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  Nutritionist "Canary" HSP Seeks Understanding: Why...   Raederle   5 y  1,157  † C †
  
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  I read The Plant Paradox in August 2018 and began the program immediately. After over a decade of studying nutrition, this is the best book on health and nutrition I’ve ever read. I was very impressed with the program, so I followed phase-1 to the letter, and later repeated phase-1 on a couple occasions (months apart) to try to kick-start my body again. (Phase-1 is a three-day cleanse where you essentially just eat lettuce, avocado, flax oil, fermented cod liver oil, and perhaps a few other greens like dried nori, and absolutely abstain from sweet fruits, animal produ ...
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  • Time to ditch dr. gundry. Never heard of him, soun...   WhoAreYouNormally   5 y  1,198
    
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    Time to ditch dr. gundry. Never heard of him, sounds lame. The oil problem is very easy, you do well with mufa oils, terrible with high pufa oil. You’ll probably do good with coconut oil. ....

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    Time to ditch dr. gundry. Never heard of him, sounds lame.
    
    The oil problem is very easy, you do well with mufa oils, terrible with high pufa oil.
    
    You'll probably do good with coconut oil.
    
    Starch and saturated or mufa fat seems to work.
    
    Try white potatoes.
    
    Your liver is not good - liver sort of runs the allergy show. Start liver flushes.
    
    Try some white Sugar for extra carbs. Anyone who says sweet fruits are bad is misinformed. even if they have 10 ph.d.'s
    
    Standard curezone liver, gut, kidney, parasite cleanses.
    
    All those problem veggies are high sulfur - you could have mercury and or other metals.
    
    Try low sulfur/thiol diet.
    
    There has to be some meats that work.
    I'll write more later.
    
    

     
    

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    • ”Time to ditch dr. gundry.” — I have no idea why y...   Raederle   5 y  1,099
      
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      ”Time to ditch dr. gundry.” — I have no idea why you would say that after what I wrote. ”you do well with mufa oils, terrible with high pufa oil.” – Actually, polyunsaturated fats like flax oil ....

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      "Time to ditch dr. gundry." — I have no idea why you would say that after what I wrote.
      
      "you do well with mufa oils, terrible with high pufa oil." – Actually, polyunsaturated fats like flax oil have been great for me for over a decade, and olive oil is something I've been sensitive to.
      
      "You'll probably do good with coconut oil." – I already said that I couldn't eat coconut oil without adverse reactions for many years, but Dr. Gundry's diet actually has cured me of that sensitivity.
      
      "Try white potatoes." – I talked about potatoes in my post. Although, I didn't mention that I have found yellow and white potatoes to work better for me than purple and red ones.
      
      "Your liver is not good - liver sort of runs the allergy show. Start liver flushes." – I've done Liver Flushes in the past with no change in my reactions to food. I'm not sure these are allergies, per say, since my reactions are headaches and stomachaches (not rashes or flu-like symptoms).
      
      "Try some white Sugar for extra carbs." – This is a very weird suggestion when I explicitly mentioned that refined sweeteners give me migraines. I learned to stay away from it at the age of ten. If you want to really get the scoop on White Sugar , I recommend the book Sugar Blues.
      
      "Standard curezone liver, gut, kidney, parasite cleanses." – I'm not sure I've done all of these. I have done some intense parasite cleanses, especially when I was eating a raw vegan diet.
      
      "All those problem veggies are high sulfur - you could have mercury and or other metals." – Yes. I did bite a glass thermometer when I was a toddler and got severe mercury poisoning. As usual, western medicine figured my stomach had been pumped and it was all dealt with; no need to tell my parents about the dangers of mercury or how to cleanse my body. However, I've done enough mercury-detoxing over the past twelve years that cilantro no longer tastes like pennies to me; in fact, I love cilantro now. So I'm not sure if I still have heavy metal toxicity.
      
      I am very sensitive to sulfur, so that is a very interesting observation. Black salt, which is very rich in sulfur, tastes and smells so bad to me I can't go near the stuff, and it is slipped into my food I end up feeling very sick to my stomach. I've never much looked into that before though. Why would sulfur be bad?
      
      "Try low sulfur/thiol diet." – Do you have a link to what that would look like?
      
