Saved by grace (all my post in this thread edited because of stuff I shouldn't have said) (Christianity Debate) 2/15/2009 1357582

Saved by grace (all my post in this thread edited because of stuff I shouldn't have said)

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Saved by grace (all my post in this thread edited because of stuff I shouldn't have said)

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Christianity is about grace. The bible is clear that we cannot earn our way to heaven by our works, but that we are saved by grace. To teach that we are saved by our works is called legalism.

Everyone who can understand what I am talking about here, we need to take a stand against this kind of teaching whenever we encounter this. Legalism is rampant in the christian churches, and the body of Christ (the church) is suffering majorly as a result.

Eph 2:8-10
"By grace you have been saved though faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works lest any one should boast".

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- Re: Moreless's abuse while claiming Christianity DeniseinAZ 15 y 4,842
  - Actually Christians are charged to call to light f... thornsandnails 15 y 4,757
    - Some also seem to ignore doctrine while viewi... DeniseinAZ 15 y 4,853
      - Moreless is not a brother. H #85302 15 y 4,783
        
        I’m paraphrasing: He that thinks that he knows an... saywhatagain 15 y 4,830
        
        I totally agree with you. But there are certain th... thornsandnails 15 y 4,757
        
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        Let's Talk About Grace saywhatagain 15 y 4,779
        
        saywhatagain, thanks for your posts. I definitely... vektek 15 y 4,739
        
        Okay, Saywhatagain, I’m back. Sorry for the dela... vektek 15 y 4,738
        
        Saywhatagain, The answer to your question, ”w... LivingBlessed 15 y 4,788
        
        I think you’re on the right track. Do not trust i... saywhatagain 15 y 4,607
  - Re: Moreless's abuse while claiming Christianity vektek 15 y 4,695
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      - This appear to be an age old philosophical debate ... #108005 15 y 4,684
        
        108005, no this isn’t what this is. This is not... vektek 15 y 4,773
    - IS GOD A CHRISTIAN? Ask him #108053 15 y 4,823
- Vektek, define Legalism OmnesSempre 15 y 4,715
  - My analysis of this sermon is just as I said, I co... vektek 15 y 4,708
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      Re: Vektek, define Legalism, please OmnesSempre 15 y 4,893
      - The definition of legalism is again the belief tha... vektek 15 y 4,685
        
        James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is... beej 15 y 4,717
        
        Good verse to use PROBABLYin this case, though Vek... OmnesSempre 15 y 4,726
        
        Christ isn’t Jesus’ name, It’s what He was. Many o... beej 15 y 4,724
        
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        ditto beej 15 y 4,612
        
        Re: Vektek, define Legalism, please grzbear 15 y 4,760
        
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        A perfect person is... beej 15 y 4,597
        
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        If I had to pay to learn something from him I woul... beej 15 y 4,820
        
        Mmmmm, make everyone pay so they will behave. Sou... refreshed 15 y 4,722
        
        Thank you. I really do like moreless, but he’s the... beej 15 y 4,704
        
        I agree, ML is not the warm fuzzy type, but he doe... refreshed 15 y 4,813
        
        The colleges these days are so liberal and anti-Ch... vektek 15 y 4,700
        
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        Re: Vektek, define Legalism, please beej 15 y 4,554
        
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        ”They” are those who teach false teachings. ”ar... #20928 15 y 4,653
        
        grz, did you get the PM i sent? EDIT #20928 15 y 4,778
        
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- Your blatant hypocrisy is astonishing #20928 15 y 4,728
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        So to judge other’s without first looking within i... #20928 15 y 5,083
        
        I agree with what thornsandnails said here and hav... vektek 15 y 4,754
        
        Please meditate on this scripture. Matthew 7:... #20928 15 y 4,799
        
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        sigh... do not try to justify sin. And yes, Ive al... #20928 15 y 4,745
        
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        From what I have read in all of this it is not abo... thornsandnails 15 y 4,775
        
        Who Is This Guy? refreshed 15 y 4,629
        
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        refreshed is known here by her fruit...just like y... refreshed 15 y 4,638
        
        Ah so its Mr and Mrs vektek. Poor guy! #108005 15 y 4,850
        
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      - I run multiple websites. As long as they are not c... thornsandnails 15 y 4,760
        
        Perhaps you need to read the posts again if you do... #20928 15 y 4,729
        
        One cannot be truly preaching God’s word if one is... #20928 15 y 4,715
        
        So would you say that the reformers during the 15t... thornsandnails 15 y 4,777
        
        I’m not their Judge, but deception is deception. D... #20928 15 y 4,681
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      Vektek was disruptive argumentative and dishonest,... #108005 15 y 4,807
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        If using different names to post as to lead people... #20928 15 y 4,700
        
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        In this I will agree. thornsandnails 15 y 4,744
        
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      - Disruptive? Not really OmnesSempre 15 y 4,701
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        LOL!!!!!!Hilarious!!!!!!! tomi444 15 y 4,597
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