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The 5 Points of FINALISM loquat1 8 y 4,112
- Re: The 5 Points of FINALISM trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,041
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- Good and concise! Thanks Loquat! vektek 8 y 1,073
  - Always a pleasure chuck. Glad you liked. loquat1 8 y 980
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        where did you get the idea that i came here to tea... trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,030
        
        Loquat, Trapper is love you know! So we can only i... vektek 8 y 1,001
        
        hey, we all make mistakes. trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,000
        
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        Re: The 5 Points of FINALISM trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,001
        
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        Helping them to understand my posting #69242 8 y 1,010
        
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        Re: The 5 Points of FINALISM trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,036
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        Just to make this more clear. Many people who bel... refreshed 8 y 1,016
        
        I understand Refreshed that there are lots of vari... vektek 8 y 1,024
        
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        I’m aware of the history. That does not mean that... refreshed 8 y 987
        
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        I realize much has changed in that region, but the... refreshed 8 y 975
        
        When ya see 'em fleeing into da mountains, l... loquat1 8 y 1,015
        
        I’ll be nice and make you an ice cream pie. Your f... refreshed 8 y 963
        
        Baked Alaska it is then. You are wr... loquat1 8 y 960
        
        Yeah, but I don’t think Jesus would say that just ... vektek 8 y 962
        
        Quite apart from which, no amount of wriggling b... loquat1 8 y 964
        
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        I don't see how the rest of that passage alt... loquat1 8 y 1,673
        
        Loquat, if Dispensationalists do not believe the N... vektek 8 y 987
        
        How about up the creek without a paddle? loquat1 8 y 952
        
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        You in Cyprus again? Okay, I just did a quick r... vektek 8 y 1,468
        
        Yeah, unplanned break to sort out some biz., so... loquat1 8 y 990
        
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        always look for the constructive point in any of m... trapper/kcmo 8 y 924
        
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        Trapper, if you believed and taught like J Vernon ... vektek 8 y 1,044
        
        you keep expectin me to make you feel good. that... trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,022
        
        the more i think about this, the more obvious it i... trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,008
        
        ”its how folks can pray for a tragic situation, li... vektek 8 y 965
        
        theres hope for you, then. trapper/kcmo 8 y 982
        
        You have a great imagination Trapper, I have to sa... vektek 8 y 1,034
        
        sure thing. whatever you say. trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,236
        
        Re: The 5 Points of FINALISM trapper/kcmo 8 y 965
        
        http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/joel.html ... trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,082
        
        then there is just plain old common sense applied.... trapper/kcmo 8 y 955
        
        The Kingdom of God is already here. You become a ... refreshed 8 y 974
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        well I’ll be dipped in doo-doo and wrapped with a ... trapper/kcmo 8 y 952
        
        It can’t be the best post I ever made because you ... refreshed 8 y 1,017
        
        So by implication at least, I'm just one ste... loquat1 8 y 1,002
        
        youre already a spiritual clusterf*** because you ... trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,616
        
        Speaking of good fruit, how are the loquats doing ... vektek 8 y 951
        
        you dont understand fruit, so you cant see mine, s... trapper/kcmo 8 y 955
        
        No, I don’t wanna delve. Do you? And why would you... vektek 8 y 972
        
        yea. i’ll just stick to what i am doing. repro... trapper/kcmo 8 y 955
        
        Re: The 5 Points of FINALISM vektek 8 y 1,005
        
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        Funny you should ask vekky. The crop this yr wou... loquat1 8 y 929
        
        Sorry to hear that Loquat! Those frosts are very d... vektek 8 y 1,467
        
        The flowers, five-petalled and white, are rathe... loquat1 8 y 961
        
        Not TMI for me, I really enjoyed reading all that!... vektek 8 y 978
        
        ....much cleaner and fresher smelling than Tr... loquat1 8 y 957
        
        here, more turds for ya. trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,002
        
        Re: The 5 Points of FINALISM vektek 8 y 972
        
        Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revil... trapper/kcmo 8 y 935
        