      "There has to be some meats that work." – Yes, as I mentioned in my post, wild caught fish works great for me and I eat it regularly. Although, I was vegetarian for ten years and that was fine for me too. I don't tend to crave meat or need it. I didn't notice any particular improvement in my health after I added fish to my diet, although it was a nice change and helped me with some of my transitions. When I was at a fancy restaurant a couple months ago they had little on the menu that wasn't lectin-rich or choked full of refined sweeteners, but they did have steak from locally-raised cows who were guaranteed to be grass-fed, so I got a steak and it actually did fine for me. However, when I've eaten farm-raised fish in the past I had intense abdominal pain and skin-breakouts; but I now know that is because the farm-raised fish are fed soy and corn (lectin-filled foods which I can't tolerate).

       
      

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      • Sorry I did not read your post carefully enough re...   WhoAreYouNormally   5 y  1,267
        
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        Sorry I did not read your post carefully enough regarding coconut oil and potatoes. Well you wrote a whole novel about stuff going on now and failed to mention the elephant in the room that yo ....

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        Sorry I did not read your post carefully enough regarding coconut oil and potatoes.
        
        Well you wrote a whole novel about stuff going on now and failed to mention the elephant in the room that you had confirmed mercury poisoning (likely still have as cilantro is more of an anecdotally 'somewhat helpful' herb).
        
        Before any of this, the first thing I usually recommend is take your body temp orally a few times a day and make sure you're 98.6 or higher, if not then you're hypothyroid, and address it. A lot of problems go away when body temp goes up.
        
        Then another thing I always recommend is people get their macronutrient ratios down. You do this through experimentation with protein/fat/carbs-sugars. Go higher/lower in one and see what happens until you your body settles on something it likes.
        
        So I'll explain some of my reasonings.
        
        First, whenever I see someone say something like 'healthy foods aren't working for me' it usually means the foods aren't healthy. In ayurvedic medicine for example, aside from cooked garlic, or well cooked onions, all of these vegetables are known to be bad for vata dosha. Extremely sensitive people imo are usually vata dominant, and from your post it seems like you're a good fit. The raw fermented veggies are about the worst thing vata can eat, and sure enough your body is responding likewise. This is not a lectin issue, it's more like eating fundamentally wrong for your body type.
        
        A good carb for vata would be pumpkin, sweet potato or squashes. Maybe you can do oats or starchy white rice.
        
        Have you ever looked into peter d'adamo regarding lectins and blood type? I think his work is still best, and have not seen anyone as good as him with lectins.
        
        I stand by your liver being in bad shape or else you would not be so reactive. How many flushes did you do, what happened, etc, etc.
        
        Regarding lectins, I've been down those roads before. Yes, they are a thing, but some of the things I touched on are further upstream.
        
        All of your veggie list are high sulfur foods. You can read Cutler's book on mercury to get the chemistry. Basically, assuming you are still mercury toxic (don't know yet but a decent guess) high sulfur foods just wind up moving mercury around causing more damage without excreting. You should definitely get a hair test to see what's going on.
        
        For the time being you could try saunas to dump metals. Make sure you're hydrated with ample sodium, potassium, and staple electrolytes. Do you still have Amalgam fillings? Any root canals? Flu vaccine?
        
        Actually I do knew a little about gunderson, I like his polyphenol supplement and recommendations. But there is this whole cloth of physicians turned naturalists who don't have enough background in natural medicine and then start making sweeping statements like 'cruciferous vegetables should be revered'.
        
        Some basics are that you need fuel to burn. When I see someone limiting carbs, or can't do a lot of carbs due to various reasons, and they are not a good fit for keto, there will be problems. Sugar blues - meh. Actually diabetics can slowly titrate white Sugar to increase insulin sensitivity. Sugar is not the cause of the problem. Sensitivity to refined sweeteners = low mineral status. Do you take any supplemental minerals? I like bisglycinates. Zinc, chromium, vanadium, mag glycinate, calcium if tolerated, molybdenum can help the mcs/lectin type hypersensitivity, brewer's yeast is a good source of selenium.
        
        
        You said veggies drenched in oil - yes very vata thing to say. Try sesame oil.
        
        Olive and avocado oil are relatively low pufa compared to the seeds oils. You could try ghee, perhaps the tiny bit of casein/lactose in butter is throwing you off. You could also try some other saturated fats like shea, cacao butter, palm seed oil (only seed not fruit). I am not sold on pufa oils in any form.
        
        White potatoes and sugar come from the Ray Peat playbook. White Sugar is problematic for some people, but it's not the devil that a lot of people in alternative medicine make it out to be. If you have problems with grains then White Sugar is a good sugar source. I did not read carefully enough that you don't do well with refined sugar. So I would test out all the sweet fruits instead and find which work.
        
        All canaries' livers are plugged up. So I'll double down that your liver is not pumping bile well or much at all. If your stool is not dark brown and/or you exhibit other symptoms of bile stagnation, then you might want to look into getting deeper into liver function.
        
