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- Expand 20 messages, 21 to 40 of 132 Penn
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- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... susie21
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,393,213Thank you very much, I will keep posting as I make progress, and good luck to chewy as well (this is her post really) and thanks to everyone else for the advice, it's always good to get different opinions.
- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... Sjaak2017
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,392,895taking to much Iodine inhibits thyroid function ,when i was hyperthyroid i used Iodine to make me more relaxed when i was to hyper. After those months of to much Iodine you became hypothyroid it wil take years to recover from that without thyroid medicine 1 mg iodine can even be to much probably
- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... Penn
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This is a reply to # 2,394,791"... 1 mg Iodine can even be to much ..."
Can you provide any credible research results on this, or related studies?
Some of these messages sound more like big pharma propaganda than legitimate info.
This type of stuff is becoming more common lately, throughout the internet and main stream media.
Now... even on curezone?- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... Sjaak2017
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This is a reply to # 2,394,800We are talking about someone with hashimotto
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9703374- an article which describes realistic... Penn
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This is a reply to # 2,394,869The article you quote does not exactly support your previous statements.
Here is an article which describes realistic results for the general population,
Without any vitamin supplements.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1638306/pdf/envhper00309-0035.pdf
- Re: an article which describes reali... Sjaak2017
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This is a reply to # 2,394,872Yes you talk about 2 mg for healthy people i am talking about people who already have problems like on this forum , fact is to much and to little Iodine causes thyroid problems, the problem is what is to little and what is to much ?, the link i showed was about Iodine in a dose of 250 mcg, and people with hashimotto would get hypo from that dose, seeing that susie21 has hashimotto's 1 mg could be to much
- Re: an article which describes reali... Sjaak2017
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This is a reply to # 2,394,883To elaborate this is my theory what happend to susie21 , she doses a to large dose of Iodine for months this turned of her thyroid ,for months she would do fine and feel good because her autoimmune disease would now attack a non functioning thyroid , but since she does not create thyroid hormones anymore she became hypothyroid after a few months
- Re: an article which describes reali... #68716
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This is a reply to # 2,394,885But, the ovaries also produce T4, which means your statement that "she does not create thyroid hormone anymore" is not accurate if based solely upon thyroid gland function, unless you also can show that the ovarian function is turned off. These health issues are usually more complex than what first meets the eye, and for that reason I suggest that what most people believe when attempting to make diagnoses of others' conditions, is wrong.
- Re: an article which describes reali... Sjaak2017
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This is a reply to # 2,394,895Wait the ovaries produce thyroid hormones ? are you trolling now a quick google gives me nothing.
- Re: an article which describes reali... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,394,912anyone can use google. if thats all you got, you shouldnt post advice here. you should be asking for it.
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- Re: an article which describes reali... Sjaak2017
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- Re: an article which describes reali... #68716
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- Re: an article which describes reali... Sjaak2017
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- Re: an article which describes reali... Sjaak2017
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- an article which describes realistic... Penn
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- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,394,800here is what big pharma says about SSKI (pima syrup)
SSKI -potassium-iodide-343399">https://reference.medscape.com/drug/pima-syrup- SSKI -potassium-iodide-343399
for use as an expectorant:
adult dosage - 300 to 600 MILLIGRAMS every 6 to 8 hours. thats a couple of grams a day. no biggie. works great.
pediatric dosage for the same thing - 60 to 250 MILLIGRAMS by mouth every six hours.
so big pharma suggests a gram a day for children as an expectorant.
i dont think its big pharma shills youre hearing. i think think its pure fear.
still taking 750mg every morning of every day, at least.
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- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... Sjaak2017
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This is a reply to # 2,391,717
Hi.You have adrenal issues you need to attend before you attend to the thyroid.
- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... Ruffneck
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This is a reply to # 2,393,001More info
http://thyroidnation.com/treat-adrenals-destroy-thyroid/
If its any consolation i felt great on Iodine for a day then crashed.I was ok within a couple days after that.- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... susie21
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This is a reply to # 2,393,002Yes, I know it's adrenal now - but I had no adrenal symptoms to speak of before, and I was supporting them - also I was taking a very low dose of iodine. I still believe it was the relentless release of toxicity that crashed my adrenals rather than the Iodine as I was fine for 4 months - adrenal issues from the improved thyroid performance would have shown up much sooner. I think people underestimate just how much toxicity might be buried away, I certainly did and honestly expected normal detoxification support would have been sufficient, was I wrong!
- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... susie21
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This is a reply to # 2,391,717
If you were deficient in Iodine when you started supplementing and then started increasing your dosage, it means that your body reacted to it and adjusted accordingly by regulating the metabolic processes.
If you then depleted yourself entirely of the source your body was expecting, of course the effect will be profound -- your body is begging for more Iodine so it can keep up the rate of repairing and detoxing.
Please give me an idea of your everyday dietary habits. What are you eating, and what else are you supplementing with? The symptoms you described point to a deficiency in electrolytes. Are you getting enough salt, magnesium, potassium? Are you getting all the required micronutrients? Do you take a daily multivitamin?
I'd like to help you, and I think you should seriously consider reintroducing Iodine supplementation in concordance with the co-supplements Mr. Brownstein recommends taking with the Iodine.
- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... Chewy2314
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This is a reply to # 2,393,177Ruffneck, thank you for your information. I totally believe that adrenal issues could be causing a lot of these symptoms. I’m trying to improve my adrenals through diet and exercise. I’m trying to stay away from supplements as I don’t know how many my body can currently handle. Susie has given me great information on to help my body gently detox. Zemon333 I have of course considered that this may be my body crying out for Iodine after supplying my body with it for 4 weeks and just stopping. However, the fact I am experiencing symptoms months after stopping the Iodine terrifies me to put it back into my body. I truly believe there are safer ways to heal your body than just taking high doses of iodine. I wish I had realized this earlier as I am still experiencing symptoms. I had thought the same about electrolytes. My blood work says that everything was in the normal range? I’m not sure how accurate blood test are. I’m not sure if I’m getting all my micronutrients. My doctor told me eating a kiwi a day would help this. My diet has been changing constantly because I’m so unsure of how to help my body heal. I tried juicing and this made everything worse. I am mostly just paleo now. Eating lots of veggies, fruits, and organic proteins/fish. My symptoms are SLOWLY getting better. Some anyway. My heart palps have improved and my anxiety has improved a little, but definitely not myself. I have body aches and one side of my throat has constantly been irritated. Almost like there is mucus sitting in there. It will feel better occasionally when drinking tea, but comes right back after. I’m suppose to get an ultra sound of it tomorrow. My digestion system has been affected. My stools were constantly loose and then I started experiencing constipation and now it is back to loose. I appreciate your feedback and thoughts, so thank you for reaching out and any information you can help me with is appreciated!
- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... zemon333
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This is a reply to # 2,393,214If you really want my advice, then buy a reputable multivitamin, Vitamin C 1.gr tablets (not the ones that dissolve), Selenium (200 – 400 mcg per day), Magnesium/calcium combo from NOW, potassium citrate powder (1-2.gr p/day), unrefined Sea Salt (1/2 tsp p/day), continue with your Iodine supplementation, and of course, drink plenty of water.
If you want to make sure you are really getting everything, I'd also recommend you buy Vitamin K2 and Chromium Picolinate. Vitamin K2 ensures that if there's calcium buildup in your veins, it'll go away and prevent it from happening. Chromium is an insulin co-factor which further improves insulin sensitization, which is extremely important if you want to get rid of all fatigue.
If you get detox symptoms, take 1-2 days off and take 3-5.grams of Vitamin C along with Aloe Vera 99.9% inner leaf juice, which increases Vitamin C absorption and speeds up liver detox.
Along with this, you should exercise at least 3 times per week with aerobic exercise, until exhaustion.
I'd also recommend contrast showers after each exercise session, just because it is extremely healthy for you and I firmly believe it assists in regulating the entire hormonal system of your body.
http://www.journaloflymphoedema.com/media/issues/890/files/content_11212.pdf
Don't be afraid of Iodine because it causes symptoms. The symptoms mean it's working, and you're just gonna have to pull through and continue with the routine I prescribed to you.
I am presently doing everything mentioned above and let me tell you, it changed my life. If you get knocked out because of detox for a day or two, so be it -- stopping the routine will only slow down the recovery process. I know this because I've gone through it and kept at it, and I believe that the synergetic effect of consuming all the essential nutrients in adequate doses, and exercising then doing the contrast shower, helps the body flush all the bad stuff out as quickly as humanly possible.- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... Chewy2314
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This is a reply to # 2,393,220Thank you much for the supplement advice and hot/cold shower tip! I’m defintely going to try to get more rigorous exercise in, but it’s been hard because of all the fatigue. Like I said, I’m honestly terrified to put Iodine in my body because of the detox I have experienced. Just like Susie, I have felt like I’ve been on my deathbed for the past two months. Scary symptoms that I have had a really tough time coping with. I can deal with a couple days of detox, even a week or 2. But MONTHS has been torture. It’s also scary not really knowing if I’ll ever feel the same. I just don’t know if supplementing Iodine is a good idea right now with all the symptoms Iodine has brought on. Maybe in the future when I’m feeling better and my detox pathways are clear.
- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... grizz
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This is a reply to # 2,393,230Chewy & others,
If you are having too many detox symptoms I suggest that you be sure you are taking all of the required co-supplements. 200yg of selenium is always required to be taken with iodine.Please see this link:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IzFKo-r2-Nn8_z0KUrOhHdlanzSuhkuV3QO03XF6YTY/edit#
Where you will find all of the co-supplements:
Why Take Co-supplements: The Key to Success on the Iodine Protocol
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2013/12/29/companion-nutrients-the-key-to-iodine-protocol/
½ tsp Natural Celtic Salt AM daily, Himalayan Pink Salt, Redmonds Salt or Hawaiian black salt. If salt is pure white, it is not acceptable (minerals have been stripped out )
200+ mcg AM selenomethionine (L-selenomethionine recommended) 800 mcg Limit
400 mg Magnesium - PM best=glycinate, citrate or malate others are poorly absorbed - more may be needed - See this link - (Calcium will purge magnesium)
2,000+ mg Vitamin C - PM Sodium Ascorbate (easier on stomach) or Ascorbic Acid. Increase dosage to bowel tolerance: See This Link
500 mg Vitamin B3 Non Flushing as Niacinimide. (Niacin causes flushing) -or-
ATP Cofactors caplet AM contains both 100mg B2 & 500mg non-flushing B3 in the correct ratio. Take 1/2 caplet up to 25mg of iodine, then ½ more for each additional 25mg iodine. (Max 3 daily per label) Can be discontinued after 1 yr, IF Iodine sufficient & no deficiency or detox symptoms.
I also suggest you SLOOOWLY ramp up your Iodine intake. Start wit 1 drop of Lugols 3% weekly, then add a drop daily until you are taking 7 drops a week.
Then take 12mg Iodoral Capsules daily.
The benefits from iodine are just too important to give up.
1. Iodine is used by our immune system to kill cancers
2. Required to prevent & cure Fibrocystic Breast Disease, ovary cysts, uterus problems
3. Prostate problems in men.
We cured a woman in our home town that was sent to Home Hospice to die with incurable Uterus Cancer.
She started on 50mg of iodine daily with co-supplements and was cured in only 6 months. She lived an additional 5 years before dying from a heart attack.
.Her best friend cured he Fibrocystic breast disease that she was suffering for 20 years. Her doctor wanted to do a double mastectomy but she was cured in only 2 weeks with 12.5 mg of iodine
I also use 12 mg daily for my own prostate.
Also see this link:
https://sites.google.com/site/iodinereferenes/home
Grizz
- Re: Depressed, wishing I’d never tak... susie21
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This is a reply to # 2,393,247Grizz, I followed your instructions to the letter - I have hashi's so I was extra careful and very slowly increased to 3mg probably over a 4 - 6 month period. The detox when it came was so severe I was totally unable to function as was/is chewy. I will review increasing Iodine at a later date, however spending 2 out of every 3 days in bed due to horrendous throbbing and tingling from head to foot and a pulse of 120 plus, extreme anxiety, and periods of fatigue so debilitating that I could not stand up for 3 months is not my idea of how to improve my health. You should accept that some people have this kind of reaction and it is wrong of you in my opinion to try and tell them to increase/continue when they are at the limit of their endurance. Some of us must work, in my case I had to leave work and I am now unemployable due to my age and medical history so I am also living on fxxkall. I did not have cancer, breast or uterus problems, or any obvious adrenal issues which I now have. Your protocol does not work for everyone, yes if I had a terminal illness and nothing to lose maybe, but I have almost destroyed my life with this. And when I came on the forum looking for help earlier this year I had a load of abuse accusing me of "blaming" iodine, being magnesium deficient, not taking enough salt etc etc. I am a trained naturopath and spent the last few years improving my health successfully with good diet and supplements so I found it very insulting to be treated like that as if I was a total idiot and didn't know what I was doing, but now I am not even back to square 1, I am at minus 100 square 1. I only come on this forum now to try and help people like chewy who are being urged to keep taking higher doses. She obviously can't cope with what it has triggered and is very scared as I was. For people with a hidden high toxic load (that they may not be aware of) Iodine starts a detox that can be stopped, I know I am living with it.
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