        Poor Trapper! So heavily persecuted by these relen... vektek 8 y 1,000
        
        see, the word of god has never failed me. trapper/kcmo 8 y 945
        
        The word of God will not fail anyone. But the... vektek 8 y 997
        
        yep. quite noticeable around here. trapper/kcmo 8 y 921
        
        And all the faithful said 'AMEN'! ... loquat1 8 y 940
        
        Absolutely Loquat! And for someone who loves ... vektek 8 y 1,072
        
        The real irony here is that he loquat1 8 y 1,016
        
        True Loquat! Reminds me of this Luther quote: ... vektek 8 y 1,050
        
        you two are clowns. message of the cross my ass... trapper/kcmo 8 y 949
        
        i am here because it is infested with you. ... loquat1 8 y 883
        
        Trapper with free reign? That’s a scary thought! vektek 8 y 909
        
        better than a white board for illustrating whats a... trapper/kcmo 8 y 863
        
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        That's v. gracious of you. Thx for your kind... loquat1 8 y 934
        
        Case in point above, I believe. U... loquat1 8 y 928
        
        yes, you do. you love rebellion. you love your i... trapper/kcmo 8 y 960
        
        Re: The 5 Points of FINALISM loquat1 8 y 929
        
        I love Luther too Loquat! What about this quo... vektek 8 y 981
        
        Farting at the devil huh? Hmm......... tha... loquat1 8 y 1,065
        
        Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, not very effe... vektek 8 y 903
        
        Loquat (lol, just accidentally hit under the red s... vektek 8 y 954
        
        Totally inaccurate. There was no FB in them thar... loquat1 8 y 893
        
        My daughter missed being born on Halloween by one ... vektek 8 y 913
        
        oops, meant your ”mum” not ”mom”, lol sorry! vektek 8 y 913
        
        I used to blog in 'Americanese' (I was ... loquat1 8 y 861
        
        Thank you Loquat! You’re a gentleman! :) vektek 8 y 919
        
        No, neither did I. You learn something new every... loquat1 8 y 925
        
        PS The word you’re looking for is loquacious. ... loquat1 8 y 894
        
        Just slightly! :) vektek 8 y 1,170
        
        mocking evil doers is not nice. we are supposed t... trapper/kcmo 8 y 867
        
        well, since you never knew luther you must be in l... trapper/kcmo 8 y 901
        
        I take that back Trapper, about this dog being a s... vektek 8 y 968
        
        Philippians 3:1-3Authorized (King James) Version... trapper/kcmo 8 y 874
        
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        I love any brother or sister, dead or alive, who p... loquat1 8 y 925
        
        Romans 1:25 who changed the truth of God into a l... trapper/kcmo 8 y 916
        
        As a description of your MO, I'd say it has ... loquat1 8 y 943
        
        i have known jesus since i was a child. you dont ... trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,328
        
        That's right, I don't know him, and nei... loquat1 8 y 889
        
        so? i dont care what everyone else thinks. and a... trapper/kcmo 8 y 899
        
        That's right - stick with the Bible. When you lear... loquat1 8 y 917
        
        gee, youre not completely daft. when you follow... trapper/kcmo 8 y 902
        
        You keep trying to take credit for being The Tree ... refreshed 8 y 964
        
        so when jesus said i was free he lied, huh? whe... trapper/kcmo 8 y 926
        
        Free from what? Being part of the church (His bod... refreshed 8 y 889
        
        Re: The 5 Points of FINALISM trapper/kcmo 8 y 988
        
        thats right. dont answer this. you and your gang... trapper/kcmo 8 y 889
        
        Happy to oblige, insofar as it's possible t... loquat1 8 y 985
        
        in other words you got nuthin trapper/kcmo 8 y 927
        
        I concur Loquat! vektek 8 y 1,295
        
        you worship the same false god. of course you wou... trapper/kcmo 8 y 879
        
        When you're ready to give it a go, let me kn... loquat1 8 y 884
        
        This is what scripture says. Sorry, but you can’t... refreshed 8 y 961
        
        Are you quite sure refreshed? Mt. 21:18-1... loquat1 8 y 971
        
        youre blind. im doin all that. Matthew 3:9-1... trapper/kcmo 8 y 937
        
        Jesus is our Tree of Life. If we eat of His fruit... refreshed 8 y 1,014
        
        its not a mystery to me. Mark 4:11 And he said... trapper/kcmo 8 y 958
        
        I love your dad. A man after my own heart. ... loquat1 8 y 1,000
        
        No doubt, you and my dad could have some good conv... vektek 8 y 1,008
- Thanks for letting us know what you believe Loquat... refreshed 8 y 1,030
  - he didnt tell us what he believes, that was a wri... trapper/kcmo 8 y 1,002
    - Some baptist denominations believe they are foreve... refreshed 8 y 1,031
    - I think you're confusing systematic arrangem... loquat1 8 y 1,010
  - Happy to oblige sis. There's no great detail... loquat1 8 y 1,482

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