        It's hard to know exactly which will help you from one post (that I did not read carefully enough - usually I do)
        
        After a hair test and reading Cutler maybe there are some supplements that could help you like taurine or NAC.
        
        If you must eat the goitrogen crucifers, cook them to death and add vata friendly spices, salt and fat, that will mitigate the damage they cause. Check your temps after eating crucifers to see if it goes down substantially - might indicate Iodine supplementation will help. Iodine is great, but I didn't mention it yet due to information overload.
        
        Lectin info was available pre-2000 from D'adamo. None of the other lectin people impress me. Blood Type Diet is great for some people, really great. Him and is father, who did a lot of the pioneering work are OG!
        
        
        
        

         
        

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• Making own probiotic cream for thrush?   #223132   6 y  443  † C †
  
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  Have had candida for awhile now. Am trying to find a way to get nystatin (doctors not being of help). In the mean time trying to deal with thrush on the head of my penis. Antifungals make a small difference so am thinking of going a probiotic route that is known to disrupt candida and help with healing like saccharomyces boulardii. Haven't found a cream for that. Figured I could possibly break open a capsule and add the small pellet/sand like contents to a thick gel like substance to apply to penis head. First thought was something like coconut oil BUT that is naturally antifungal and figured it might kill S. Boulardii as it's a yeast. Don't know that for a fact. Most gels I have available seem to have antifungal properties. What I do have at home that I figure might work is ghee and rendered fat.
  
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• Research showing probiotics can adversely affect d...   Empowerment   6 y  791  † C †
  
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  PROBIOTICS AND BRAIN FUNCTION
  
  I had been regularly eating yoghurt, or kefir, and I've taken probiotics capsules.
  
  I stumbled upon an article. It describes the results of a study that found the following: people taking probiotics experienced digestive issues and mental sluggishness.
  
  One of the things that appeared to be causing my mental sluggishness (during the last few months) was probiotics.
  
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  Probiotic use is a link between brain fogginess, severe bloating
  Date: August 6, 2018. Source: Medical College of Georgia at Augusta University
  
  Link to the article. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180806095213.htm
  

   
  

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• Probiotics Cause Stringy Saliva   #236489   6 y  533  † C †
  
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  Hello everyone. Firstly, I am sorry about my English. I'm not a native English speaker. I have problem taking probiotics. Two days ago, I took probitoics in powder form in my mouth and tougue. And I immediately got thick, foamy and very stringy saliva. It doesn't go away even if I overbrushing my whole mouth. I also use antibacterial mouth wash and It doesn't help. What should I do now? I'm really worried. My saliva used to be watery.Please help me.
  My oral health is really bad now. Thank you very much.

   
  

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  Probiotics Have Destroyed My Digestive System   Mojojomo   6 y  2,153  † C †
  
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  Just a warning to anyone out there who are considering taking probiotics, I have given myself severe dysbiosis by taking them. The only probiotics I've found that my immune system tolerates are plain old lactobacillus acidophilus (floragen) and making scd yogurt from the yogourmet yogurt starter(I actually see benefit from these). All other strains my gut treats like an infection. I'll get loose yellow stool, diarrhea, and lots of mucous in my stool from anything else whether it's a lactobacillus plantarum probiotic, floragen 3 probiotic with acidophilus and 2 strains of bifidobacterium, or kefir. Before when I took these probiotics, my body was always able to compensate for the poison I was putting in it. I would have loose yellow bowel movements with undigested food for days after taking it but I would still be able to eat most foods except for sugar/ very carby for a while. It would always return to some sort of a balance. But now, my body is so compromised the only foods I can eat are meat, fat and herbs. I cant even tolerate low carb vegtables my microbiome is so altered. My intestines hurt all the time and I have a lot of brain fog and fatigue as well. I also now suffer from panic attacks. If I eat carbs, I can sometimes instantly have a panic attack. At first I was able to treat this with herbs and got myself better for a while in early 2017. But then I went experimenting with probiotics (floragen 3) again shortly after stopping the herbs not yet realizing probiotics were causing my issues. Within two days of that, I was having loose yellow stool, abdominal pain, burning urination, and diarrhea. And with that, gone was my ability to digest anything but meat. If you look back at my previous post from 2015, I talk about my symptoms and how I got to where I was. I always thought it was the medications I was on that put me where I was. And don't get me wrong they were giving me some pretty serious problems, but I was able to track when things started to go seriously wrong during track season of my senior year of high school down to an order of "Garden of Life Raw Probiotics Men" on April 8th 2015. I was pretty much on my way to complete recovery before that thanks to stopping all the medications. (Again read my older post for more info, I'll link it below) I don't even know how to treat this anymore. Herbs and Antibiotics help temporarily but only temporarily and in the end don't make much of a difference. The only other thing that has helped are osmotic laxatives to help wash out some bacteria and fasting. I'm not sure how I'm going to approach this from here. I'm working with a very open minded GP and a naturopath and hopefully will be able to report back with some success eventually. Just wanted to get the word out that trying to be healthy can be dangerous. Especially when it comes to putting live organisms in your body that interact with your immune system. There's a fine line between probiotic and pathogen and our immune systems are all so different we don't know how they will react to what we put in it. There is no one size fits all. Probiotics can be amazing but start with simple first. Just a single strain is all you need and preferably just plain acidophilus. It is the most widely used and most researched.
  
