly healthy/clean cow's liver), it was switched to dessicated liver supplements or crude extract injection."<<

Okay, however the reasons were that man was moving away from what he had done for thousands of years at that time... the eating primarily of organ meats.

>>"Thought: as far as "meat" in concerned, one of the things that is missing is this thread (among other 'meat issues') is how much longer & harder the body has to work to extract the nutrients out of meat than it does from plants. The energy and resources expended on the digestive process is HUGE (creation of the various enzymes & fluids takes from our storehouses of nutrients). And if the body is sick & compromised with a lack of readily available nutrients for use...the nutrients needed to create the enzymes to break down the food will be taken from bones & tissue."<<

The time it takes for one to digest meats depends greatly on the person's ability to digest to begin with. In one with a strong digestive system, this is a non-issue IMO.

If *I* have a meal of fairly large salad and starches, I can barely make it through an afternoon... if it is one of boiled eggs, usually just two, or a few chicken livers, I have fuel for 6 to 8 hours no problem... and the volume of food I eat doing this is substantially reduced.

The difference in *me* is night and day. And you know my history as well as any one.

Digestive energy issues with digestion are also experienced in people who cannot *convert* plant nutrition to the form needed for them. In these folks, the animal foods are already in their correct form and require no, or very little manipulation and\or conversion. This is a huge reason for metabolic and genetic diet typing.

>>"I'm not sure (much more research required on my part) about this 'conversion issue'...it's as though people are assuming our bodies must "convert" plant-based nutrients into a usable form, but our bodies don't have to "convert" meat-based nutrients into a usable form (???)."<<

Yes... plant *D* is not quite the same as *mammal* D, etc. and these differences require a lot of *energy* to manipulate and convert, even in those who can... in those who cannot, the problem can lead to all manner of digestive distresses, gas, bloating, constipation, etc., and nutritional deficiencies among other things such as illness.

>>"The one thing that I'm confident of (currently), is that it takes much more effort & expenditure of energy for the body to extract the nutrients from fiberless hunks of meat than it does from the majority of plants (and of course, with juices, the extraction part is FAR more complete before it's ever ingested). And once the nutrients are finally broken away from the original substance...with plants we have an abundance of healthy fiber & roughage (which "scrubs" the villi, increases peristalsis and feeds the microbiota), with meat we have a glob of fiberless, gooey "glue".

The *energy* issue is a trade off... it is expended in the digestive process, OR, the conversion process. I am not sure it is a wash though, however, in one who has a strong digestive constitution, and can digest animal products with ease, I believe this is a non-issue.

Research when you have the time... help others first and foremost Uny. We NEED too at this point in time.

>>"The first thing to do when we're sick is to stop stressing the body in any way, and allow the (likely limited) storehouse of energy & resources to be utilized for healing and restoration (instead of processing 'heavy foods & fats'). Every animal knows to 'go off food' when it's sick; every "grandma" knew to go to broths & juices."<<

Processing of *heavy foods and fats* does not seem to be an issue for me... I do not tolerate grains and starchy foods at all.

Now, I need to try soaking them consistently and see if that helps any. Because, when I soak my corn in limewater... it does seem to help noticeably...

A bowl of steel cut oatmeal for me will bring on gas and bloating... but cooked in limewater... nope.

So the chemical reactions taking place must aid my ability to digest, and then perhaps utilize them better.

>>"It's not 'what' we take, it's what we ASSIMILATE!" (Schulze)<<

It is also becoming clear, that it is what we are able to convert...

In another post, I referenced that genetic scientists have recently found we are 6x more genetically diverse than once thought... this after getting into epigenetics and *switches* not to mention missing genes in some people that change EVERYTHING. I would imagine that some day... the rabbit hole will go deeper still than epigenetics.

I banged this out in a hurry... if anything is unclear... ask, and I will get to it later tonight or tomorrow morning when I have time.

Love you kiddo... keep doing what you do... the world needs more of us.

grz-