Somer, Livingwater or other wonderful experienced ones...Please advise.

I posted on the Liver Flush site and I just got one response. It was a thoughtful and helpful response, but I really would like some other opinions. I've been looking through the juice fasting site and I think maybe I should have posted it here. I'd really need some advise from someone who has some knowledge in these areas and I have been really impressed with Sommer and Livingwater's prior posts. If either or both of you are reading this, I sure could use your wisdom. Anyone else who might have some wisdom or thoughts for me also would be greatly appreciated. Here is the prior post with details of my current woes...

Message 1
i'm on day 27 of a juice fast (primarily veggies, but 1 to 2 apples/day). i did a coffee enema on monday and within a few hours started having pain on right side (? liver or gallbladder) as well as on left side (? possible kidneys). additionally, my right shoulder started hurting and my right eye got bloodshot. i started drinking some bragg's apple cider vinegar in water and the eye cleared, but all other pains have remained...although intermittent.

i started doing the juice fast due to an acute systemic skin rash as well as chronic Psoriasis because i caved in and let the doctor give me some steriod creams and then oral steriods because things had gotten bad. i had not used any medication over the past couple of years, but my skin was in crisis and i didn't feel i had a choice. steriods really didn't help much and once finished my skin started getting bad again so i started the juice fast. the systemic rash has now cleared and the Psoriasis is some better, but not gone. my plan was to finish the juice cleanse whenever my body told me to eat and/or my tongue was clear. my plan also was to do a Liver Flush a couple of weeks after eating fruits, veggies, and nuts. now that i'm having all these pains, i'm afraid this third coffee enema stired up some toxins and possible stones that my body cannot process. i think what i need is a liver flush, but i've never done one before. i've also been reading and it looks like it is not a good idea to do a Liver Flush when fasting this long so i'm afraid to do one. maybe i should do another coffee enema, but i'm freaked to do that too. i really would like some advice from someone knowledgeable in these areas to let me know what they think i should do.

i'm in houston and i've tried looking for a medical health professional to guide me on the whole process before i even started the juice fast, but i did not have luck in finding anyone. anyone know of a medical professional in houston that i could go see? i really would appreciate someone letting me know what they think about my situation.

kindest regards


Message 2

Thank you for your kind and thoughtful response. I have been surprised by all these pains after the coffee enema, especially since I did do a distilled water enema both before and after the coffee enema. I've only done 2 fasts before and they were both just 10 days on The Master Cleanse so I don't know what to expect now that I'm on Day 28 of a juice fast. I'm afraid to quit because I wonder if I'm just going through what people call a "healing crisis" and they say I should not stop until I feel better, I'm hungry and my tongue is pink. I'm still not really hungry and my tongue is still coated and I definitely do not feel better so my body is obviously not at the so-called "completion" stage, but I think I have to stop because I still have the pains I mentioned on last post. They are really mild pains, but I don't want them to get any worse and my body is telling me something. Unfortunately, I just don't know what it is trying to say...healing crisis so keep fasting or some other problem and stop fasting.

Although a part of me tells me I'm not finished fasting, I think maybe the best thing to do at this point is to stop. Today I plan to start eating Watermelon and fruits and will do so for a couple of days followed by some veggie soups then eventually add raw veggies and nuts/oils. I think I'll also start a parasite cleanse cause I think I might have passed a couple of worms (or it was my muscosal lining or something) about 10 days ago. Should I wait until I finish a parasite cleanse before I do a Liver Flush since Clark recommends not Liver Flushing until after parasite cleanse? If I keep having all these pains, should I just go ahead and do a liver flush before doing the parasite cleanse?

Thank you again for your taking the time to help me with my woes.


PS - I forgot to add that it is the afternoon and I have not yet broken my fast. Something inside me seems to be telling me that this is a healing crisis and I shouldn't stop. I have scheduled an appointment with a doctor (DO) who does both regular and alternative medicine, but it's not until Monday. My thought is to hang in doing the juicing until then.