  Link to my post from 2015: https://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=2252836#i
  Also as a side note for the above link the probiotic the doctor prescribed me was floragen (Plain Acidophilus)
  
  

   
  

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  • You are correct, probiotics are marketed as the la...   linenup   6 y  1,793
    
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    You are correct, probiotics are marketed as the latest and greatest. Dr. Leo Galland talks about this, that oftentimes that by adding probiotics, you are stimulating more immune action which is no ....

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    You are correct, probiotics are marketed as the latest and greatest. Dr. Leo Galland talks about this, that oftentimes that by adding probiotics, you are stimulating more immune action which is not good, the second problem is that there are a wide variety of probiotics and indiscriminately adding any probiotic could be problematic.
    
    Sounds like a SIBO issue may be at play.

     
    

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    • Thanks for the reply, I just had a SIBO test do...   Mojojomo   6 y  1,649
      
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      Thanks for the reply, I just had a SIBO test done, here are the results: https://www.curezone.org/ig/i.asp?i=100133 They are pretty conclusive, it is negative. Even though I know they’re ....

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      Thanks for the reply,
      
      I just had a SIBO test done, here are the results:
      
      https://www.curezone.org/ig/i.asp?i=100133
      
      They are pretty conclusive, it is negative. Even though I know they're not a %100 accurate, I really don't have the most basic symptoms like bloating from fibrous foods and do okay on garlic. I just feel really bad a couple of hours after eating them. If I drink fruit juice for example, I don't get diarrhea right away. I get it 4-8 hours later.
      
      I believe my problem is dysbiosis brought on by probiotics that act like a pathogen in my system. It explains why I can survive on meat, fat, and herbs because they're not fermentable. If I eat fiber/ fermentable foods I get so sick and weak to where I can't function.
      
      The only other things that help are fasting and osmotic laxatives as they help get the microbial count down. There has to be a way out of this. It's never been so bad though where I was never able to eat plant foods. My gut always was able to recover even though back in 2015 I onslaughted my gut with a multi-strain probiotic that affected me negatively for months. My own natural flora and immune system were able to get back on track. Once I started seeing a doctor one of the only supplements I was on was that garden of life probiotic. He told me to stop it. My health recovered to a point where I was able to move out of my house and get an appartment. I realized then it was the probiotic that made me sick. Any other time I tried a probiotic it made me sick with loose yellow stool and fatigue.
      
      To anyone else who experiences loose yellow stool, fatigue, Chronic belching/sulfur smelling burps shortly after starting a probiotic, stop it immediately. This is what happened after I started taking a probiotic that did not agree with me and it has ruined my health.

       
      

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        Then the next likely explanation is that you have a dominance of a particular bacteria that is creating imbalance, at least that is my thinking. Ubiome has a test that can identify specific bacte ....

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        Then the next likely explanation is that you have a dominance of a particular bacteria that is creating imbalance, at least that is my thinking. Ubiome has a test that can identify specific bacteria and grouping. It used to be reasonable, but I think they changed some things around.

         
        

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        • I just had one done by Genova Diagnostics and it s...   Mojojomo   6 y  1,673
          
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          I just had one done by Genova Diagnostics and it showed a potentially pathogenic bacteria is slightly overgrown (Hafnia Alvei). Here are the results of that. https://www.curezone.org/upload/_D_ ....

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          I just had one done by Genova Diagnostics and it showed a potentially pathogenic bacteria is slightly overgrown (Hafnia Alvei). Here are the results of that.
          
          https://www.curezone.org/upload/_D_Forums/Dysbiosis/Stool_Test.pdf
          
          I went on a 10 day course of Antibiotics and it helped slightly but no significant improvement. Part of my problem is that whatever is in me is so resistant that I don't think I'll be able to make it go away with herbals/ Antibiotics . I'm currently on day 3 of a Water Fast and plan on going for 7 days. We'll see if that helps me make any sort of progress. I just can't believe a probiotic has messed me up this bad. It's sad that trying to be healthy ruined my health.

