Hi everybody,

Can taking Primal defense for a year causes staph overgrowth?

Thanks
Brainfogger

RE: Garden of Life's product "Primal Defense". After reading the author's book, "Heal Thyself" I purchased his expensive supplements, including Primal Defense. After two weeks of consuming it, I became VERY ILL with a staph/strep infection in my blood resulting in open sores on my skin. I cannot take Antibiotics so I have to cleanse the sores with food grade hydrogen peroxide, and iodine. My regimen includes dry skin brushing, table salt baths, and saunas. I am doing Hulda Clark 's kidney cleanse & will proceed with her Liver cleanse. I believe my ill health is the direct result of consuming the product Primal Defense. There is no way of knowing what the long term result of ingesting soil conditioners is. I have reported my illness to my local health department, and the Center for Disease Control. Additionally, I know of two other individuals who also became ill while consuming Primal Defense!!!

Hi, this is Jini Patel Thompson here.

I hear the argument about Natren being a competitor to Primal Defense. But that's also forgetting a simple point: Wouldn't it be simpler for Natasha to produce her own soil organism product, rather than spend her time and energy speaking out against soil organisms? When you own your own manufacturing plant, diversifying your product line is a breeze and costs very little.

Hmmm...could it be she's actually concerned about people's health? Likewise, her insistence that viable probiotics need to be refrigerated at all stages (like yoghurt). Wouldn't it be a whole lot easier for her to just offer a "shelf-stable" line of probiotics? When you already have millions of customers worldwide, surely this would make more financial sense?

Sure it would! But that's my point. Natasha Trenev is one of the pioneers of the alternative health field and one of the minority who have not sold out their integrity for money.

She maintains one of the largest libraries on microorganism research in the world, with a full-time librarian. She also has a PhD Microbiologist on full-time staff - who often works with California hospitals to set up and implement clinical trials of probiotics.

Neither of these activities are cheap, but they are vital to understanding and staying at the forefront of this field that is absolutely rife with misinformation.

Anyway, getting back to the soil organisms - here is an extensive list of references (from hard Science sources) that illustrate WHY ingesting soil organisms is experimental at the very least, and potentially dangerous. This list was compiled back in 2004, so don't know how many of the web links are still active - but still, you can find them by searching on the title/author.

Regarding the "alternative vs. allopathic sources" debate. Both have their pros and cons and my solution is to research and talk to both. With the ultimate trump over any research or study being my own body wisdom and experience. My best to all of you in your Healing Journey.

*Okay, I tried to publish this comment and it won't accept it saying that it's too long and contains too many links. So I'll post this in it's entirety at my own blog for anyone who's interested:


http://www.listen2yourgut.com/blog/gut/bacterial-soil-organisms-hsos-sos-sbos...


take care,
Jini

I read somewhere else on this site a controversy that there SBO are lacking in Primal Defense. There was suggestion of a scam b/c of that. If that is true, maybe that is a good thing.

Not one of these post's mentions the type of water coming into their home.

Is it well water?

OR is it Municipal water that has been treated with chlorine bleach?

If it's the Municipal water coming into your home, then the chlorine you are absorbing threw your skin and inhaling into your lungs while you are in the shower are killing off your friendly bacteria, that you are using those expensive probiotics to re-grow. And thus no good results from the probiotics.

A whole house filter that removes chlorine or a shower filter or wearing rubber gloves washing your dishes.

Municipally treated water kills of alot of bad things in the water supply before it gets to your home. BUT it does this at a high price. That chlorine is also very carcinogenic...

Read Jon Barrons "Lessons from the Miracle Doctors", the chapter called "Dying of Thirst".

Read or print out the transcript of Dr Natasha Campbell-McBride, who pioneer'd GAPS.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/05/12/dr-campbell-mcb...


:)

I just started Primal Defense Raw last week, and it has literally made me a happy person again; so far it has solved all of my digestive complaints, and I am so grateful.