Re: Dumb ??? Do ovaries shrink?

I believe you. It makes perfect sense, if herbs can turn boys into girls by endocrine changes, then it seems highly likely that herbs can also have similar effects on female testes.

I'm the opposite of MH's philosophy. I reviewed the posting of MH and consider this part bunk:

"There is not such thing as a SAFE non plant supplement, because if it did not come from the tree/plant, then it is toxic, because we can't assimulate and eliminate it as Naure designed us to do."

Remember the ill-fated Rbert Scott British team of the South Pole expeditions ? They used plant-based vitamin C and prevented not scurvy. The Roald Amundsen Norwegiean team got their vitamin C from eating the livers of some of the 50+ dogs which they brought along, and none of them got scurvy. Guess who won that one , the plant boys, or the liver boys ? I supplement myself with liver regularly. I let the cow eat the grass, because, as Moreless says, all them greens are "alkalizing". So, the cow I eat is wonderfully alkalized. It is a perfectly aklalized animal, full of alkaline minerals throughout its organs and meat, which I occassionally chomp down as did my 90+ year old still-living ancestors. Ever see an Eskimo eat an orange ? Do Eskimos eat herbs ? Last I checked, they subsist predominantly on raw fish and blubber. They have among the lowest cancer rates around the planet. All that herb-pokery is for herb-pokers I'd imagine. To each their own, but show me just one living person over 75 who has taken "herbs" for any length of time. I'm waiting to read about ONE, just ONE, who holds up the herb jar and says "I'm Earl Freskin and I've been eatin these here herbs for 30 years and I feel great." I never heard of a single herb-eater in the upper age groups.

But lots of the healthy older ones eat liver, kidney soup, and the like. Please pass the butter.

Herbs are dangerous, and most have not been fully evaluated. Many cause irreversible kidney damage and you won't know it until 10 years later. The gov has no interest in or duty to weed out the poisons, as we've
seen repeatedly with all the food recalls. Most herbs come from china, becuase herb distributors are profit-motivated. I recall several articles about kidney damage and chinese herbs. Herbs are potent, they should come with a skull and crossbones on the label for many of them. History has proven many herbs to be poisonous. Just because it's natural, doesn't mean it's safe or good.