           
          

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  • How is your liver. Also I believe anxiety is cause...   Zztop807   6 y  1,777
    
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    How is your liver. Also I believe anxiety is caused by sleep apnea. How r u sleeping. Need a sleep test? I believe thats why my daughter had severe anxiety.

    How is your liver. Also I believe anxiety is caused by sleep apnea. How r u sleeping. Need a sleep test? I believe thats why my daughter had severe anxiety.

     
    

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    • Generally I am able to get enough sleep. The only ...   Mojojomo   6 y  1,650
      
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      Generally I am able to get enough sleep. The only time I can’t is when I’m having a panic attack, which will be relieved the next morning by a couple bouts of loose stool and diarrhea.

      Generally I am able to get enough sleep. The only time I can't is when I'm having a panic attack, which will be relieved the next morning by a couple bouts of loose stool and diarrhea.

       
      

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      • Sounds like gut dysbiosis, this can lead to acid r...   Darling   6 y  1,636
        
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        Sounds like gut dysbiosis, this can lead to acid reflux. Keep away from ppi as you’ll never get off them if you start them with dysbiosis. Over time the dysbiosis can travel upwards causing sibo ....

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        Sounds like gut dysbiosis, this can lead to acid reflux. Keep away from ppi as you'll never get off them if you start them with dysbiosis. Over time the dysbiosis can travel upwards causing sibo and reflux, this can lead to increase plaque in the mouth. Some people shouldn't take probiotics at all. The problem is we are all unique and we simply don't know which ones suit us individually.
        
        The other problem you have now is that because you have an imbalance, to much of any Antibiotic may make you feel better at first but if you need them long term you don't know how you're going to cope with them.
        
        Also, many people who have tried Antibiotics and think they are cured find that the condition just comes back again.
        
        Truthfully, your gut will improve hugely over time but it won't cure itself. Bacteria is all around us and everytime you place your hand on a surface and put that hand to your mouth you are injesting bacteria, that's good, you need that. Over time things will gradually improve as you injest more bacteria but it's going to take time, I'm thinking a minimum of two years but if you keep taking the herbs that will have an effect on bacteria injested. By this time you will be eating carbs. You will find you can tolerate different carbs than others. For instance you may tolerate the carbs from an avocado but not from a rice cake, it takes time. Many people can't tolerate eggs but that's often not true, it's the whites that usually cause the problem. Rainbow trout is good for calcium intake and is often better tolerated than salmon. Rice bran oil has no carbs. Liquigen is good for fat intake and getting calories higher. Have you tried avocado to see if you can tolerate it, it's usually a very well tolerated food and the carb intake is lower but it is an almost nutritionally complete food. In your case you have to try different foods, you should always start with one tsp.
        
        

         
        

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        • I’m wondering if you have candida and that is the ...   jaguar57   6 y  1,556
          
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          I’m wondering if you have candida and that is the reason for the upset when you took the probiotics. Good bacteria and candida fight for squatters rights on the surface of your intestines.

          I'm wondering if you have candida and that is the reason for the upset when you took the probiotics. Good bacteria and candida fight for squatters rights on the surface of your intestines.

           
          

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    • I learned a thing or two from my doctor some peo...   #154340   6 y  1,604
      
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      I learned a thing or two from my doctor some people with anxiety, brain fog, memory loss etc.. are being helped with BioBody Balance oil Some of the doctors are suggesting a drink made ....

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      I learned a thing or two from my doctor
      some people with anxiety, brain fog, memory loss etc..
      are being helped with BioBody Balance oil
      
      
      Some of the doctors are suggesting a drink made with one tablespoon of Phosphatidylcholine (PC) and one tablespoon Bodybio Balance oil with 1/4 C coconut milk and water mixed together into a twice a day a drink and with two egg whites. or two boiled eggs
      
      
      The more I researched it and found it to be interesting.
      3I have brain fog and my doc suggested this twice a day for two
      following that 20 IV's.
      
      It is pricey, but my doc wanted me to use that brand so I just bought it.
      

