Re: Vektek, define Legalism, please (Christianity Debate) 2/17/2009 1359121

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>> "the bible says we need Christ" <<

No, we do not "need" Christ... if you want to believe that, it is your prerogative.

>> "God requires perfection" <<

This is also not true... nature itself is imperfection. Nothing is perfect... NOTHING. There are no perfect flowers, grass, circles, etc. etc. they are all different... all individuals.

We may state something is "perfect" or "flawless", however this is a subjective opinion and not fact.

I suppose one could argue that individual imperfection is perfect, as a mother would view her newborn child :-)

let go and grow...

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      Re: Vektek, define Legalism, please OmnesSempre 16 y 4,898
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        Good verse to use PROBABLYin this case, though Vek... OmnesSempre 16 y 4,730
        
        Christ isn’t Jesus’ name, It’s what He was. Many o... beej 16 y 4,729
        
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        The colleges these days are so liberal and anti-Ch... vektek 16 y 4,705
        
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        So to judge other’s without first looking within i... #20928 16 y 5,088
        
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        From what I have read in all of this it is not abo... thornsandnails 16 y 4,779
        
        Who Is This Guy? refreshed 16 y 4,635
        
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