       
      

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  The human body contains 10 times more bacteria than human cells, with 50 trillion microbes living in the average digestive tract alone. Since 1950, we are doing everything we can to change that! Are we cutting off the branch we are sitting on? ”A woman born in the 1940s might have two courses of antibiotics in childhood. If she has a daughter, she might pass on slightly fewer normal bacteria. Her daughter will likely have several courses of antibiotics and the granddaughter has slightly fewer bacteria again. Each generation could be beginning life with a smaller endowment.” ...   [This message is long. Retrieve the whole message]

   
  

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  Water kefir and dysbiosis   Jhony Da Silva   6 y  1,288  † C †
  
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  Hello buddies. I'm new to water kefir or tibicos.
  In the past I used milk kefir. I'm now fermenting my water kefir with organic brown Sugar I'm making fermentations of 3 days. I'm concerned about any candida issues.
  Is it a good try? What are your experiences with water kefir and dysbiosis and candida?
  Thanks for reading. And thanks for helping.

   
  

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  • In my experience sauerkraut has been more successf...   jhan   6 y  1,355
    
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    In my experience sauerkraut has been more successful than kefir and probiotics. Jhan

    In my experience sauerkraut has been more successful than kefir and probiotics.
    
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• My Candida and Parasite Protocol. Can you help me?   hlbb   6 y  435  † C †
  
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  Hey all,
  Im reaching out and asking for help.. I have been a member for a couple years, reading and learning from all of you. However, this will be the first time that I make a post and share my story.. Im hoping to get some advice on my Candida & parasite Protocol. Im feeling a bit confused and a bit overwhelmed and I want to make sure that Im doing things as best as I can, so that Im not wasting my time and money.
  
  Ive always known something was not right with my health. I could never find out what it was for YEARS. Doctors always told me I was crazy and there was nothing wrong with me. They never knew why I had eczema. These dry and painful red rashes in my armpits and inner thighs have been with me for 14 years. Any doctor I saw would only give me more creams, and zero answers. I've been told the floaters in my eyes are "normal." My recurring yeast infections were just treated with more over the counter products that were making them worse. Ive been told my bloated belly "is just my body shape". My fatigue, foggy brain, Depression are all "curable" if I take an anti-depressants, but I refuse. Im sure this is not news to all of you, to be misdiagnosed for so long. Its just frustrating, that I wasted 14 years trying desperately to find the answers. Finally after taking my health in my own hands, I asked to get bloodwork and stool testing done. The biggest finding was Candida albicans in my digestive system. I also had a slight intolerance to gluten, ZERO VitaminD, low ferritin, low b12, and low thyroid. I did not get tested for parasites, as the cost was twice as much as the one I got, which hurt the bank enough.
  So, I am now 2 weeks in of my second "candida cleanse". When I first received my results in the summer I attempted to do the 3 month program the doctor gave me, however I failed after 4 weeks! So this is my second attempt, except this time I'm going to finish the 3 months. This diet sucks, I will say. But the second time around it seems a little easier. I guess failure makes you stronger.
  So here it is. I will point out what my doctor has recomended for me, and what I have added (or would like to add) into the protocol. Any advice from you would be extremely appreciated.
  
  -For 3 months, strict candida diet. No starches, sugar, dairy, coffee, alcohol. 1 serving of fruit a day or less. Also no gluten due to intolerance. Keeping hydrated with at least 8 cups of water a day (drinking way more). - Doctor recommended
  -Anti-fungals + Anti parasite herbs: (loose herb form): Cloves, Wormwood , P'au Darco, Cats Claw, Olive leaf, and cascara sagrada (for laxative effect). I mix these loose herbs together into a jar and then take one heaping teaspoon mixed with water and 1ml tincture of Black-Walnut , 2X a day on an empty stomache. - My doctor recommended a way overpriced bottle called Olivirex, basically almost all the same ingredients. I already had these on hand from a previous parasite cleanse and told her I would use my own, she said this was fine, however I didn't mention the cascara sagrada. I added this into my herbal mixture to make sure I am passing everything that I am killing off.
  
  Vitamins:
  Vitamin B-12 1000mcg -Once daily First month, once weekly second month, once every 2 weeks third month. Doc recommended.
  Thorne research Basic B-complex twice a day for the first month, then 1 every other day for 2nd and 3rd month. Doc recommended.
  Rosita Cod liver oil - 5ml a day for 3 months with 4 drops of 400 IU Vitamin D3. My doctor recomended the Cod liver oil, and only 2 drops of D3 a day. I didn't feel that it was enough so I'm taking 4 drops because my levels showed so low on my bloodwork. Should I be taking even more D3?
  Thorne research Magnesium Citrate 135mg - 2 upon waking and 2 before bed for 2 months. 3rd month 3-4 twice a day. Doc recommended.
  Vitamin C - as much as I can throughout the day. 3000-6000mg depending on the day. This was not suggested by my doctor but I decided to add it to the regime.
  Multi-Vitmain - starting on the second month 2 scoops daily for 2 months - Doc recommended.
  GLA Borage oil - starting on third month, 1 daily. Doc recommended
  Thyroid Support - Starting on third month, 1 daily. Doc Recommended
  Probiotics - Starting on second month - 1 daily. Doc recommended
  
  Things I would like to add but not sure how to:
  I have a bottle of garlic capsules that are 500mg. I would like to take these with my herb mixture, is this safe and how much?
  I have oil of oregano but I have read good and bad things about taking oil of oregano. Is this too dangerous to add to my protocol?
  caprylic acid. I use coconut oil when cooking but want to get more caprylic acid! from what I read it won't hurt to add this to my regime. How much should I take and where would I add this in my regime?
  Probiotics - I worry about my gut flora with all these antifungals and don't want to destroy all the good guys too while I'm at it. My doc doesn't recommend that I start on probiotics for 2 more weeks, but would it hurt to include them now?
  Psyllium husks. I just purchased a big tub of this. Im thinking of using this instead of the cascara sagrada. The CS seems to be giving me a "lazy" loose stool. I don't feel like its emptying me out like it should. I have tried psyllium in the past and I like that it bulks up and "pulls" everything out of you. Do you think this is a better option than the cascara sagrada? The container of psyllium says its 66% psyllium husks and 34% inulin. Is this Okay? Ive read mixed reviews on inulin and candida, let me know your thoughts.
  I also have not done any enemas since starting my candida cleanse two weeks ago, but I plan on starting with coffee and water enemas this week. I just don't enjoy doing them...
  Lastly, I have herbs like tumeric, dandelion root, and milk thistle. would it be worth to take this as well to support the liver? or am I just doing too much now?
  I am also drinking dandelion root tea, Pau dark tea, adding lots of raw garlic and ginger into my diet for extra anti - candida effect.
  
  Well, I think thats all. I hope I didn't share too much and ask too many questions! I understand this is a lot of me to ask, so any help or input would be so appreciated. Thank you for your time and reading about my story.
  Wishing you all health & happiness!!!
  
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  How do i clear my pipes and tub from parasites?   Dgruel1968   6 y  907  † C †
  
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  I really need some help guys!. Ive been struggling fighting this creature that i fight off every night, and every time that i wake up im just reminded that i'm actually stuck in the same nightmare. If you guys haven't already thought it, i know"Not cute". The kind of parasites I have aren't really known to many other people than those who are going through it, and the government course. That said this is the only forum thati can actually vocalize how i feel. Some of my closest friends told me i was crazy, I cant even begin to tell you how many times I've been close to being put into a psych ward. Today i'm not exactly happy but neither too sad to poute to say that "I AM NOT CRAZY!". At . the very least i can say is that my condition is being recognized by the medical community. Although i have a plan and I am working a little harder every day; i'm still having this one problem. Its actually crucial that i get a response/solutions on this forum for me to move forward, otherwise It'll be counter productive to all my hard work and progress. My problem is that i can't seem to get these parasites to go down the drain once the come off my skin. If its not that then they end up on my household drain pipes.Please someone help? tell you have some sort of solution. Ive tried everything out there.

   
  

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  • Bleach? I think a heavy bleach kills all gross stu...   Bigparasites   6 y  1,083
    
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    Bleach? I think a heavy bleach kills all gross stuff.

    Bleach? I think a heavy bleach kills all gross stuff.

     
    

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  • 96% alcohol, i use it in a spray bottle.   Positive mind   6 y  1,074
    
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    96% alcohol, i use it in a spray bottle.

    96% alcohol, i use it in a spray bottle.

     
    

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  • Dont put them down the drain. Put them in a plasti...   bettieblue   6 y  919
    
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    Dont put them down the drain. Put them in a plastic container or a plastic bag they cant escape and throw them away.

    Dont put them down the drain. Put them in a plastic container or a plastic bag they cant escape and throw them away.

     
    

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• Tinnitus and probiotics   SarahJMG   7 y  211
  
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  Does anyone notice tinnitus is worse when you take probiotics? I take garden of life raw 5 day max and am on second day. I have had tinnitus for years but it’s just louder upon standing more of a whooshing than usual.Thoughts?

   
  

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  Probiotics and antibioitcs   KY23DUB   7 y  1,534  † C †
  
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  I'm so confused and definitely need some help. So ive come acrossed some articles which state that Antibiotics can potentially permanently alter beneficial bacteria after the course is done. Antibiotics -may-be-permanently-altering-our-friendly-gut-microbes">https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-09/ Antibiotics -may-be-permanently-altering-our-friendly-gut-microbes this is just one. Now if this is true they tell you to just take a probiotic which in most cases is transient and doesn't really colonize the gut. And also you'd only be supplying ten strains compared to hundreds that got destroyed during treatment. Is this true? I'm asking because I want to take antimicrobial s for parasites but I don't want to permanently kill my good bacteria. So depressed right now..

   
  

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  • i just went thru the same thing, eat plenty of sa...   Lind1   7 y  1,554
    
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    i just went thru the same thing, eat plenty of sauerkraut, and i think its bromelain, spiraling, triphala that will help the parasite bacteria, check the parasites rx group, they can tell u bett ....

    i just went thru the same thing, eat plenty of sauerkraut, and i think its bromelain, spiraling, triphala that will help the parasite bacteria, check the parasites rx group, they can tell u better, but i took them.....

     
    

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    • But will the antifungals and antimicrobials perman...   KY23DUB   7 y  1,429
      
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      But will the antifungals and antimicrobials permanently alter my gut microbiota like the study suggests?

      But will the antifungals and antimicrobials permanently alter my gut microbiota like the study suggests?
      

       
      

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      • No because it is not like most people mistakenly b...   BrightSideOfLife   7 y  1,563
        
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        No because it is not like most people mistakenly believe. Antibiotics are not a cause of illness and disease. The colon is a giant biofilm and biofilms make bacteria resistant to many things wh ....

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        No because it is not like most people mistakenly believe. Antibiotics are not a cause of illness and disease.
        
        The colon is a giant biofilm and biofilms make bacteria resistant to many things which might destroy them in the planktonic state. Biofilms protect bacteria against other bacteria and their natural Antibiotic substances, environmental toxins such as pharmaceutical Antibiotics or natural substances which could destroy bacteria and also offer some protection against bacteriophages.
        
        Destroying bacteria inside a biofilm is extremely difficult, trust me on this because I have been attempting to destroy a number of infections protected biofilms and so far I have had only minor effect despite using considerably more than a simple antibiotic. Some of the worst infections which harm long term health are protected by biofilms, this includes infections which promote cancer development.
        
        Saying all that, I would still be near the end of the queue to take them myself or any other pharmaceutical medication.

         
        

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        • But there are so many studies that say that antibi...   KY23DUB   7 y  1,420
          
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          But there are so many studies that say that antibioitcs kill off good bacteria and some more that say the killing of beneficial bacteria could be permanent.

          But there are so many studies that say that antibioitcs kill off good bacteria and some more that say the killing of beneficial bacteria could be permanent.
          

           
          

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          • That article indicates to me that they do not real...   BrightSideOfLife   7 y  1,533
            
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            That article indicates to me that they do not really know very much......claiming that antibiotics might cause type 1 diabetes, is rubbish. Claiming that antibiotics might cause allergies and asth ....

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            That article indicates to me that they do not really know very much......claiming that Antibiotics might cause type 1 diabetes, is rubbish. Claiming that Antibiotics might cause allergies and asthma is also utter rubbish. 4 years ago this coming January I worked out the underlying cause of t1 diabetes, which I am one, the cause of CFS, allergies, asthma, arthritis, eczema, IBS etc. These are all linked by a bacterial INFECTION which has nothing to do with the colon and nothing to do with Antibiotics .
            
            The changes in microbiota can be caused by changes in the stomach function as they are in CFS. The other autoimmune illnesses are all linked to the same infections and the same problems.
            
            Antibiotics and common antimicrobial products sold in shops such as handwashes and cleaning products could be indirectly responsible by promoting the development of Antibiotic resistance which these infections show very strong resistance. No current antibiotics will destroy them not even the more advanced treatments.
            
            Changes in the microbiota are mostly caused by the crap diets people eat which promotes the growth of yeasts, fungi and pathogenic bacteria. This is evident in obese people who eat the wrong foods, high in carbohydrates which promotes the changes in the microbiota which causes an increased fatty acid production which leads to weight gain.
            
            Most of these researchers lack real intelligence, cannot think outside the box and do not deserve the degrees and PhD's they have been awarded.
            
            Next time, stick to reading articles written by decent Science websites. That is utter trash IMO.
            
            This might be of interest:
            https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/pptu/index.php

             
            

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    • Spirulina....not spiraling   Zztop807   6 y  1,166
      
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      Spirulina....not spiraling

      Spirulina....not spiraling

       
      

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